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There's that Microsoft UX we know and love!

by xd1936 1y ago

esbeeb 1y ago
People complain about how they hate to use the command line in Linux. But they don't similarly complain about these ultra obscure, ugly commands. When Microsoft necessitates commands, somehow it's different.
- mcintyre1994 1y ago
  You're not supposed to do this, this is to get around a restriction on installing Windows 11 on certain hardware. If your computer is supported and you install it the way Microsoft wants you to, then you won't be typing any commands anywhere.
  - mikkupikku 1y ago
    > You're not supposed to do this, Clearly. You're not supposed to own your computer, you're supposed to be a docile loyal rentoid.
  - greensoap 1y ago
    Generally curious, I don't see anything about hardware. Isn't this is about making a login that doesn't require you to login to MS's cloud. Also, what HW restriction does Microsoft want? Why do they care?
    - mcintyre1994 1y ago
      Windows 11 requires TPM 2.0, that's the actual reason a massive number of PCs can't update to it. There's apparently some way you can hack around that and install it. I assumed that's what these videos were about. But from the reddit post it looks like it's talking about both that and the account login issue which I wasn't familiar with. > including how to install Windows 11 without logging into a Microsoft account and how to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware.
    - Brett_Riverboat 1y ago
      Yes this is about a local login, it has nothing to do with hardware.
  - 4ggr0 1y ago
    > If your computer is supported That's not really the use-case for this. It's not possible anymore to use Windows with a local account (for a long time), the official UI only lets you login with a Microsoft Account. These commands are not used to install Windows on an unsupported PC, they're being used to create a local-only account. I for one still got a Windows boot partition next to my Linux, but I refuse to create an account for it. The only way I can install Windows on my supported PC with a local account is by using these commands. You used to be able to just press a small button. Then you had to disconnect the LAN cable and not connect a WLAN to create a local account. Then you had to open the Commandline and execute a single command. Now we're at the point where you have to execute multiple commands. If they actually manage to make it impossible to use Windows local-only, that will truly be the nail in the coffin for me. Currently use Windows to play games which aren't supported on Linux, but this will turn into a hate_for_online_forcing > appreciation_for_kernel_level_anticheat_shitgames.
- antisthenes 1y ago
  You didn't have to use to do this to your OS when Windows was still good. It's only the absolute shitfest that Win 10/11 ended up being that you have to conjure 300 arcane powershell commands just to get the OS to resemble a productive environment.
  - broast 1y ago
    I think every single Windows release has necessitated some registry hacks to bring back useful features from the previous version
    - antisthenes 1y ago
      Yes, but more and more every version. Especially true since they ended the service pack model. Continuous updates and hostile feature pushing is absolute cancer.
- nonethewiser 1y ago
  Do people complain about that? Like, life long windows/mac users who aren't interested in linux I guess? I always thought people loved being able to do everything from the command line.
- dylan604 1y ago
  > People complain about how they hate to use the command line in Linux They do? How else does one use Linux if not via CLI? You mean those kiddies that like GNOME/KDE? pfffft, they're not "using" Linux. They're just using Linux to run other apps no different than using a ChromeBook
  - eighthourblink 1y ago
    hmmm, news to me. i thought i used Linux all these years, but i guess i dont.
  - 1718627440 1y ago
    Unless you are somehow manually issuing syscalls, you aren't "using" Linux either. I guess you mostly use GNU/Linux.
    - imiric 1y ago
      ... Or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
      - samgranieri 1y ago
        Or GNU / Systemd / Linux
- vpShane 1y ago
  I learned bash and then needed to use powershell once later down the road; that was.. that was bad. Not bad for me, was actually great for me because now I just main Linux; but powershell, while I get it... don't do that to people.
larrik 1y ago
"Linux is too hard for people"
- Yeul 1y ago
  Modifying Windows is something I've been doing for decades. Yes it is infinitely easier than learning a new OS.
  - allarm 1y ago
    Doing a thing that you already know is definitely easier than learning a new thing that’s for sure.

There's that Microsoft UX we know and love!

by xd1936 1y ago

There's that Microsoft UX we know and love!

People complain about how they hate to use the command line in Linux. But they don't similarly complain about these ultra obscure, ugly commands. When Microsoft necessitates commands, somehow it's different.

mcintyre1994 1y ago
You're not supposed to do this, this is to get around a restriction on installing Windows 11 on certain hardware. If your computer is supported and you install it the way Microsoft wants you to, then you won't be typing any commands anywhere.
- mikkupikku 1y ago
  > You're not supposed to do this, Clearly. You're not supposed to own your computer, you're supposed to be a docile loyal rentoid.
- greensoap 1y ago
  Generally curious, I don't see anything about hardware. Isn't this is about making a login that doesn't require you to login to MS's cloud. Also, what HW restriction does Microsoft want? Why do they care?
  - mcintyre1994 1y ago
    Windows 11 requires TPM 2.0, that's the actual reason a massive number of PCs can't update to it. There's apparently some way you can hack around that and install it. I assumed that's what these videos were about. But from the reddit post it looks like it's talking about both that and the account login issue which I wasn't familiar with. > including how to install Windows 11 without logging into a Microsoft account and how to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware.
  - Brett_Riverboat 1y ago
    Yes this is about a local login, it has nothing to do with hardware.
- 4ggr0 1y ago
  > If your computer is supported That's not really the use-case for this. It's not possible anymore to use Windows with a local account (for a long time), the official UI only lets you login with a Microsoft Account. These commands are not used to install Windows on an unsupported PC, they're being used to create a local-only account. I for one still got a Windows boot partition next to my Linux, but I refuse to create an account for it. The only way I can install Windows on my supported PC with a local account is by using these commands. You used to be able to just press a small button. Then you had to disconnect the LAN cable and not connect a WLAN to create a local account. Then you had to open the Commandline and execute a single command. Now we're at the point where you have to execute multiple commands. If they actually manage to make it impossible to use Windows local-only, that will truly be the nail in the coffin for me. Currently use Windows to play games which aren't supported on Linux, but this will turn into a hate_for_online_forcing > appreciation_for_kernel_level_anticheat_shitgames.
antisthenes 1y ago
You didn't have to use to do this to your OS when Windows was still good. It's only the absolute shitfest that Win 10/11 ended up being that you have to conjure 300 arcane powershell commands just to get the OS to resemble a productive environment.
- broast 1y ago
  I think every single Windows release has necessitated some registry hacks to bring back useful features from the previous version
  - antisthenes 1y ago
    Yes, but more and more every version. Especially true since they ended the service pack model. Continuous updates and hostile feature pushing is absolute cancer.
nonethewiser 1y ago
Do people complain about that? Like, life long windows/mac users who aren't interested in linux I guess? I always thought people loved being able to do everything from the command line.
dylan604 1y ago
> People complain about how they hate to use the command line in Linux They do? How else does one use Linux if not via CLI? You mean those kiddies that like GNOME/KDE? pfffft, they're not "using" Linux. They're just using Linux to run other apps no different than using a ChromeBook
- eighthourblink 1y ago
  hmmm, news to me. i thought i used Linux all these years, but i guess i dont.
- 1718627440 1y ago
  Unless you are somehow manually issuing syscalls, you aren't "using" Linux either. I guess you mostly use GNU/Linux.
  - imiric 1y ago
    ... Or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
    - samgranieri 1y ago
      Or GNU / Systemd / Linux
vpShane 1y ago
I learned bash and then needed to use powershell once later down the road; that was.. that was bad. Not bad for me, was actually great for me because now I just main Linux; but powershell, while I get it... don't do that to people.

larrik 1y ago

"Linux is too hard for people"

Yeul 1y ago
Modifying Windows is something I've been doing for decades. Yes it is infinitely easier than learning a new OS.
- allarm 1y ago
  Doing a thing that you already know is definitely easier than learning a new thing that’s for sure.