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customer: hello, I want to buy a piano please yamaha: sure, here you go customer: great, thanks! lol, I also need a motorcycle. Do you know where I can buy a

customer: hello, I want to buy a piano please yamaha: sure, here you go customer: great, thanks! lol, I also need a motorcycle. Do you know where I can buy a good one? yamaha: you're not gonna believe this...

sparky_z 1y ago
Completely separate companies, both called Yamaha. One was spun off from the other, but I don't think there was ever a time when the same company sold both. (Basically, the musical instrument company was redirected to making war materiel during WWII. After the war, they didn't want to just throw away all of their new industrial capacity so they spun off a company to make use of all their new equipment and expertise and then went back to making instruments.)
- tessierashpool9 1y ago
  The OG Yamaha produced a motorcycle in 1954, the YA-1. That success then led to the spin off. (fun fact: the motorcycle Triumph and the undergarment Triumph are two entirely different companies that just happen to share the same name)
  - alterom 1y ago
    Triumph is also a garment brand? Never heard of it.
    - pegasus 1y ago
      I had no idea you've never heard of it. Thanks for keeping us informed.
      - alterom 1y ago
        >I had no idea you've never heard of it. Thanks for keeping us informed. I see. In that case, you'll appreciate the fact that the Three Musketeers chocolate bar bears no relationship to Alexander Dumas, the author of the famed book series featuring D'Artagnan and three musketeers. You might also be interested to learn that Zenit launch vehicles are not made by the organization that produces Zenit optics and cameras. Most crucially, Lucky grocery store chain in California turns out to be completely different from the Korean Lucky chemical products and electronics conglomerate (known as "Lucky GoldStar" after merging its chem and electronics wings, and, currently, "LG"). The more you know!
    - smcnally 1y ago
      It’s also a Wonder Dog, a Canadian power trio not featuring Neal Peart, and a moment when we shouldn’t evacuate the Death Star.
      - thunky 1y ago
        > Wonder Dog I think you meant Insult Comic Dog.
    - reactordev 1y ago
      I guess we were too good at Triumphing…
  - rzzzt 1y ago
    A motorcycle named Norton Commander also exists, and Nokia* sold winter bicycle tires with studs on them so they would grip better on ice and snow.
    - blacklion 1y ago
      Nokian studded tires for bicycles are (were?) the best! Rode many-many kilometers at winter with them!
    - kilpikaarna 1y ago
      Not sure about the meaning of your asterisk, but the Nokian Tyres corporation is not related to Nokia the telecoms co, other than being founded in the same town. Nokia did manufacture rubber boots though, before they spun off the footwear division in 1990 and went all in on electronics.
      - rzzzt 1y ago
        The company's history page says they were part of the merger in 1967 that created "Big Nokia": https://company.nokiantyres.com/about-us/history/#:~:text=1967%C2%A0Nokia%20Corporation%20established%20%2D%20Rubber%2C%20Cable%20and%20Paper%20Divisions https://company.nokiantyres.com/about-us/history/#:~:text=19... This changed in 1988 with the formation of an LLC, in 1995 they went public and in 2003 shares still held by the parent company were sold off to Bridgestone.
- Gormo 1y ago
  Although the Yamaha that makes music and audio products is the same Yamaha that makes golf clubs (https://global.golf.yamaha.com/en/ https://global.golf.yamaha.com/en/) and industrial equipment (https://www.yamahafinetech.co.jp/en/ https://www.yamahafinetech.co.jp/en/).
- reactordev 1y ago
  Same company They may have “different legal entities” but it’s the same. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Corporation
  - sparky_z 1y ago
    Yeah, that's one of them. Here's the other: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Motor_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Motor_Company It even says in your link "The former motorcycle division was established in 1955 as Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd., which started as an affiliated company but has been spun-off as its own independent company. "
- ants_everywhere 1y ago
  I didn't realize when I was a kid that the Yamaha music company came first. I remember being confused when looking at high end saxophones that one was made by an old French company (that made sense, France makes many fine luxury goods including instruments) and the other was (in my mind) made by a motorcycle company. How could a motorcycle company possibly have compiled the expertise to make high end musical instruments when most musical instrument companies were chasing the low end of the market at the time? But Yamaha music (1887) was started only 2 years after Selmer (1885). They got their start making reed organs. Reed organs (1) are technical, (2) make sound with reeds, and (3) are luxury items. So their expertise in sax (a reed instrument) and synthesizers (technical keyboard instruments) makes a ton of sense.
  - duznad 1y ago
    Day Start proekror proom
cisophrene 1y ago
I don't think Yamaha Motor is producing any large trucks. They do a lot of things but mostly motorcycles, atv, boat engine, even car engines but not the whole car. Also, you should note that Yamaha Corporation, the musical instrument maker and Yamaha Motor are now 2 distinct independent companies, even if were originally part of the same group.
- coldtea 1y ago
  They are independent yes, but originally the motor company was an affiliate spin-off. They do have an agreement and share the same logo, and Yamaha Corporation has some shares in the Motor one tho.
  - aatd86 1y ago
    a former keiretsu?
    - actionfromafar 1y ago
      Former, current, reformed keiretsu?
- prmoustache 1y ago
  > but not the whole car They actually made at least one model, of which only 3 prototypes were built before the project was cancelled due to the economic situation at the time: the Yamaha OX99-11 supercar was using a detuned version of their formula one v12 engine when they switched to v10. I guess they had built to many of them?
somat 1y ago
Apparently they also make network switches. I guess it is in support of their computerized audio equipment. but I was a bit surprised when they showed up in a search result. https://usa.yamaha.com/products/proaudio/network_switches/index.html https://usa.yamaha.com/products/proaudio/network_switches/in... They have the technical capability to design one, but on the surface it is enough outside their core product line that I wonder if it is a oem rebadge.
- bobson381 1y ago
  Huh, thanks for sharing. Funny to see the switches in the same color scheme as some of their receivers.
- bayindirh 1y ago
  They claim that they're developing routers since 1995 and they're used widely in domestic Japan (SME and SOHO). Looks like switches came in 2011 and there's some secret sauce which makes them autoconfigure each-other to reduce networking setup. It might not be a standard OEM stuff. Citing the page: > Yamaha entered the router business in 1995, and has grown to hold a significant share of Japan’s small to medium enterprise and SOHO network market. Yamaha gigabit L2 switches that could be linked to Yamaha routers/firewalls were introduced in 2011, with features that significantly reduced the network setup, maintenance, and management workload.
- conradfr 1y ago
  They make Dante licenced products.
jurip 1y ago
I love Yamaha Motor using the tuning forks as their logo. It's a proper beautiful old-timey logo (well, from 1967, apparently, but anyway) and it's just so weird seeing them on a motorcycle. https://www.yamaha.com/en/about/history/logo/ https://www.yamaha.com/en/about/history/logo/
- Shadowmist 1y ago
  Just pretend it is the thing that hold the front wheel.
  - GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
    Coincidentally also called a fork/forks :)
ErroneousBosh 1y ago
See also Hitachi ;-) Customer: "So, I need some huge IGBTs for an electric train motor, I need a 44-tonne excavator to lift the train, I need a new stereo to listen to while I fix it, and I need an, uhm, 'personal massager' to relax afterwards" Sales guy: "Here's our catalogue, page 40, page 32, page 108, and page 7. Let me know what colours you want."
drcongo 1y ago
Wait till you find out about Mitsubishi.
- temp0826 1y ago
  I remember being bewildered their diversity as a teenager, and then even more so when I found out that MUFG actually backed my bank at the time.
HPsquared 1y ago
"We build things that make noise."

sparky_z 1y ago

Completely separate companies, both called Yamaha. One was spun off from the other, but I don't think there was ever a time when the same company sold both. (Basically, the musical instrument company was redirected to making war materiel during WWII. After the war, they didn't want to just throw away all of their new industrial capacity so they spun off a company to make use of all their new equipment and expertise and then went back to making instruments.)

tessierashpool9 1y ago
The OG Yamaha produced a motorcycle in 1954, the YA-1. That success then led to the spin off. (fun fact: the motorcycle Triumph and the undergarment Triumph are two entirely different companies that just happen to share the same name)
- alterom 1y ago
  Triumph is also a garment brand? Never heard of it.
  - pegasus 1y ago
    I had no idea you've never heard of it. Thanks for keeping us informed.
    - alterom 1y ago
      >I had no idea you've never heard of it. Thanks for keeping us informed. I see. In that case, you'll appreciate the fact that the Three Musketeers chocolate bar bears no relationship to Alexander Dumas, the author of the famed book series featuring D'Artagnan and three musketeers. You might also be interested to learn that Zenit launch vehicles are not made by the organization that produces Zenit optics and cameras. Most crucially, Lucky grocery store chain in California turns out to be completely different from the Korean Lucky chemical products and electronics conglomerate (known as "Lucky GoldStar" after merging its chem and electronics wings, and, currently, "LG"). The more you know!
  - smcnally 1y ago
    It’s also a Wonder Dog, a Canadian power trio not featuring Neal Peart, and a moment when we shouldn’t evacuate the Death Star.
    - thunky 1y ago
      > Wonder Dog I think you meant Insult Comic Dog.
  - reactordev 1y ago
    I guess we were too good at Triumphing…
- rzzzt 1y ago
  A motorcycle named Norton Commander also exists, and Nokia* sold winter bicycle tires with studs on them so they would grip better on ice and snow.
  - blacklion 1y ago
    Nokian studded tires for bicycles are (were?) the best! Rode many-many kilometers at winter with them!
  - kilpikaarna 1y ago
    Not sure about the meaning of your asterisk, but the Nokian Tyres corporation is not related to Nokia the telecoms co, other than being founded in the same town. Nokia did manufacture rubber boots though, before they spun off the footwear division in 1990 and went all in on electronics.
    - rzzzt 1y ago
      The company's history page says they were part of the merger in 1967 that created "Big Nokia": https://company.nokiantyres.com/about-us/history/#:~:text=1967%C2%A0Nokia%20Corporation%20established%20%2D%20Rubber%2C%20Cable%20and%20Paper%20Divisions https://company.nokiantyres.com/about-us/history/#:~:text=19... This changed in 1988 with the formation of an LLC, in 1995 they went public and in 2003 shares still held by the parent company were sold off to Bridgestone.
Gormo 1y ago
Although the Yamaha that makes music and audio products is the same Yamaha that makes golf clubs (https://global.golf.yamaha.com/en/ https://global.golf.yamaha.com/en/) and industrial equipment (https://www.yamahafinetech.co.jp/en/ https://www.yamahafinetech.co.jp/en/).
reactordev 1y ago
Same company They may have “different legal entities” but it’s the same. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Corporation
- sparky_z 1y ago
  Yeah, that's one of them. Here's the other: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Motor_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Motor_Company It even says in your link "The former motorcycle division was established in 1955 as Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd., which started as an affiliated company but has been spun-off as its own independent company. "
ants_everywhere 1y ago
I didn't realize when I was a kid that the Yamaha music company came first. I remember being confused when looking at high end saxophones that one was made by an old French company (that made sense, France makes many fine luxury goods including instruments) and the other was (in my mind) made by a motorcycle company. How could a motorcycle company possibly have compiled the expertise to make high end musical instruments when most musical instrument companies were chasing the low end of the market at the time? But Yamaha music (1887) was started only 2 years after Selmer (1885). They got their start making reed organs. Reed organs (1) are technical, (2) make sound with reeds, and (3) are luxury items. So their expertise in sax (a reed instrument) and synthesizers (technical keyboard instruments) makes a ton of sense.
- duznad 1y ago
  Day Start proekror proom

cisophrene 1y ago

I don't think Yamaha Motor is producing any large trucks. They do a lot of things but mostly motorcycles, atv, boat engine, even car engines but not the whole car. Also, you should note that Yamaha Corporation, the musical instrument maker and Yamaha Motor are now 2 distinct independent companies, even if were originally part of the same group.

coldtea 1y ago
They are independent yes, but originally the motor company was an affiliate spin-off. They do have an agreement and share the same logo, and Yamaha Corporation has some shares in the Motor one tho.
- aatd86 1y ago
  a former keiretsu?
  - actionfromafar 1y ago
    Former, current, reformed keiretsu?
prmoustache 1y ago
> but not the whole car They actually made at least one model, of which only 3 prototypes were built before the project was cancelled due to the economic situation at the time: the Yamaha OX99-11 supercar was using a detuned version of their formula one v12 engine when they switched to v10. I guess they had built to many of them?

somat 1y ago

Apparently they also make network switches. I guess it is in support of their computerized audio equipment. but I was a bit surprised when they showed up in a search result. https://usa.yamaha.com/products/proaudio/network_switches/index.html https://usa.yamaha.com/products/proaudio/network_switches/in... They have the technical capability to design one, but on the surface it is enough outside their core product line that I wonder if it is a oem rebadge.

bobson381 1y ago
Huh, thanks for sharing. Funny to see the switches in the same color scheme as some of their receivers.
bayindirh 1y ago
They claim that they're developing routers since 1995 and they're used widely in domestic Japan (SME and SOHO). Looks like switches came in 2011 and there's some secret sauce which makes them autoconfigure each-other to reduce networking setup. It might not be a standard OEM stuff. Citing the page: > Yamaha entered the router business in 1995, and has grown to hold a significant share of Japan’s small to medium enterprise and SOHO network market. Yamaha gigabit L2 switches that could be linked to Yamaha routers/firewalls were introduced in 2011, with features that significantly reduced the network setup, maintenance, and management workload.
conradfr 1y ago
They make Dante licenced products.

jurip 1y ago

I love Yamaha Motor using the tuning forks as their logo. It's a proper beautiful old-timey logo (well, from 1967, apparently, but anyway) and it's just so weird seeing them on a motorcycle. https://www.yamaha.com/en/about/history/logo/ https://www.yamaha.com/en/about/history/logo/

Shadowmist 1y ago
Just pretend it is the thing that hold the front wheel.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
  Coincidentally also called a fork/forks :)

ErroneousBosh 1y ago

See also Hitachi ;-) Customer: "So, I need some huge IGBTs for an electric train motor, I need a 44-tonne excavator to lift the train, I need a new stereo to listen to while I fix it, and I need an, uhm, 'personal massager' to relax afterwards" Sales guy: "Here's our catalogue, page 40, page 32, page 108, and page 7. Let me know what colours you want."

drcongo 1y ago

Wait till you find out about Mitsubishi.

temp0826 1y ago
I remember being bewildered their diversity as a teenager, and then even more so when I found out that MUFG actually backed my bank at the time.

HPsquared 1y ago

"We build things that make noise."