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- seviu 1y agoI really want this but I can’t justify such a machine just for watching YouTube. I cannot even give it to my kids since I don’t have multiple accounts with it. Kind of sad that the most interesting device Apple has will never show its true potential due to their greed.
- ErneX 1y agoFor watching YouTube you just need the cheapest iPad not a Pro.
- mwexler 1y agoOr an even cheaper android tablet.
- seviu 1y agoA generalization I would say I really dig that Oled screen
- qingcharles 1y agoI bought an $80 8th Gen iPad off eBay and it runs 26 great and works perfectly for watching brain-rot and doing my Duolingos.
- dylan604 1y agoPeople keep saying their iPad is a YT consumption device, but without ad blocking, how do you stay sane? I'm assuming if you're consuming that much YT content you've moved to a premium account or something? I don't use my tablet primarily for YT content, so it's rather jolting when I click a link somewhere and see the hell that is unblocked YT
- ako 1y agoYes, YouTube premium, use it a lot to practice my guitar playing by playing along YouTube music videos with chords displayed.
- akdev1l 1y ago> I'm assuming if you're consuming that much YT content you've moved to a premium account or something? Yes
- Krssst 1y agoEven with YT Premium, sponsor announcements are still an annoyance. Firefox with SponsorBlock helps with that, not sure if that's usable on iPad.
- dangus 1y agoIt is not. However, the YouTube Labs “Jump Ahead” feature is basically the same thing. When a sponsor segment starts, double tap the right side of your screen and a “jump ahead” button will usually appear (it’s algorithmic based on user viewing patterns). It skips the ad just about every time. You’ll have to have Premium and enable this manually. And it might go away, it’s experimental. But also, iSponsorBlockTV is a great project. But it only works on Apple TV and other streaming TV YouTube apps.
- sotix 1y agoSponsorBlock is on iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sponsorblock-for-safari/id1573461917 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sponsorblock-for-safari/id1573...
- Terretta 1y ago> I cannot even give it to my kids since I don’t have multiple accounts with it. You can, but it's not advertised this way: https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/shared-ipad-overview-dep9a34c2ba2/web https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/shared-ipad-overv... There are ways to supervise besides get into a full MDM: https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-device-supervision-dep1d89f0bff/web https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-device-supe...
- sylens 1y agoI have a 2018 iPad Pro that is due for replacement but I cannot bring myself to spend the money on a new iPad. No matter how much I think I'll use it, it becomes a web browsing and YouTube machine on the couch. It's a shame because I think the hardware design is quite good, but the OS itself is so limiting, even with the "improvements" iPadOS 26 introduced.
- bombcar 1y agoEvery iPad I've bought was going to be "the one where I find a use case that uses it" but every time it ends up being a YouTube machine.
- nkotov 1y agoSame but just entertainment device. I still don't understand where the iPad Pro makes sense.
- coldtea 1y agoIt's great for image retouching and illustration, especially on the go. It's also very handy for running VSTs (well, AUs really) and jamming with keyboards or guitars (with something like iRig)
- bluescrn 1y agoiOS doesn't even make for a very good YouTube machine, you need uBlock Origin for that.
- zb3 1y agoDefinition of the most useless machine - doesn't fit in your pocket, has good specs but refuses to run anything not signed by Apple.. worst of both worlds.
- robinhood 1y agoFor you. Not for many other users who definitely do not agree with this statement. To me this will be the kind of computers I'll tell my parents to use as soon as their crappy laptops die. They do not need literally anything else: sending emails, write a few ones, check Youtube and browse the web. For this use case, it's the most useful machine. Never breaks, infinite battery, no support needed. And I hate Apple. So this says a lot.
- ErneX 1y agoThe iPads have become very capable for 3D and illustration, I think they are good also for music. I don’t have a use for the Pro model but I use my Air a lot.
- zb3 1y agoMy laptop folds and has a touchscreen too.. there are ones which support advanced pens - none of this requires the OS to be as locked as iOS.
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- pjmlp 1y agoGreat hardware spoiled by a toy OS.
- micromacrofoot 1y agothey very clearly don't want to cannibalize their macbook sales, lots of people still buying both
- raw_anon_1111 1y agoWhat doesn’t the OS do as of OS 26 that most ordinary people care about?
- dmitshur 1y agoA random recent example off the top of my head: view photos in AVIF format. It does work in Photos app, but not in Preview app nor in Messages app somehow. At least this the case on iOS 26 and so I suspect iPadOS 26 too. It works on macOS 26. Edit: I realize that ordinary people might not yet care about exporting to AVIF, but they may receive such photos from other people.
- fkyoureadthedoc 1y agoNo much imo. I feel more constrained by screen size than I do OS limitations
- poisonborz 1y ago"Ordinary people" wouldn't care about anything above even an M1 CPU. The post is about the iPad Pro. The target audience would care about having the software features that macOS has.
- raw_anon_1111 1y agoIm talking about the operating system.
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- omnibrain 1y agoThey will probably keep the other iPads at 60Hz displays in future. I don't need the other Pro features.
- alberth 1y agoI'm be curious to know the breakdown of Pro vs Air vs Base iPad sales. Because I have to imagine very few people buy the iPad Pro (and for those who do, what use case are they buying it for).
- criddell 1y agoI'm going to order one of these to replace my 2018 iPad Pro which is the computer I use the most. I'll spend around $2k and I want to get at least 5 years of use out of it. That will make it cost me a little more than $1 / day which, fortunately, I can afford.
- cyberpunk 1y agoWhat size you going for?
- criddell 1y ago13 w/ 512 GB + Pencil. I want the nano screen but that would require me to bump the storage to 1 TB and I don't need that. Instead, I'll get a paper-like screen protector. I've had good luck with those in the past. If the Smart Folio Keyboard was still available, I'd buy that too. It's not, so I'm going keyboard-less for now.
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- mark_l_watson 1y agoLooks wonderful but I have an old iPad Pro with an M1 and 16G memory and I already feel my old iPad Pro is powerful enough to run local LLMs, write books, use SSH/Mosh to my servers, etc. EDIT: oh, the prices are much lower now than what I paid 3+ hears ago, that’s nice.
- cheeze 1y agoYou're running local LLMs on an ipad?
- mark_l_watson 1y agoas someone else mentioned, lots of apps to run local models. I also wrote my own app, in Apple’s app store, that uses Apple’s system model.
- PoorlyNamed 1y agoThere are a number of apps that do this.
- ChrisArchitect 1y agoRelated: Apple M5 Chip https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45591799 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45591799
- overgard 1y agoI get the impression they're trying to market this to laptop users. I'm still very skeptical of iPads as a productivity device. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the OS, the app store and the model for selling apps. Apple's app store policies make it hard to sell expensive software (which most productivity apps are somewhat expensive), it also makes it hard to distribute free software (as in open source -- because someone has to pony up for a developer account and deal with the app store feedback), and the App-centric focus of the OS itself is a problem (most projects need to be file centric)
- SkyPuncher 1y agoMy sister in law has used an iPad as here primary compute device for school. Frankly, it works absolutely fine for her. 95% of her need is reading, email, and writing papers (in Google Drive).
- lostlogin 1y agoThis probably matches most users experience. It’s just that the remaining 5% makes you want to hurl the device out the window.
- monkmartinez 1y agoMy parents use their iPad(s) for 100% of their compute needs. At 70+ years old, they will tell you those needs are minimal. If you use one program at a time, do not need an actual file system, have no need to install software from a variety of places (Github, Vendor sites, etc), have no problem installing multiple "apps" that only work behind paywalls or not at all and you don't care about replacing a functional device whenever Apple obsoletes it... iOS is the best thing since sliced bread. If you need anything outside of iOS's limited list of abilities, its a trash operating system that has crippled amazing hardware.
- yjftsjthsd-h 1y ago> 95% of her need is reading, email, and writing papers Sure, it's great for that kind of (computationally) light work, but then what's the point of putting a monster like the M5 chip in it?
- GeekyBear 1y agoThe additional GPU performance will be very helpful for the upcoming Blender port to iPad. > The M5 chip is built on TSMC's N3P node and has a faster GPU that can deliver 1.6x more FPS in games, 20% faster multi-core CPU performance, and 1.7x quicker render times in Blender — all versus the M4. https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/apple-launches-new-14-inch-macbook-pro-with-m5-chip-boasts-2x-ssd-speeds-increased-gpu-performance-for-ai-over-m4-version https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/apple-launches...
- throw-10-13 1y agoPut a grown up OS on it and I’ll consider it.
- dmitshur 1y agoGlad to see that unlike last time with the M4 release, this time they released M5 in more devices than just the iPad Pro at the same time. That said, there’s still room for improvement: the MacBook Air and Mac mini weren’t updated yet.
- UltraSane 1y agoiPad OS is very bad
- vessenes 1y agoFor the haters here - Apple sells roughly 2x as many iPads as Macs (including MacBooks). Roughly as many iPad Pros as laptops. I've cycled through using an iPad Pro as my main device on and off over the years - particularly the cellular modem has been a draw. For coding, they're terrible, as they are for longer form writing. I've ultimately shrunk down to the small size and use it as a kindle/gaming replacement. I think with a foldable iPhone I'd probably skip buying one. All that said there's a large market for them. I use mine enough that every two cycles I update just for battery reasons.
- bertili 1y agoI didn't believe this at first, but it seems valid. Apple earnings on Mac and iPads are in the same ballpark and if iPads cost half of a Mac its indeed a 2x. https://www.macrumors.com/2025/05/01/apple-2q-2025-earnings/ https://www.macrumors.com/2025/05/01/apple-2q-2025-earnings/
- zeroq 1y agoTo me it makes a lot of sense. iPads have way more common with phones than laptops. They are more prone to damage and many people treat them like fashion accessories, promptly buying new devices upon launch even if the old one is perfectly fine.
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- tristor 1y agoI mean, that makes sense given what the "haters" are saying, and indeed what you yourself admit. If this is just a device for passive consumption of entertainment, then ultimately it's a consumer-facing use case, and there are MANY MANY MANY more consumers than there are creators, whether that creation is a photo or a line of code. So of course more devices are sold, because you need a laptop (due to mostly software, rather than hardware reasons) to do most forms of creativity, from writing code to editing photos.
- jmull 1y agoI’m waiting for them to put macos on the ipads (or touch/pencil on the macbooks).
- tristor 1y agoI have never figured out what the point of a tablet is, except for entertainment. I keep wanting to buy an iPad every time a new one comes out, yet I've never bought one, and keep failing to see any point to it. I have a reMarkable device, which is a sort of tablet, but I use it exclusively for taking notes by hand in meetings, which is basically what it is designed for. I have a Kindle, which is kind of like a tablet, and I use it exclusively for reading which is what it is designed for. An iPad feels like it should replace both, but when I actually analyze it, it cannot replace either one. What really are tablets for other than being a passive entertainment consumption device?
- pretext-1 1y agoI travel a lot for work and don’t want to bring a second MacBook Pro. iPad works well in the plane for watching movies, MacBook not so much, at least not in Economy class. Can’t use my work computer for personal stuff anyway unfortunately. Also can’t download Netflix content offline on desktop. Another use case is in the kitchen. Recipes, YouTube, FaceTime, etc. I use my iPad Pro in the kitchen every day when I’m at home. Easy to clean up. Using a MacBook while cooking will make it gross very fast.
- DamnInteresting 1y agoApart from watching videos, I use mine for making music (podcast scoring) and for drawing (formal illustrations, doodling, and sketching out designs). There are also a few games that I feel play best on an iPad, such as Balatro.
- pjmlp 1y agoOn Android, with Samsung Dex, Xiomi HyperOS, Huawei HarmonyOS Next 6, Surface like Windows devices, tablets a good laptop replacement as travel devices. Pity that Apple doesn't agree for iPad.
- dcreater 1y agoAt this point, I think its just very irresponsible of Apple putting these kind of chips in the iPad and then given 99% of the users no way to actually harness that power. Occupy TSMC line time and cause global geopolitical struggles for what??
- tempodox 1y agoSo they can ruin this beautiful hardware with shitty and locked down software. For most people, games are the only kind of software that comes close to actually utilizing all this power, but dedicated game consoles are cheaper. So what’s the point any more?
- cedws 1y agoI think Apple hardware must be incredibly underutilised across the board. Every new generation of iPhone or MacBook they boast about lofty performance gains, but who is actually complaining about their iPhone not being fast enough? Nobody I know pushes their iPhone so hard it starts to lag. It's not like you can really do anything computationally heavy on your phone besides games, but people mostly play simplistic 2D games on iOS anyway.
- leakycap 1y agoHaving performance available when you need it is the alternative to waiting. Even a simplistic 2D game loads data, runs routines, and while the person is doing that they expect the phone to stay connected to a network, keep up with notifications... you act like Apple is doing something bad. Intel/Chromebooks still are being sold in the USA at Best Buy with the Celeron N4000-series and Pentium-4200 series chips if you prefer to have zero performance overhead on your devices.
- bottlepalm 1y agoSomehow the most powerful capable chips hardware wise, are at the same time the least capable software wise. I thought Apple was supposed to be the 'bicycle for the mind', what happened?
- gsibble 1y agoThis obviously isn't a tablet meant for people who own M4/M2 iPads to upgrade. You wouldn't be getting your money's worth (although the tandem OLED on the M4 is stunning). This is just a minor update for anyone with an older iPad/iPad Pro in case they want to upgrade. Many of the people here complaining don't seem to understand they are not the target market. Also, I love using my iPad as a social media / YouTube content consumption device. It's a fantastic experience. I also use it for a lot of home control (mostly audio but also lighting). It sure is an expensive device but it lasts forever and I get my money's worth. Oh, and Lightroom on it is fantastic!
- Insanity 1y agoI currently have an m1 iPad pro, and I use it daily. Do I get the pro performance out of it? Probably not. I might still upgrade to the m5 for the better display though. These are my use-cases FWIW: - Goodnotes w/ the apple pen during work - YouTube during dinner - Kindle App for technical books (and regular Kindle device for fiction) - Browsing the internet - Streaming games with Xbox streaming I travel for work one week per month-ish, and I don't take a personal laptop anymore since getting my iPad. Now.. do I really _need_ to upgrade? Probably not, my M1 still runs fine. Decisions Decisions :)
- steelbrain 1y agoUnrelated to the discussion at hand but information for people that game stream on their Apple Devices: If you experience unexplained stuttering, change the 5ghz wifi channel to 149.
- bottlepalm 1y agoThese use cases are so sad for a device with so much power. Look what Apple has reduced us to.
- leakycap 1y agoLife's most precious resource is time. A newer device is often much faster at a person's current routines. Why would you want a fast device to do harder things? Fast alone is worth it.
- max51 1y agobecause if they allowed you to boot linux/macos/windows and dock it to get a full desktop experience, it could replace laptops and even desktop PC for most people. It legit has the cpu power of a >2k$ gaming PC. For the average person buying the ipad pro, the ipad will be the fastest computer in the house, by a very very wide margin.
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- medlazik 1y agoI don't understand why there isn't a market for 15"+ iPads. 13" is just too small for home use and too heavy for using it without a stand, might as well make it much bigger
- prmoustache 1y agoWhat is the use case for an iPad Pro vs the regular iPad or the iPad Air that I didn't knew even existed? I have the feeling that everything one could do with the Pro could be done as well with the less expensive models. Apart from the handful of travel youtubers that might want to edit and render their videos in an airport terminal I think the use cases would be very niche. Yet a lot of people seem to prefer it over the other variants, I guess just because it exists and it is at the top of the line?
- gyomu 1y agoAs a photographer, the OLED screen is truly gorgeous and it is kind of ironic that it is the best display available on any Apple device (the blooming on miniLED is pretty horrendous, and it’s beyond me how anyone deemed it a viable technology to ship in products aimed at professional visual artists/designers).
- _ph_ 1y agoYes, I got the 13" M4 Pro mostly because of the display. I use the iPad Pro as my photo album and its just fantastic for that. The M4 flies of course. Thanks to more and more multi-windowed support on iPad OS it gets more useful for light tasks.
- pretext-1 1y agoAll my other devices have 120Hz and switching from any of these to my 5 year old 60Hz iPad Pro gives me physical pain. If the iPad Air had 120Hz I would probably buy that right now. I think I’ll wait for another year though as I’m pretty sure the next iPad Air generation will have 120Hz, now that the non-Pro iPhone has it as well. I know not everyone is as sensitive to this as I am, so I recommend going to the store and trying both the Air and the Pro. If you’re like me you will notice the difference immediately.
- prmoustache 1y agoI think I never had a screen with more than 60Hz and 1080p. Ignorance is bliss I guess as I don't miss something I never experienced.
- amelius 1y agoLocked down by nanny Apple, therefore a toy.
- fkyoureadthedoc 1y agoAny tablet or tablet mode laptop I've used on windows is fucking miserable, so I've always assumed it was more a user experience thing rather than some plot to artificially limit neckbeards
- wpm 1y agoWindows is miserable on the desktop too so idk Wanting to run whatever I want is not a “neck beard” thing. The only reason normies don’t care is because they don’t understand.
- medhir 1y agowould buy this in a heartbeat if I could run macOS… it’s such a shame iPad hardware has been so held back by Apple’s lackluster software strategy for this long
- pedalpete 1y agoIs it just me, or does anyone else notice the contrast on this page, as well as the Macbook page almost hides the devices themselves for most of the images? Maybe it's just my old eyes, but black background, black trim, dark grey device with dark grey keyboard. What are they selling here?
- jerrygoyal 1y agoyet another year with no update to iPad Mini.
- dramm 1y agoApple talking about big leaps in AI anything is real Fonzi taking a big leap over the shark stuff.
- master_crab 1y agoiPad with a terminal like WebSSH or access to Code Server is amongst the best combinations of mobility and developer tooling.