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> "Desert wasteland" teems with life, just maybe not the kind that most people care about. As somebody who lives in the Southwest US, thank you. There are so m
by ericbarrett 1y ago
> "Desert wasteland" teems with life, just maybe not the kind that most people care about.
As somebody who lives in the Southwest US, thank you. There are so many people on HN who think the desert is just Martian dunes to be paved over like a Civ tile.
Just in the hills around me there are 30 species of plant, century-old trees, snakes, lizards, horny toads, bobcats, coyotes, hare, quail, multitudes of ants, the incredible red velvet mite, roadrunners (yes they’re real), flies, wasps, native bumblebees, mice, god it goes on and on. And the soil is encrusted, literally, with countless microbiota. In fact a single vehicle smashing it can damage that crust for years.
I know we need renewables, and yes, the Southwest is a great place for solar. But there is real ecological damage to some of the most pristine places left in America involved in developing unused land.
I take no position on the development which is under discussion here, or whether the cancellation was fair. I haven’t researched it, and probably never will. I’m just sick of the “it’s just desert, who cares, paint it with solar/oil fields/asphalt” attitude that’s everywhere.
- aeonfox 1y agoHard agree. Some of my favorite birding spots are in grasslands and wetlands sitting next to highways. Places that would be overlooked by most people.
- dbeardsl 1y agoThat’s fair, it’s not ok to pretend desert has no life worth protecting. However, there is a lot of it, and as far as impacted animals per acre, it’s got to be near the bottom. Thus of all the places to locate big solar projects, huge expanses of low life density flat land with lots have sun seems like it would minimize the harm.
- dalyons 1y agoYes, and deserts are just as susceptible to the effects of climate change as everywhere else. You have to build solar somewhere or they’re all doomed too.
- aeonfox 1y agoAs the article states, there's plenty of already disturbed land that can be used, instead of nature parks that harbor fragile ecosystems. Also what people call "desert" isn't, like, the Sahara. There are many kinds of arid and semi-arid landscapes that people tend to underestimate because they aren't really habitable by humans or suitable for growing agricultural crops. The kinds of landscapes I'm referring are highlighted on the Friends of Nevada Wilderness website: https://www.nevadawilderness.org/ https://www.nevadawilderness.org/ It's not a flat plane with a few rocks and a lone cactus on it. That's just the cartoon characterisation that springs to mind when we think "desert".
- Supermancho 1y ago> I’m just sick of the “it’s just desert, who cares, paint it with solar/oil fields/asphalt” attitude that’s everywhere. There is plentiful desert to expand upon and plenty of expansion coming due to ongoing climate impact. Desert fauna is not in danger, at any almost any rate.