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May i suggest some solutions? :-P -> https://endof10.org/ https://endof10.org/ (it has a map with people who can help install Linux) -> https://www.opensuse.o

May i suggest some solutions? :-P -> https://endof10.org/ https://endof10.org/ (it has a map with people who can help install Linux) -> https://www.opensuse.org/ https://www.opensuse.org/ (what i'm using on my PCs, works fine for the most part[0]) -> https://www.linuxmint.com/ https://www.linuxmint.com/ (people seem to like this) -> https://bazzite.gg/ https://bazzite.gg/ (seems to be popular with gamers) -> https://www.debian.org/ https://www.debian.org/ (almost everything is based on this :-P) [0] for the most part because nothing - not even macOS where Apple controls the entire stack from CPU up to the OS - is without problems. Though i'm doing weird stuff with my PC - on my laptop i just threw it in ~3 years ago and it has been working without issues since then

ramon156 1y ago
May I suggest you give fedora a go? It still feels like the most mature distro out there, but I can be biased
- subscribed 1y ago
  I used both Fedora and Ubuntu for years and couldn't point to the _better_ distribution. Maybe one thing I had with Fedora: I had to trail one major distribution behind, because going for the most recent releases always ended up hurting me. But that's just for work. I don't think I can move my gaming to Linux yet
  - Alupis 1y ago
    I've been using the latest Fedora full-time for over two years without issue, and have been doing nearly all my gaming on it as well. The only gaming that doesn't work are games that deliberately use anti-cheat that doesn't support anything but Windows (typically the games run great in single player or offline, but multiplayer refuses to work). Of my Steam catalog, over 90% just works, and a large amount of that now has native Linux support thanks to the Steam Deck. What particular issues were you experiencing? As a counter anecdote, on my Windows installation I routinely run into "WTF" moments, such as BitLocker randomly deciding I need to enter recovery codes, the constant nagware that is OneDrive and friends, plus when I search for the same binary exe I've launched a dozen times Windows still displays "web results" first - fooling me just about every time.
    - subscribed 1y ago
      Hey, many thanks for this, sorry I didn't notice this comment earlier. So, I have several of the games I play since forever (and will play some more), like Skyrim, but I can't play it without mods because it just looks bad (and I prefer slightly adjusted gameplay). I've seen ProtonDB entry on that and it looks half promising, half problematic. Maybe I'll dust off my old nvme for this? I _think_ I'll try going the Bazzite way - based on Fedora I actually like, reasonably sensible approach to security - and might as well stay IF they support Veracrypt well. And yeah, Windows deception is awful, thankfully most of it can be disabled (until the next sw update).
  - crote 1y ago
    Interestingly, I had the opposite experience. With Ubuntu I kept running into bugs which had already been fixed upstream, or which were caused either by Debian's or Ubuntu's patches. And even filing regular bug reports was basically impossible: the Ubuntu packagers will almost certainly ignore it, the Debian packagers aren't interested in bugs happening in mutated versions of outdated packages in their unstable repo, and the upstream maintainers aren't interested in bug reports for weirdly-patched old releases. After several attempts at getting bugs fixed (sometimes even sending complete patches) and getting no response for years I gave up on Ubuntu and switched to Fedora. Their policy is to ship the freshest upstream releases possible, with as few patches as possible. This means I can just directly file my bug reports at the upstream vendor, and a fix will usually land on my system fairly quickly. I do notice that I am slowly using more and more Flatpak desktop apps: why bother with the middleman when you can trivially get the latest release directly from the upstream vendor?
- badsectoracula 1y ago
  TBH if i decide to change OS again, i'll probably go with Gentoo because AFAIK it provides means to have custom patches for packages and i'd like to do things like, e.g., add some stuff in the file dialog for Gtk3. Though i'm not sure this is something most people would care about, so i didn't mention it (also i only have a vague idea that this is possible, i haven't actually tried it in practice).
  - Jach 1y ago
    I've been using Gentoo as my primary OS since 2007, along with gnome2 (now mate) as the desktop environment with the ancient compiz for fancy effects like wobbling windows and a desktop cube. Updates come pretty quickly. It's so nice having rolling releases, dist upgrades for other distros make me nervous and I've lost time to them -- and occasionally other software that certain distros decided to throw you into a curses terminal UI for configuration (or just mysteriously break and fail to install the package if you were using the desktop GUI). The custom patches thing is really nice and fairly straightforward. When you install a package its tarball gets saved in /var/cache/distfiles/ so you can just extract your package with the right version to a temp dir to work on. If you want to patch the package foo/bar you create a diff file /etc/portage/patches/foo/bar/patch-name (git format-patch can help, you just take the diff --git parts) and it gets auto-applied next time you build the package (or if it can't apply the diff, fails and tells you). I don't use this as often as I could, I only have a few patches at the moment (https://github.com/Jach/patches https://github.com/Jach/patches -- there's been a couple minor updates I should push), but it's pretty convenient to fix minor annoyances, take tiny fixes from upstream until they're fully released, or add custom features/text where you want. With overlays to get packages outside of the core distro tree, a lot of software is just available, and even when it's not, you usually have the build tools or can easily install them so building whatever else from source isn't an obstacle. (I do sometimes have to use debian/ubuntu/mint (mint is on my travel laptop that I only use when traveling) and it still gets me sometimes having to make sure build-essential and various -dev packages are installed to do anything.) One downside is that your glibc will likely be newer than a lot of other systems out there, so that creates obstacles to shipping binaries around. You can also create your own packages in an overlay fairly easily as well, or keep some old ones around that have lost their maintainers and get removed from the tree. There's also a somewhat annoying 'license' system (adding license names you accept to a configuration file) but with it the tooling can automatically fetch certain things for downloading (e.g. nvidia driver blobs) that some companies want people to get manually so they can harvest your data/force you to accept some EULA. I'm now remembering that 16 or 17 years ago, the last time I tried Fedora, I was testing it out by plugging in a flash drive (yay it auto mounted) but it failed to play an MP3 file and suggested I pay someone money to install codecs. It's left a sour impression on Fedora ever since, not to mention my lingering question why anyone would want a Red Hat derivative outside of a locked down office (and even then at my old BigCo job we devs got to use Ubuntu). For casual use I still think Mint is probably the best distro at the moment. I tend to recommend the mate desktop environment since it's what I like and am used to but it's a poor distro if you can't easily install any DE of choice on it.
brushfoot 1y ago
My main reasons for using Windows right now are: - Davinci Resolve - Adobe suite - AutoHotkey scripts, lots of them - Microsoft Office, mainly PowerPoint, Excel and Word for creating and interacting with other companies' docs. Libre/OpenOffice mangled them/were missing features I depend on - Issues with my laptop's Nvidia card (screen tearing etc.) last time I tried to switch, and rabbit holes that I don't have time for anymore (solopreneur) That said, I would love to switch back. I loved rofi [0] last time, for example. Can anyone speak to the above? What's the status of running Windows apps like Adobe, Resolve, Office, for instance? Or AutoHotkey or equivalent? 0: https://github.com/davatorium/rofi https://github.com/davatorium/rofi
- PhilippGille 1y ago
  Davinci Resolve has official support for Linux
  - NexRebular 1y ago
    ...and unofficial support for FreeBSD https://github.com/NapoleonWils0n/davinci-resolve-freebsd-jail https://github.com/NapoleonWils0n/davinci-resolve-freebsd-ja...
  - brushfoot 1y ago
    Oh wow, thanks for this. I had filed it under "Windows and Mac only" in my head for some reason. Now I see that it was originally Linux only!? Amazing that this free-to-download application supports Linux when Adobe doesn't. Or maybe not so amazing given their different approaches.
- badsectoracula 1y ago
  About AutoHotKey, you can do similar stuff as long as you are using X11 as there are various utilities for it, such as xdotool[0]. There is even an AutoHotKey-for-Linux project[1] (it also needs X11 - the author did try to port it to Wayland but gave up). For Wayland there are some alternatives like ydotool[2] (actually AFAIK since ydotool uses some daemon to inject events it works with anything, not just Wayland, but on the other hand it only provides a basic tiny subset of xdotool's commands) but the core protocol isn't particularly friendly to such automation. [0] https://github.com/jordansissel/xdotool https://github.com/jordansissel/xdotool [1] https://github.com/phil294/AHK_X11 https://github.com/phil294/AHK_X11 [2] https://github.com/ReimuNotMoe/ydotool https://github.com/ReimuNotMoe/ydotool
pkulak 1y ago
I would vote for Bluefin: https://projectbluefin.io/ https://projectbluefin.io/ It's very similar to Bazzite, which you listed, but not gamer focused. You get an easy install, auto updates (without reboots), and a bulletproof, immutable OS that is nearly impossible to break. If you want bling and tiling, Omarchy is the new hotness: https://omarchy.org/ https://omarchy.org/
- drbw 1y ago
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  - dimator 1y ago
    Out of the loop, why not?
    - sugarpimpdorsey 1y ago
      An open source developer (the creator of Ruby on Rails and Omarchy Linux) made a political comment someone didn't like. Now there is a concerted effort by a small group of terminally online histrionics to ruin his life and get all his projects cancelled. The comment was apparently made on his personal blog and not in any official capacity.
      - ColonelBlimp 1y ago
        As far as I know, this is the blog post that led to the backlash https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64
      - McGlockenshire 1y ago
        > made a political comment someone didn't like It should be noted that this specific framing ("it's just a disagreement," "someone didn't like it," "it's nothing big") is used by the people that, instead, like the "comment." It's an extremely common pattern. So is one of the words he uses later, "histrionics." The comment in question is an ethnonationalist blog post. Not a comment somewhere, but an actual goddamn essay. But you don't have to take my word on it, you can read it yourself: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 You should also click through his archive for more, because this isn't really new for him, it's just taking it to a new low. > by a small group of terminally online histrionics Again, witness the minimization of the actual thing he said and the redirection to the critics. Why? It's the argument pattern they've adopted. The term that the parent post would be looking for it actually "social shaming." You see, shame used to be an effective tool against bigotry. Not wanting to associate with bigots isn't histrionics. On the contrary, being OK with bigotry is bad, and wrong!
Defenestresque 1y ago
In addition, and there are a few of these floating around but this is my devloater of choice, may I suggest https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat ? Despite the fact that it mostly runs in powershell, it still has a better UX then the majority of Microsoft apps. (Except for the confusion about their only GUI pop-up window, you put a check mark next to the built-in apps you want removed, which was led me to reread the instructions to make sure I had it right the first time I used it). It has both built-in sane default for people who just want to debloat Windows 10/11, along with a "custom" option which takes less than 60 seconds to get through but gives you all the customizability you need. (No connection with the author except mad respect.) —sent from my Linux desktop, but alas..
tsycho 1y ago
The only reason I use Windows is for playing some old games (primarily Age of Empires II: DE) that only work well on Windows. In the AoE2 case, I also need CaptureAge that only works on Windows. The point is that even though I have 95% de-Microsoftized my life for the past 2 decades, I still need to run Windows for a few specific flows, and I run into the same issues as the article author here.
- Alupis 1y ago
  AoE2 runs great on Linux[1] [1] https://www.protondb.com/app/813780 https://www.protondb.com/app/813780
  - brooke2k 1y ago
    CaptureAge does not, however.
    - Modified3019 1y ago
      I don’t use it myself, but this recently updated gist seems to have it working: https://gist.github.com/Kjir/dadb0a2bc1a71aa265cfdbecaf7569b8 https://gist.github.com/Kjir/dadb0a2bc1a71aa265cfdbecaf7569b...
IshKebab 1y ago
The best solution is Windows IoT LTSC. It has none of this crap and you also don't have to deal with Linux's crap.
cortesoft 1y ago
I use Linux for almost all my machines, but I have too many games that can only run on windows.
NoPicklez 1y ago
Throwing out 5 different operating systems based on the same thing doesn't seem like a solution, but more of a "here are some other poisons to try".

ramon156 1y ago

May I suggest you give fedora a go? It still feels like the most mature distro out there, but I can be biased

subscribed 1y ago
I used both Fedora and Ubuntu for years and couldn't point to the _better_ distribution. Maybe one thing I had with Fedora: I had to trail one major distribution behind, because going for the most recent releases always ended up hurting me. But that's just for work. I don't think I can move my gaming to Linux yet
- Alupis 1y ago
  I've been using the latest Fedora full-time for over two years without issue, and have been doing nearly all my gaming on it as well. The only gaming that doesn't work are games that deliberately use anti-cheat that doesn't support anything but Windows (typically the games run great in single player or offline, but multiplayer refuses to work). Of my Steam catalog, over 90% just works, and a large amount of that now has native Linux support thanks to the Steam Deck. What particular issues were you experiencing? As a counter anecdote, on my Windows installation I routinely run into "WTF" moments, such as BitLocker randomly deciding I need to enter recovery codes, the constant nagware that is OneDrive and friends, plus when I search for the same binary exe I've launched a dozen times Windows still displays "web results" first - fooling me just about every time.
  - subscribed 1y ago
    Hey, many thanks for this, sorry I didn't notice this comment earlier. So, I have several of the games I play since forever (and will play some more), like Skyrim, but I can't play it without mods because it just looks bad (and I prefer slightly adjusted gameplay). I've seen ProtonDB entry on that and it looks half promising, half problematic. Maybe I'll dust off my old nvme for this? I _think_ I'll try going the Bazzite way - based on Fedora I actually like, reasonably sensible approach to security - and might as well stay IF they support Veracrypt well. And yeah, Windows deception is awful, thankfully most of it can be disabled (until the next sw update).
- crote 1y ago
  Interestingly, I had the opposite experience. With Ubuntu I kept running into bugs which had already been fixed upstream, or which were caused either by Debian's or Ubuntu's patches. And even filing regular bug reports was basically impossible: the Ubuntu packagers will almost certainly ignore it, the Debian packagers aren't interested in bugs happening in mutated versions of outdated packages in their unstable repo, and the upstream maintainers aren't interested in bug reports for weirdly-patched old releases. After several attempts at getting bugs fixed (sometimes even sending complete patches) and getting no response for years I gave up on Ubuntu and switched to Fedora. Their policy is to ship the freshest upstream releases possible, with as few patches as possible. This means I can just directly file my bug reports at the upstream vendor, and a fix will usually land on my system fairly quickly. I do notice that I am slowly using more and more Flatpak desktop apps: why bother with the middleman when you can trivially get the latest release directly from the upstream vendor?
badsectoracula 1y ago
TBH if i decide to change OS again, i'll probably go with Gentoo because AFAIK it provides means to have custom patches for packages and i'd like to do things like, e.g., add some stuff in the file dialog for Gtk3. Though i'm not sure this is something most people would care about, so i didn't mention it (also i only have a vague idea that this is possible, i haven't actually tried it in practice).
- Jach 1y ago
  I've been using Gentoo as my primary OS since 2007, along with gnome2 (now mate) as the desktop environment with the ancient compiz for fancy effects like wobbling windows and a desktop cube. Updates come pretty quickly. It's so nice having rolling releases, dist upgrades for other distros make me nervous and I've lost time to them -- and occasionally other software that certain distros decided to throw you into a curses terminal UI for configuration (or just mysteriously break and fail to install the package if you were using the desktop GUI). The custom patches thing is really nice and fairly straightforward. When you install a package its tarball gets saved in /var/cache/distfiles/ so you can just extract your package with the right version to a temp dir to work on. If you want to patch the package foo/bar you create a diff file /etc/portage/patches/foo/bar/patch-name (git format-patch can help, you just take the diff --git parts) and it gets auto-applied next time you build the package (or if it can't apply the diff, fails and tells you). I don't use this as often as I could, I only have a few patches at the moment (https://github.com/Jach/patches https://github.com/Jach/patches -- there's been a couple minor updates I should push), but it's pretty convenient to fix minor annoyances, take tiny fixes from upstream until they're fully released, or add custom features/text where you want. With overlays to get packages outside of the core distro tree, a lot of software is just available, and even when it's not, you usually have the build tools or can easily install them so building whatever else from source isn't an obstacle. (I do sometimes have to use debian/ubuntu/mint (mint is on my travel laptop that I only use when traveling) and it still gets me sometimes having to make sure build-essential and various -dev packages are installed to do anything.) One downside is that your glibc will likely be newer than a lot of other systems out there, so that creates obstacles to shipping binaries around. You can also create your own packages in an overlay fairly easily as well, or keep some old ones around that have lost their maintainers and get removed from the tree. There's also a somewhat annoying 'license' system (adding license names you accept to a configuration file) but with it the tooling can automatically fetch certain things for downloading (e.g. nvidia driver blobs) that some companies want people to get manually so they can harvest your data/force you to accept some EULA. I'm now remembering that 16 or 17 years ago, the last time I tried Fedora, I was testing it out by plugging in a flash drive (yay it auto mounted) but it failed to play an MP3 file and suggested I pay someone money to install codecs. It's left a sour impression on Fedora ever since, not to mention my lingering question why anyone would want a Red Hat derivative outside of a locked down office (and even then at my old BigCo job we devs got to use Ubuntu). For casual use I still think Mint is probably the best distro at the moment. I tend to recommend the mate desktop environment since it's what I like and am used to but it's a poor distro if you can't easily install any DE of choice on it.

brushfoot 1y ago

My main reasons for using Windows right now are: - Davinci Resolve - Adobe suite - AutoHotkey scripts, lots of them - Microsoft Office, mainly PowerPoint, Excel and Word for creating and interacting with other companies' docs. Libre/OpenOffice mangled them/were missing features I depend on - Issues with my laptop's Nvidia card (screen tearing etc.) last time I tried to switch, and rabbit holes that I don't have time for anymore (solopreneur) That said, I would love to switch back. I loved rofi [0] last time, for example. Can anyone speak to the above? What's the status of running Windows apps like Adobe, Resolve, Office, for instance? Or AutoHotkey or equivalent? 0: https://github.com/davatorium/rofi https://github.com/davatorium/rofi

PhilippGille 1y ago
Davinci Resolve has official support for Linux
- NexRebular 1y ago
  ...and unofficial support for FreeBSD https://github.com/NapoleonWils0n/davinci-resolve-freebsd-jail https://github.com/NapoleonWils0n/davinci-resolve-freebsd-ja...
- brushfoot 1y ago
  Oh wow, thanks for this. I had filed it under "Windows and Mac only" in my head for some reason. Now I see that it was originally Linux only!? Amazing that this free-to-download application supports Linux when Adobe doesn't. Or maybe not so amazing given their different approaches.
badsectoracula 1y ago
About AutoHotKey, you can do similar stuff as long as you are using X11 as there are various utilities for it, such as xdotool[0]. There is even an AutoHotKey-for-Linux project[1] (it also needs X11 - the author did try to port it to Wayland but gave up). For Wayland there are some alternatives like ydotool[2] (actually AFAIK since ydotool uses some daemon to inject events it works with anything, not just Wayland, but on the other hand it only provides a basic tiny subset of xdotool's commands) but the core protocol isn't particularly friendly to such automation. [0] https://github.com/jordansissel/xdotool https://github.com/jordansissel/xdotool [1] https://github.com/phil294/AHK_X11 https://github.com/phil294/AHK_X11 [2] https://github.com/ReimuNotMoe/ydotool https://github.com/ReimuNotMoe/ydotool

pkulak 1y ago

I would vote for Bluefin: https://projectbluefin.io/ https://projectbluefin.io/ It's very similar to Bazzite, which you listed, but not gamer focused. You get an easy install, auto updates (without reboots), and a bulletproof, immutable OS that is nearly impossible to break. If you want bling and tiling, Omarchy is the new hotness: https://omarchy.org/ https://omarchy.org/

drbw 1y ago
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- dimator 1y ago
  Out of the loop, why not?
  - sugarpimpdorsey 1y ago
    An open source developer (the creator of Ruby on Rails and Omarchy Linux) made a political comment someone didn't like. Now there is a concerted effort by a small group of terminally online histrionics to ruin his life and get all his projects cancelled. The comment was apparently made on his personal blog and not in any official capacity.
    - ColonelBlimp 1y ago
      As far as I know, this is the blog post that led to the backlash https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64
    - McGlockenshire 1y ago
      > made a political comment someone didn't like It should be noted that this specific framing ("it's just a disagreement," "someone didn't like it," "it's nothing big") is used by the people that, instead, like the "comment." It's an extremely common pattern. So is one of the words he uses later, "histrionics." The comment in question is an ethnonationalist blog post. Not a comment somewhere, but an actual goddamn essay. But you don't have to take my word on it, you can read it yourself: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 You should also click through his archive for more, because this isn't really new for him, it's just taking it to a new low. > by a small group of terminally online histrionics Again, witness the minimization of the actual thing he said and the redirection to the critics. Why? It's the argument pattern they've adopted. The term that the parent post would be looking for it actually "social shaming." You see, shame used to be an effective tool against bigotry. Not wanting to associate with bigots isn't histrionics. On the contrary, being OK with bigotry is bad, and wrong!

Defenestresque 1y ago

In addition, and there are a few of these floating around but this is my devloater of choice, may I suggest https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat ? Despite the fact that it mostly runs in powershell, it still has a better UX then the majority of Microsoft apps. (Except for the confusion about their only GUI pop-up window, you put a check mark next to the built-in apps you want removed, which was led me to reread the instructions to make sure I had it right the first time I used it). It has both built-in sane default for people who just want to debloat Windows 10/11, along with a "custom" option which takes less than 60 seconds to get through but gives you all the customizability you need. (No connection with the author except mad respect.) —sent from my Linux desktop, but alas..

tsycho 1y ago

The only reason I use Windows is for playing some old games (primarily Age of Empires II: DE) that only work well on Windows. In the AoE2 case, I also need CaptureAge that only works on Windows. The point is that even though I have 95% de-Microsoftized my life for the past 2 decades, I still need to run Windows for a few specific flows, and I run into the same issues as the article author here.

Alupis 1y ago
AoE2 runs great on Linux[1] [1] https://www.protondb.com/app/813780 https://www.protondb.com/app/813780
- brooke2k 1y ago
  CaptureAge does not, however.
  - Modified3019 1y ago
    I don’t use it myself, but this recently updated gist seems to have it working: https://gist.github.com/Kjir/dadb0a2bc1a71aa265cfdbecaf7569b8 https://gist.github.com/Kjir/dadb0a2bc1a71aa265cfdbecaf7569b...

IshKebab 1y ago

The best solution is Windows IoT LTSC. It has none of this crap and you also don't have to deal with Linux's crap.

cortesoft 1y ago

I use Linux for almost all my machines, but I have too many games that can only run on windows.

NoPicklez 1y ago

Throwing out 5 different operating systems based on the same thing doesn't seem like a solution, but more of a "here are some other poisons to try".