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It has changed quite a bit here in the US too, even among the Jewish population. Our synagogue is very divided on this, mainly between the young and the old.
by some-guy 1y ago
It has changed quite a bit here in the US too, even among the Jewish population. Our synagogue is very divided on this, mainly between the young and the old.
- sieep 1y agoVery true. I've gone on dates with a couple Jewish women over the past two or three years & they've all staunchly supported Palestine which surprised me a bit.
- Aeolun 1y agoWhy would that surprise you? I think the opposite opinion is a lot more surprising. One in every 50 children in Gaza was killed by the Israeli military. That’s like killing a child in every second classroom in the US…
- sieep 1y agoThat's a fair point. My gut reaction is that people will default to tribalism, but I think this has been a different situation than most others (and going on a lot longer).
- zeroonetwothree 1y agoYour sample size of two surely is conclusive? lol
- sieep 1y agoI'm just speaking from my personal experience and don't mean to draw any conclusions about anything.
- khazhoux 1y agoI can understand your skepticism, but this is an example of what is termed “normal human conversation,” where people share their personal experiences. Quite often, one will find people sharing stories without the backing of statistical evidence.
- sa501428 1y agoWhy is it surprising? Fwiw my Jewish friends have also been quite vocal in opposing Netanyahu/Likud, usually more vocal than Muslim friends.
- DSingularity 1y agoI think it’s surprising because Israelis are very loud in their support for Netanyahu. Yeah, there are protests but it polling suggests that the overwhelming majority of Israelis support Netanyahu.
- js212 1y agoNo they are not. It’s like 20%
- swat535 1y agoComments like that reminds of people asserting blanket statements like: majority of Iranians support the regime and hate Jews! Like do people not realize Iranian Jews also exist? Anyway I digress..
- DSingularity 1y agoOver 60% of Israelis believe there is nobody innocent in Gaza. That’s like the core operating principle of the Netanyahu-Smotrich-Ben Gvir government. The Israeli street is thoroughly behind the Genocide and the polling has been showing this for over a year.
- sieep 1y agoMy gut assumption is that people will default to tribalism, but that has proven to be wrong over the past few years.
- js212 1y agoI think the fact that you have gone on dates with Jewish women shows they don’t really care about being Jewish.
- madaxe_again 1y agoMy boomer Jewish stepmother surprised me when I saw her recently - complete U-turn from last year’s “all Palestinians are human animals” to “Netanyahu is a war criminal”.
- lkey 1y agoThe statistics bear this out, millennials on down are very against this. Within the last year a true overall majority of the American Jewish population are opposed to what Israel is doing to Gaza. I expect this trend to continue. The truest supporters of Israel in America have always been Christian (for both insane and cynical reasons).
- throwaway3060 1y agoDo you have a source for this?
- danans 1y agoHere is a good background: https://jewishcurrents.org/antisemitic-zionists-arent-a-contradiction-in-terms https://jewishcurrents.org/antisemitic-zionists-arent-a-cont...
- Joeboy 1y ago“There you are, Mr. Netanyahu! Just who do you think you are, killing thousands and flattening neighborhoods, then wrapping yourself in Judaism like it’s some shield from criticism? You’re making life for Jews miserable, and life for American Jews impossible!” - Jewish character on the latest South Park, a show created and run by two Jewish people. Also ”It’s not Jews vs. Palestine, it’s Israel vs. Palestine!”
- catigula 1y agoHard to imagine that this argument exists, the real victims of mass murder aren't the actual victims of mass murder.
- Joeboy 1y agoIf a country was killing thousands of people and saying it was to make people like you safer, might you not be inclined to point out it's having the opposite effect?
- catigula 1y agoNo, that isn't my general reaction to Hitler saying he killed Jews to make Europeans safer. My reaction is "what are you talking about, psycho murderer?" That's a good look, try that.
- Joeboy 1y agoPerhaps we'll have to agree to differ, but I think American Jews being like "not in my name" sends a more politically effective message than "what are you talking about, psycho murderer?". tbf I'm not primarily interested in what's a good look.
- catigula 1y agoI think we're stuck and have to agree to disagree but the message sent is at least indistinguishable from the message of a self-interested sociopathic community with no moral concerns beyond their own. When I do things I at least try to make it discernible from psychopathy.