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> The ultimate all-in-one PC I object to this labelling: the term “all-in-one PC” has always been used to mean a computer integrated into a screen, to which yo
by chrismorgan 1y ago
> The ultimate all-in-one PC
I object to this labelling: the term “all-in-one PC” has always been used to mean a computer integrated into a screen, to which you must add a keyboard and mouse (or more likely it will be bundled with a low-quality keyboard and mouse). But this is a computer integrated into a (good) keyboard, to which you must add a screen and mouse—and screens are more expensive than keyboards. Even a basic not-too-horrible screen will cost another $80, and the sort of screen you might like to pair with such a keyboard might be double that.
- geerlingguy 1y agoYeah; the marketing language around new Pi products is always a bit flowery... besides this misnomer calling it 'AIO', the marketing also says "uncompromising performance" and "premium desktop computer", which I'd argue are quite a stretch, unless you're comparing it to SBCs and not... desktop computers!
- musicale 1y agoI'd prefer more honest marketing: - ARM system that fits inside a decent compact keyboard - acceptable performance for basic computing tasks - mostly as usable as a mini PC running Linux - 5-10 years of software support - easy access to GPIO pins etc.
- TiredOfLife 1y ago> screens are more expensive than keyboards This keyboard https://www.norbauer.co/products/the-seneca?variant=48640876151092 https://www.norbauer.co/products/the-seneca?variant=48640876... is more expensive than Pro Display XDR with nanotexture and the 1k stand
- pdpi 1y agoAdam Savage posted a video a couple of weeks ago, where he discusses this keyboard with Ryan Norbauer. That thing is overengineered to the point I'd argue it actually becomes some sort of artistic statement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3FEv1qw4_w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3FEv1qw4_w
- binary132 1y agoOverpriced to the point that it becomes an artistic statement: “The buyer fell for it again”
- pcdoodle 1y agoI really like my new macbook keyboard but hate apple. There's something cool about buying from small designers that make something you can't get anywhere else, not because it's rare, but executed in a way that makes no business sense at scale. Find your niche.
- binary132 1y agoI agree and I’ll even cop to having fallen for it a bit myself. But I’m not saying I didn’t fall for it. They aren’t that great for this usecase.
- pdpi 1y agoThat's unnecessarily negative. I'd argue it's not overpriced in the least. It's insanely pricey, of course, and that price tag comes with no real utility above and beyond what a more mundane mechanical keyboard would provide, but it's priced pretty fairly considering the costs involved.
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- pcdoodle 1y agoI love it. Great artists ship and they are making what they want and lucky enough to have others that appreciate it and buy.
- Sohcahtoa82 1y agoSeems like the Rolex of keyboards. People gush over how it's built as if it actually improves the function of it.
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- daft_pink 1y agoI also don’t get the language and would prefer to supply my own Keychron with a regular raspberry pi.
- esseph 1y agoSpending more on the keyboard than on the pi! :-)
- imtringued 1y agoYeah but screens are dirt cheap if you are willing to buy them used via classified ads.
- bombcar 1y agoThe term I've used for these is "single board computer".
- cesarb 1y ago> Even a basic not-too-horrible screen will cost another $80 I believe the idea is that you'd plug it into the TV you already have, like we did in the 1980s.
- kevin_thibedeau 1y agoOr you just buy a below $200 laptop.
- yjftsjthsd-h 1y agoWith 16GB of RAM and 256GB of SSD? Has the market really gotten that far?
- makeitdouble 1y agoBelow $200 laptops are way worse than what people imagine. Too many people look at ads, see something that looks like a laptop, and assume it's just a "no thrill" machine that mostly works. I've heard so many "how bad can it be?" hot takes as they've never used anything at that price. ※refurbished is another story, here we're talking about a new and under guarantee device so that wouldn't compare.
- mjh2539 1y agoYou can buy a near mint lenovo l14 gen 3 from 2022 for $200. I know this because I bought one for my in-laws a few days ago.
- makeitdouble 1y agoYou don't get support and the laptop can fail on you on week 4 you're just SOL. I understand the value of second hand, and randomly bought a discarded corporate HP tower for my home server. But I see it more as a hobby as I can probably fix most issues, than as a purchasing strategy I'd recommend to non technical people for instance.
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- egypturnash 1y agoYou don't add a new screen. You plug it into the family TV. Just like you did in the eighties when you were a kid learning to program with your Speccy or c64 or whatever. Mom or Dad or your siblings can hang out and comment on what you're doing with it. That's the experience Raspberry has been claiming to want to reproduce since they first came onto the scene in 2012, despite them not getting around to stuffing a Pi into this form factor until 2022.
- Our_Benefactors 1y ago> Mom or Dad or your siblings can hang out and comment on what you're doing with it. This sounds really cozy. For those of us who never got to experience it - bring it back!
- antod 1y agoLying on the living room floor looking up the the TV was great for getting a sore neck. And I still have crusty calloused skin on my elbows from the carpet. Getting an Amiga later on with an actual monitor that sat on a desk was amazing.
- visarga 1y agoOr you plug it into one of your old monitors. We all have them laying around.
- ahmedfromtunis 1y agoEver since I had my own source of income, I've only bought laptops and I do not possess any monitor (old or new) at home. Writing this, I just realized that even at work, we only have a single monitor. And it's stored on a shelf not even plugged.
- avhon1 1y agoIf that's the only thing keeping you from buying and using a raspberry pi, you can get secondhand monitors or TVs for $20 or so.
- andoando 1y agoOr you just learn to compute blind
- frollogaston 1y agoDid this when I built a server with integrated graphics only to find that the motherboard somehow didn't support it
- globular-toast 1y agoMobo integrated graphics require CPU support. Maybe you bought one of the slightly cheaper Intel "F" chips without realising it lacks the graphics support?
- frollogaston 1y agoIt was just K, not KF
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