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Apple A19 SoC die shot
- nomel 1y agoIs there a link to a version that isn't almost entirely compression artifacts? This definitely isn't the original, since the blue text at the bottom right isn't even legible.
- Neywiny 1y agoYeah if you scroll down they tell you how
- system2 1y agoI scrolled down, and there is only 1 paragraph of text and two blurry images. What did you scroll down to?
- daemonologist 1y agoSeems like the full resolution images are for sale ("contact us").
- bigwheels 1y ago+1, it's pretty fuzzy. Maybe chipsandcheese or hotchips will do an independent imaging? The A19 appears to be remarkably intricate chip.
- Zee2 1y agoIt’s still my strongly held belief that things like this are one of humanity’s grandest achievements.
- brcmthrowaway 1y agoNah, NVIDIA GPU has way more raw computational power & smarts.
- NetMageSCW 1y agoSee how fast it is running on 8 watts.
- userbinator 1y agoGPUs are far more regular in structure, lots of "copy-pasted" blocks, because they are a collection of many relatively simple processors.
- temp0826 1y agoIt's definitely an "on the shoulders of giants standing on the shoulders of giants" thing. Insane breakthrough technologies on top of other insane breakthroughs. Firing lasers at microscopic molten drops of metal in a controlled enough manner to get massively consistent results like what??
- itopaloglu83 1y agoIt’s a mind blowing achievement, nothing below sorcery if you think about it. ASML machines are hitting tin droplets with 25kW laser 50,000 times a second to turn them into plasma to create the necessary extreme ultraviolet light, and despite generating 500W of EUV, only a small fraction can reach the wafer, due to loses along the way. I believe it was like 10%. Here’s an incredible, very detailed video about it: https://youtu.be/B2482h_TNwg https://youtu.be/B2482h_TNwg
- bigwheels 1y ago
- muricula 1y agoDoes anyone know what the block dot at 12 o'clock on the image is? https://chipwise.tech/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/A19_SoC_dieshot.jpg https://chipwise.tech/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/A19_SoC_die...
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- wicktron 1y agoMissing Anandtech.com right about now
- sonofhans 1y ago/me pours one out
- alberth 1y agoChips & Cheese is a good current alternative. https://chipsandcheese.com/ https://chipsandcheese.com/
- fooker 1y agoJust in case you didn’t know, dude works at Apple now! (For about ten years now..)
- musicale 1y agoI wonder if Anandtech would have lasted longer if that hadn't happened.
- re-thc 1y agoProbably not. The market moved on. Giving such involved in depth articles for free was no sustainable compared to clickbait random articles.
- close04 1y agoAnand was involved in a scandal recently there [0]. Is he still in that job? The driving force behind the reviews for mobiles and related topics at AT was Andrei Frumusanu. His reviews had a level of depth very few even on AT could touch. But he left to work for Qualcomm so that ended his reviewer stint. [0] https://www.tweaktown.com/news/70653/anandtech-founder-sent-confidential-apple-material-to-nuvia-staffer/index.html https://www.tweaktown.com/news/70653/anandtech-founder-sent-...
- top_sigrid 1y agoAre there also already analyses of these die shots, explaining what be concluded from them?
- wmf 1y agohttps://xcancel.com/highyieldYT/status/1970533400151818256 https://xcancel.com/highyieldYT/status/1970533400151818256
- alberth 1y agoDo TSMC current node sizes allow for Backside Power Delivery (BPD)? As someone who knows nothing about PCB, from those images it appears that double side printing of some sort is happening. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
- monocasa 1y agoNo backside power delivery on TSMC yet, even at 2nm. It's supposed to come on TSMC's A16 node. I think what you're seeing is the silicon layers visible from the back through the bulk substrate, and the metal layers on the front.
- wmf 1y agoThere is no backside anything here. This may be a photo of a thinned die; silicon is somewhat transparent so you can often see the die structures better from the back because it isn't blocked by the metal stack.
- adgjlsfhk1 1y agoIt will be a shame when backside power delivery makes that not work as well.
- dishsoap 1y agoWell I see the 'die shot,' but not the 'analysis'
- giuliomagnifico 1y agoUnfortunately I think think you have to pay for the analysis and high resolution pics.
- drob518 1y agoI think I see a bug.
- amelius 1y agoA bug as in a MEMS microphone?
- brailsafe 1y agoDidn't think I'd be confronted with a covert Factorio map today. I just deleted the damn game to try and regain control over my life!
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- hmottestad 1y agoAnyone interested in more info and detailed videos should check out Geekerwan: https://youtu.be/Y9SwluJ9qPI https://youtu.be/Y9SwluJ9qPI English subtitles are recommended, unless you are better at Chinese than I am.
- ksec 1y agoThe interesting part is the E-Core on A19 Pro are nearly as good as the previous ARM Big Core while only using half the power. I would love to know the die size of the cache and E-Core. ARM were catching up to Apple in terms of big core, now Apple has leapfrogged in E-Core again. But competition is good. ARM should have some announcement coming in next few months.
- miotintherain 1y agoIs there some magic with AI that lets you watch those videos dubbed in English?
- msephton 1y agoThere's a YouTube feature but the creator needs to enable it per-video.
- hirvi74 1y agoThe only thing more impressive than this technology to me is possibly the machines that manufacture these chips.
- flykespice 1y agoKen Shirriff it's your time
- kens 1y agoI'm afraid that chip is too complicated for me. I'm still trying to figure out the 386 :-) But I did colorize the A19 die photo with Apple's M1 rainbow gradient, just for fun: https://oldbytes.space/@kenshirriff/115256179526128051 https://oldbytes.space/@kenshirriff/115256179526128051
- userbinator 1y agoIf the Apple A19 could be made in the 386's process (1000-1500nm), it would be about 300-500x bigger than its current size in each dimension. "too complicated", what an understatement! Even the 386 wasn't exactly simple. The complexity of these modern chips is mind-bendingly immense.
- astrange 1y agoThe A19 is a SoC so it's doing a lot more than a 386 would have.
- flykespice 1y agoHaha no sweat I'm be waiting for your 386 series
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- watusername 1y agoWhat’s wrong with Substack?
- petralithic 1y agoThey might be referring to Substack having a very open policy of having writers of any political (and other) affiliation on the platform, but I don't necessarily see it as a drawback to be so neutral.
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- th0ma5 1y agoThis. Sorry you're getting down votes at this moment for speaking the truth, but there really is no excuse for anti society anti intellectual illiberalism from the world's literal biggest losers.
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- petralithic 1y agoIf you want free speech, you'll have to have people who have views you don't like, otherwise they might silence you too.
- elcritch 1y agoFascinating, what surprises me is that it looks more "fractal" like than other chip dies I've looked at. Perhaps all the newest ones do, however it makes me wonder if part of Apples secret sauce is more sophisticated design tooling.
- bottlepalm 1y agoAny idea of transistor count?
- tempodox 1y agoIt’s tragic that those die shots are so tiny, you can’t make out anything.