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LinkedIn will soon train AI models with data from European users
- thimabi 1y agoThese days LinkedIn is a cesspool of AI-generated feel-good “inspirational” content anyway… I don’t see anything good coming out of training models from its user data.
- unglaublich 1y ago"I am so grateful for the opportunity to help you with a recipe for guacamole today. It is a humbling, educational experience and I am looking forward to collaborating on with you. Please be aware that I am still open to an interesting occupation in my field and I welcome any referrals."
- Havoc 1y agoI wish them the best of luck with that. Short of 4chan it's hard to think of a worse dataset. Do you really want a model trained on corporate thought leader gibberish?
- drsalt 1y agogood insight
- pandemic_region 1y agoAre you open for exciting new opportunities in your area?
- andy99 1y agoCommenting for reach
- lifestyleguru 1y agothank you so much guys
- elzbardico 1y agoSo, soon we will see AI generated job descriptions for American companies offering 6-month paternity leave and 30 days/year paid vacations?
- welho 1y agoPerhaps this will fix the work-life balance for American people in the long term.
- Vinnl 1y agoOff topic, but less than a decade ago paternity leave in the Netherlands was just two days, and it's still nowhere near six months, unfortunately.
- slu 1y agoIn Denmark there's 4 weeks for the mother (right after giving birth) and then 24 weeks for the mother and their partner each, i.e., a total of 52 weeks. It's also possible to transfer weeks between the parents.
- lionkor 1y agoThe companies want the FREEDOM to mistreat employees FREELY.
- general1465 1y agoBut the moment when recruit refuses offered wage, they will start crying that nobody wants to work anymore.
- fnordian_slip 1y agoI know it's a rather privileged thing to say, but I just passed up a job opportunity because I don't want to get back to 30 paid vacation days. Once you get used to 47 (took a voluntary paycut of 5 percent for 12 extra days), where you get so many side projects done because you have the time, it's hard to go back to the normal 28-35. So I have no idea why the US rarely goes above 20 or whatever they have.
- heikkilevanto 1y agoGlad I never had an account on LinkedIn
- zenmac 1y agoWish I was like you. I have NOT touched them since MS acquisition. And now I don't have access to the email linked with the account anymore. Guess they are just gonna train the *it out of my data. Really really regret signing up for that service.
- pandemic_region 1y agoI can get you an invite if you want
- guywhocodes 1y agoI wonder what this will do for enterprise sales posting
- rckt 1y agoYou can opt out here: https://www.linkedin.com/mypreferences/m/settings/data-for-ai-improvement https://www.linkedin.com/mypreferences/m/settings/data-for-a...
- sschueller 1y agoThank you.
- Igrom 1y agoThanks. This should have been _opt in_, and not opt out, regardless of any LinkedIn newsletter emails that automatically go to the garbage bin.
- amelius 1y agoSurprised the EU did not make "opt in" the mandatory default for something like this.
- thrance 1y agoI wish it did, but I am not surprised it does not. The EU remains a fundamentally pro-business organization at its core.
- PunchyHamster 1y agoLegislation for the AI slop will take few years probably
- nwellnhof 1y agoMaking this feature opt-out is a clear violation of the GDPR. Linkedin claims they have a "legitimate interest" in collecting this data for AI training without consent, but this argument is laughable.
- omnicognate 1y ago"Legitimate interest" is abused on an absurd scale
- bananapub 1y agolink to opt out: https://www.linkedin.com/mypreferences/d/settings/data-for-ai-improvement https://www.linkedin.com/mypreferences/d/settings/data-for-a...
- senko 1y ago> The company says it will rely on “legitimate interests” as its legal basis and will offer an opt-out so members can refuse use of their data for training "Legitimate interest" is a very specific term in context of GDPR. Not a lawyer, but have been looking into it previously, and I doubt "we want to feed data to our AI so we can make more money" passes the Legitimate Interest Assesment (LIA) test. Here's an example of a test that must pass (sorry, docx, but way better than a random explainer): https://ico.org.uk/media2/for-organisations/forms/2258435/gdpr-guidance-legitimate-interests-sample-lia-template.docx https://ico.org.uk/media2/for-organisations/forms/2258435/gd...
- tgsovlerkhgsel 1y agoThat looks like it would be easy to argue that it passes (claiming "makes the platform better for everyone", "not achievable without using the data", "the data is data that the people share voluntarily on the platform and isn't sensitive", "they're customers, we e-mailed them and they could opt out if they cared", "we expect this to have no impact on the individuals" (until the AI starts regurgitating sensitive details, but that's an "oops" for later), and "we are offering an opt-out even though we wouldn't have to" (claimed despite the lawyer strongly urging an opt-out, otherwise they wouldn't have even offered that).
- lionkor 1y agoGDPR doesn't allow "they knew and they could have opted out if they cared". You need explicit written consent.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 1y agoGDPR allows processing based either on consent (which doesn't need to be "written" but does need to be explicit and informed) or legitimate interest (or some other reasons that tend to be irrelevant for this kind of thing). Legitimate interest does NOT require consent, is murky, and thus often gets used to justify things that should not exist under GDPR but the most likely consequence is that the company gets to do it for 3+ years before being told "no, you can't do that anymore"...
- siva7 1y agoGreat! Now AI will be optimized for humble-bragging about thought leadership and congratulating connections on work anniversaries they forgot about.
- OtherShrezzing 1y agoAs far as I can tell, LinkedIn's content is already 99% LLM generated posts. The resulting models might be a terrible hybrid distillation of GPT5 and Claude with a strong preference for hustle culture & banal parables.
- verandaguy 1y agoFrankly, at this point, I’m here for an AI feedback loop leading into model collapse. Let it burn.
- devoutsalsa 1y agoEvolution of LinkedIn posts over time... "Should you choose to inscribe the lexical designation 'DOMINATE' within the commentary section, I shall subsequently furnish you with my proprietary methodology for accumulating substantial financial wealth in the millions." "Comment the word DOMINATE and I'll share my secret method for making millions of dollars." "yo if u type DOMINATE in comments ill tell u how 2 get mad rich like millions n stuff fr fr no cap"
- Toorkit 1y agoDOMINATE
- overfeed 1y ago"Congratulations on tiur furst step towards financial independence. Next,you may sign up on our online pig-butchering trading platform, and make sure you buy and hold our new Dominus (INUS) shitcoin. We also have drops daily, make sure you hodl, and it will GO TO THE MOON soon. If you invest USD15000, you'll be a millionaire by 2029"
- sixtyj 1y agoIdiocracy movie as a template? :)
- jgalt212 1y agoSeriously, I cannot fathom any real benefit that LinkedIn would accrue from training on the pathologically upbeat pablum posted by its users and bots acting on behalf of its users.
- thatjoeoverthr 1y agoThere's a film about this, Multiplicity.
- zelphirkalt 1y agoI've said this elsewhere: The EU should crack down on this. Opt-out is not acceptable behavior.
- toolis 1y agoi'm excited to find out what AI will learn about b2b sales from all the cringe posts.
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- alex1138 1y agoBecause of course they do lol Stop AI-ifying your platforms
- sgt 1y agoSeeing that LinkedIn these days is 90% AI-slop, wouldn't this mean that the AI is being trained by AI?
- blitzar 1y agoThis is an incredibly dangerous development - when Ai learns the grind and hustle it is going to accelerate the timeline to Judgement day. Only the people with the right grindset that do a 4am ice face bath will survive.
- numericcitizen 1y agoLinkedIn is becoming the other Facebook...
- RegW 1y agoI don't think they have ever pretended not to be a platform that gathers data about users.
- supermatt 1y agoWhat is it with American big tech and blatant disregard for EU privacy laws. “Legitimate interest” is being used here to skirt around the need for consent (I.e. explicit opt-in) specifically because they know users will not give consent (otherwise they could easily ask them). That is an immediate red flag when it comes to “balancing” the rights and needs of the user vs the data processors “legitimate interest”. i.e. big fine incoming for LinkedIn.
- rustc 1y agoBut will the "big fine" be more than the money LinkedIn will make by doing this?
- supermatt 1y agoI would like to think this will go towards the upper bounds (up to 4% of global revenue), as they are doing so wilfully and to a large number of users. This is exactly the showcase the EU needs to make an example of how not to abuse the legitimate interest exceptions. Its a really stupid time to test the EU over something that cant have much net value to LinkedIn - a 1bn EUR fine (approx 4% of LinkedIns revenue) is well within the current internal "cap" the EU have reached with issuance of fines. But who knows. The EU is much more patient than I, and prefers boiling frogs to scalding them.
- realusername 1y agoI'm not sure how they are going to make money from this. LinkedIn has to be one of the most worthless dataset in existence for training an AI, half of it already looks generated by a LLM itself and the rest is low value content. Even if it was free I wouldn't include it in AI training.
- rich_sasha 1y agoQuality of LinkedIn feeds is the lowest of all social network sites I occasionally view. Instagram at least has attractive people and puppies. I don't know if it's AI slop or people genuinely baring their souls and revealing corpo-BS pseudo-deep thoughts, with a drop of grifters pushing their BS "Uber but for nailcare on Blockchain" whitepapers, either way I don't see any value you could extract from it.
- raugustinus 1y ago"Uber but for nailcare on Blockchain". I'm laughing but I'm not sure if I should be crying. Thanks for the laugh!
- untrimmed 1y agoThe part that really gets me is that opting out doesn't affect models already trained on my data. It kinda feels like closing the barn door after the horse has already bolted.
- 5350-uiop-1130 1y agois this what they mean by eat your own dog food
- medwards666 1y agonah, dogs eat far better than this ...
- gethly 1y agoIt is infuriating that this thing is opt-out instead of opt-in, irregardless of advanced notice to configure it.
- intellectronica 1y agoMaybe it will finally start recommending better cheese. My feed is so boring.
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- 0cf8612b2e1e 1y agoI am flabbergasted that Microsoft thinks they need just a more data. Surely we are way past diminishing returns on what some phony, inspirational work memes can deliver. Why take the legal risk?
- tracker1 1y agoWhat do you expect from a company that bypasses security models on mobile devices to intercept emails? Of course it's opt-out... I'm guessing US users don't get any option.
- thiht 1y agoWhy the hell does LinkedIn need to train AI models?
- Tubelord 1y agoTraining models on so much AI-generated content will certainly lead to diminishing quality.