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I am a Republican and an immigrant and there are millions of others. So perhaps it is more complicated than that.

by xyzelement 1y ago

mperham 1y ago
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- pinkmuffinere 1y ago
  Surely the poster is allowed to be Republican and an immigrant? They didn't even say they voted for Trump. Eg, if they're fiscally conservative and strongly anti-abortion, they may find that they are best aligned with the Republican party, despite being an immigrant.
  - wussboy 1y ago
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    - pinkmuffinere 1y ago
      I think I agree with your political views, and that makes me sad. It would be easier to believe in "my" party if this sort of stupidity wasn't so blatant.
Tostino 1y ago
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- Scoundreller 1y ago
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pinkmuffinere 1y ago
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- dboreham 1y ago
  Perhaps the idea is the post must be false, since nobody would support a party so opposed to their own interests. Otoh that's how left wing politics has worked since the 70s..
- xyzelement 1y ago
  I don't mind and of course just being a Republican is controversial enough in an online community. The ridiculous thing is that people actually don't have the world view / awareness that is compatible with the physical reality of a ton of immigrants being Republicans and Trump supporters - and things shifting even more this way as of the last election. It's ridiculous both because of your opinion doesn't cover that reality then you obviously can't understand because you can't even imagine - and also if you are really trying to fight it then you need to be real about what's happening.
sdenton4 1y ago
You should talk to your representatives, then.
bix6 1y ago
I would love to know why you feel more aligned with Republicans as an immigrant?
- xyzelement 1y ago
  Came here legally, speak English, embrace American culture, appreciate the police keeping my neighborhood safe, support faith, etc. There's nearly hundred percent alignment with my values. Surprised this is so surprising. Like I said there's millions of people like me.
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- xyzelement 1y ago
  Neither. I am an open minded individual who's traveled the world, and am a dual citizen, highly educated, highly intelligent and successful:) And naturally I was a Democrat through 2016, but as Democrats moved left they left me behind on a lot of issues. And then the fact that your side is now like "you are evil or stupid if you don't agree with us" (eg your post) makes any re-engagement impossible. You seem like a really thoughtful person from your non political posting history but this is clearly such a trigger topic. I know it's not just you but it's really unattractive.
  - duped 1y ago
    What issues do you feel left behind on? And why do you think the Democratic Party has moved left on them? The mistake I think you're making is that people want to reengage with the fascists that call themselves Republicans or that their political beliefs are legitimate. Your party is letting an authoritarian president tear our rule of law, customs, institutions, economy, and people apart - and it gets worse everyday. There is no engagement with the insanity that is MAGA. If you just want an example, I have many friends and family who are gay or trans. Republicans don't believe they should be allowed to exist, and at the extreme ends, advocate violence against them. Why should I pretend that there's any engagement possible on that angle, when one "side" is inherently violent?
    - xyzelement 1y ago
      As I alluded to in my prior comment - the fact that you are so ready to call people insane fascists (or in prior post, dumb or evil) is the end of the conversation. Wherever you live in the US, at least 1 out of 3 of your neighbors voted for Trump. That's a lot of random people to call fascist.
      - duped 1y ago

I am a Republican and an immigrant and there are millions of others. So perhaps it is more complicated than that.

mperham 1y ago

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pinkmuffinere 1y ago
Surely the poster is allowed to be Republican and an immigrant? They didn't even say they voted for Trump. Eg, if they're fiscally conservative and strongly anti-abortion, they may find that they are best aligned with the Republican party, despite being an immigrant.
- wussboy 1y ago
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  - pinkmuffinere 1y ago
    I think I agree with your political views, and that makes me sad. It would be easier to believe in "my" party if this sort of stupidity wasn't so blatant.

Tostino 1y ago

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Scoundreller 1y ago
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pinkmuffinere 1y ago

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dboreham 1y ago
Perhaps the idea is the post must be false, since nobody would support a party so opposed to their own interests. Otoh that's how left wing politics has worked since the 70s..
xyzelement 1y ago
I don't mind and of course just being a Republican is controversial enough in an online community. The ridiculous thing is that people actually don't have the world view / awareness that is compatible with the physical reality of a ton of immigrants being Republicans and Trump supporters - and things shifting even more this way as of the last election. It's ridiculous both because of your opinion doesn't cover that reality then you obviously can't understand because you can't even imagine - and also if you are really trying to fight it then you need to be real about what's happening.

sdenton4 1y ago

You should talk to your representatives, then.

bix6 1y ago

I would love to know why you feel more aligned with Republicans as an immigrant?

xyzelement 1y ago
Came here legally, speak English, embrace American culture, appreciate the police keeping my neighborhood safe, support faith, etc. There's nearly hundred percent alignment with my values. Surprised this is so surprising. Like I said there's millions of people like me.
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xyzelement 1y ago
Neither. I am an open minded individual who's traveled the world, and am a dual citizen, highly educated, highly intelligent and successful:) And naturally I was a Democrat through 2016, but as Democrats moved left they left me behind on a lot of issues. And then the fact that your side is now like "you are evil or stupid if you don't agree with us" (eg your post) makes any re-engagement impossible. You seem like a really thoughtful person from your non political posting history but this is clearly such a trigger topic. I know it's not just you but it's really unattractive.
- duped 1y ago
  What issues do you feel left behind on? And why do you think the Democratic Party has moved left on them? The mistake I think you're making is that people want to reengage with the fascists that call themselves Republicans or that their political beliefs are legitimate. Your party is letting an authoritarian president tear our rule of law, customs, institutions, economy, and people apart - and it gets worse everyday. There is no engagement with the insanity that is MAGA. If you just want an example, I have many friends and family who are gay or trans. Republicans don't believe they should be allowed to exist, and at the extreme ends, advocate violence against them. Why should I pretend that there's any engagement possible on that angle, when one "side" is inherently violent?
  - xyzelement 1y ago
    As I alluded to in my prior comment - the fact that you are so ready to call people insane fascists (or in prior post, dumb or evil) is the end of the conversation. Wherever you live in the US, at least 1 out of 3 of your neighbors voted for Trump. That's a lot of random people to call fascist.
    - duped 1y ago