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- xyzelement 1y agoI am a Republican and an immigrant and there are millions of others. So perhaps it is more complicated than that.
- mperham 1y ago[flagged]
- pinkmuffinere 1y agoSurely the poster is allowed to be Republican and an immigrant? They didn't even say they voted for Trump. Eg, if they're fiscally conservative and strongly anti-abortion, they may find that they are best aligned with the Republican party, despite being an immigrant.
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- pinkmuffinere 1y agoI think I agree with your political views, and that makes me sad. It would be easier to believe in "my" party if this sort of stupidity wasn't so blatant.
- Tostino 1y ago[flagged]
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- dboreham 1y agoPerhaps the idea is the post must be false, since nobody would support a party so opposed to their own interests. Otoh that's how left wing politics has worked since the 70s..
- xyzelement 1y agoI don't mind and of course just being a Republican is controversial enough in an online community. The ridiculous thing is that people actually don't have the world view / awareness that is compatible with the physical reality of a ton of immigrants being Republicans and Trump supporters - and things shifting even more this way as of the last election. It's ridiculous both because of your opinion doesn't cover that reality then you obviously can't understand because you can't even imagine - and also if you are really trying to fight it then you need to be real about what's happening.
- sdenton4 1y agoYou should talk to your representatives, then.
- bix6 1y agoI would love to know why you feel more aligned with Republicans as an immigrant?
- xyzelement 1y agoCame here legally, speak English, embrace American culture, appreciate the police keeping my neighborhood safe, support faith, etc. There's nearly hundred percent alignment with my values. Surprised this is so surprising. Like I said there's millions of people like me.
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- xyzelement 1y agoNeither. I am an open minded individual who's traveled the world, and am a dual citizen, highly educated, highly intelligent and successful:) And naturally I was a Democrat through 2016, but as Democrats moved left they left me behind on a lot of issues. And then the fact that your side is now like "you are evil or stupid if you don't agree with us" (eg your post) makes any re-engagement impossible. You seem like a really thoughtful person from your non political posting history but this is clearly such a trigger topic. I know it's not just you but it's really unattractive.
- duped 1y agoWhat issues do you feel left behind on? And why do you think the Democratic Party has moved left on them? The mistake I think you're making is that people want to reengage with the fascists that call themselves Republicans or that their political beliefs are legitimate. Your party is letting an authoritarian president tear our rule of law, customs, institutions, economy, and people apart - and it gets worse everyday. There is no engagement with the insanity that is MAGA. If you just want an example, I have many friends and family who are gay or trans. Republicans don't believe they should be allowed to exist, and at the extreme ends, advocate violence against them. Why should I pretend that there's any engagement possible on that angle, when one "side" is inherently violent?
- xyzelement 1y agoAs I alluded to in my prior comment - the fact that you are so ready to call people insane fascists (or in prior post, dumb or evil) is the end of the conversation. Wherever you live in the US, at least 1 out of 3 of your neighbors voted for Trump. That's a lot of random people to call fascist.
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- afpx 1y agoImmigration is great when it's done at the right pace. The pace of the last 10 years has been jarring. It's counterproductive at this point just because of the extra cognitive load alone. Can we take a 20 year break then start it back up slowly? And, economically, I think it'll be fine. Won't it be great for the rest of the world to share in the economic success of the US? I'm looking forward to a day when most nations have their own bay area.
- habinero 1y ago> extra cognitive load alone I don't know what dogwhistle this is supposed to be. There's no "cognitive load" in things other people do that you aren't involved with.
- afpx 1y agoHere's a regular occurrence for me: I took my daughter to shop for clothes at Target. She picked out an outfit and wanted to try it on but it was in a pack and needed to be separated first. I found a clerk and asked her to separate it. But, the clerk didn't speak English - only Spanish. So, she took me to another clerk. But, that clerk also didn't speak English - only Arabic. And, neither could talk to each other. If that's not societal "cognitive load", what is it? These are just the harmless occurrences. I could go on to much more alarming examples, but I won't.
- xyzelement 1y agoThis is such a good example. I was recently talking to an appliance repair company and the fact that the woman spoke good English is now a remarkable thing. Like it really stood out!
- zuminator 1y agoSurely there is a way to implement a "taking a break" policy without purposely squalid concentration camps, extradition to random gulags, sudden capricious fees, legions of masked shock troops, and the like?
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- tomhow 1y agoEschew flamebait. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45313510 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45313510 and marked it off topic.