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After 50 years, The Magic Circle finally inducts Penn and Teller
- jmclnx 1y agoGood to see. I never got their act, so I never really watched them, but my relatives thought they were great. Anyway, I did like and enjoy their performance in Babylon 5.
- dylan604 1y agoWouldn't that be "I never really watched them, so I never got their act"? How could you ever expect to get anything you never watch?
- actionfromafar 1y agoThey never caught my attention either. Clearly very talented, but not my cup of tea. Maybe it could be an acquired taste, but I'll leave that FOMO on the floor.
- jmclnx 1y agoWhen I visited my relatives, if they were on the TV we would watch them. edit: meant for dylan604 :)
- jjj123 1y ago“Never really watched them” doesn’t mean “never watched them even once”. Penn and teller had a TV show, so it could mean they caught an episode or two and weren’t into it (which, same).
- SapporoChris 1y agoThere are many things that cannot be directly observed but can be understood.
- wbl 1y agoThe balls and cups with transparent cups is stunning.
- JKCalhoun 1y agoYep, it was probably what pissed off the Magic Circle. https://youtu.be/i0m8CC7Ovj8 https://youtu.be/i0m8CC7Ovj8
- adastra22 1y agoThe Magic Circle absolutely does not like revealing the trick. Penn and Teller are all about revealing the trick. They see it more or less as their moral duty to make sure you know THERE IS NO MAGIC HERE. I've always respected them a great amount for that. I'm glad that The Magic Circle finally came around.
- TiredOfLife 1y agoTeller has sued at least one magician for revealing Tellers trick
- agos 1y agoI think it was because they sold the secret as theirs, not for revealing
- the_af 1y agoDo they reveal "novel" tricks they didn't create? It's one thing to reveal standards like the cups and ball, but another entirely different to spoil a recent trick a living magician is still making money off. I don't think they do the latter. The balls and cups with transparent cups is still amazing, by the way.
- adastra22 1y agoThey do not reveal other, living magician's tricks.
- domoregood 1y agohttps://archive.is/v7PEM https://archive.is/v7PEM
- mjcarden 1y agoI'm having trouble getting my head around an interview with Teller. We all know he doesn't speak. :)
- browningstreet 1y agoHe speaks at the end of the movie “Penn & Teller Get Killed”.
- jacquesm 1y ago4:15... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jko5BGhc-Ys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jko5BGhc-Ys
- freetime2 1y agoHere's a talk he did at Google where he talks at length: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJRIkTHqTSE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJRIkTHqTSE
- philiplu 1y agoHe has a speaking role in an old 1987 baseball movie, "Long Gone", with William Petersen and Virginia Madsen, as the son in a father/son partnership who own a minor league team (Henry Gibson was the dad). Very disorienting to hear him talk when I first saw the movie way back when.
- tcoop25 1y agoIf you go to any of their shows in Vegas, he hangs out after the show and talks with the fans. Felt very weird talking to him.
- arkmm 1y agoUnfortunately I think they have stopped doing this since COVID.
- mark-r 1y agoMaybe Vegas is different, but I saw them just a couple of weeks ago. They were doing a 50th anniversary performance at the place they did their first show together, the Minnesota Renaissance Festival. They hung around in the crowd for at least 20 minutes after the show, talking and letting people get selfies.
- Yhippa 1y agoThese guys are something else. I remember seeing them on Scooby Doo when I was a kid growing up. Their Vegas show is great. I’ve seen several magic shows and specials on TV, but the way they ran the whole thing and let you inspect the stage was super cool.
- the_af 1y agoPenn and Teller: Fool Us is amazing. I went on a binge a year or so ago, watching everything there was to watch on YouTube (which is a lot). I love how genuinely enthusiastic and encouraging of lesser known magicians they are. Always willing to celebrate their strengths instead of mocking them for their failures. And they are excellent magicians, too. My respect for Penn also went up after he realized his hardcore libertarian position was untenable. It was nice seeing him grow out of it.
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- wbl 1y agoMy favorite episode had a magician do a great act about reading the paper, and all these terrible things spilled out and then he closed it, reopened it and good things spilled out. Penn and Teller of course recognized a zombie and a twilight seance but went out of their way to say how moving and entertaining they found the act.
- x______________ 1y ago>I went on a binge a year or so ago I did the same a few years ago and it was one of the few series that kept me hooked, trying to figure out how the contestants try to fool Penn and Teller. I'll need to revisit for some newer episodes that I may have missed.. A bit off topic but no one else brought up Penn's great acting as Hal the system admin in Hackers (1995), a classic movie that everyone should be familiar with (and if not, worth checking out!).
- brutal_chaos_ 1y agoI think we gotta hacker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2OYNMO_mNw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2OYNMO_mNw (first 20-30sec)
- iambateman 1y agoThe show Fool Us is wonderful…and this clip in particular is my favorite: https://youtu.be/5_KcQt0z-eE?si=xO5gTByzV0spzS2e https://youtu.be/5_KcQt0z-eE?si=xO5gTByzV0spzS2e
- gkoberger 1y agoEven if you never want to practice magic, I highly recommend buying a few Dani DaOrtiz lectures. The way his mind works is phenomenal, and the things he talks about (psychology, how people think, crafting experiences) are applicable across the board. (I rarely perform his tricks... they're brilliant, but they're so perfectly suited for his style that I can't even come close to pulling them off without seeming like a confused idiot. But I love watching him explain what goes into each trick. This specific trick is available on Vanishing.)
- iambateman 1y agoI’ll check it out! I’ve watched hundreds of tricks on Fool Us and the moment I watched his act I was stunned. Just absolutely beautiful performance.
- hibikir 1y agoHe has a youtube channel where he performs most of the tricks in his courses (just not how to do them). After you watch for a while, you realize that he can get great effects out of moves that don't even take significant sleight of hand: He might be doing the most blatant manipulation in the middle of some comedy bits that make it invisible to anyone engrossed in the performance. Now, that specific Fool Us performance has moves most magicians cannot pull off, but still, a large percentage of the act involves his standard slew of tricks to put a lot of randomness where it doesn't matter, while there is no randomness near the cards that matter.
- 7thpower 1y agoI was only half way paying attention because I was enjoying the joy of everyone around him. I wonder if it will hold up the next time I watch. I keep notes for my daughters to read some day and wrote about this tonight (it’s been too long since I wrote them), I hope this video will still be around when they are ready to read the notes so they can experience it too.
- danpalmer 1y agoGreat to hear. I'll never forget running into Teller in the lobby of a small show I went to that he was also in the audience for. I sheepishly asked for an autograph and he was very friendly and gracious (and spoke!).
- vanderZwan 1y agoDid the speaking ruin some of the magic, or did it make the experience even more special?
- danpalmer 1y agoMore special definitely.
- simondotau 1y agoThere's plenty of video of Teller speaking. Being mute is a stage performance thing, not a mystical lifestyle choice.
- adastra22 1y agoExample (and an interesting talk by the way): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5x14AwElOk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5x14AwElOk
- buu700 1y agoIt's interesting how that went from a cool magic trick demonstration to a profound lesson on human nature and manipulation tactics.
- vanderZwan 1y agoSo? It's still similar to meeting the actor playing a favorite character in a movie or series. Some people prefer to never stop suspending their disbelief and that's also fine.
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- Onavo 1y agoI am not sure why they even bother...they are at the top of their fields and they are household names in America that are synonymous with magic. Not since Houdini has there been such famous magicians in show biz. The professional organizations should be naming prizes after them instead of them begging to be part of the in-group. You don't see Bill Gates, Jobs, or Torvalds begging to join the IEEE.
- mjlawson 1y agoI think the difference here is that Penn and Teller are just as much historians of magic as they are magicians themselves. Accepting the honor is also accepting that the history is still relevant and worth celebrating. Making this into an ego thing misses the point a bit, I think.
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- whizzter 1y agoKeeping them out might have been due to some oldtimer in the organization that couldn't let go of the "never reveal secrets" gospel, whilst newer members at the top recognize that with todays social medias the cat's truly out of the bag and alienating the biggest household names is just counter-productive. I think they've also seen that American Wrestling seems to be doing fine even if the entire fakeness is out in the open.
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- jkmcf 1y agoGives me Rush vibes when Rolling Stone finally put them on the cover 41 years, 19 albums, and millions of sales and sold out tours later. Not to mention the R&R HOF…
- ohyes 1y agoThe thing I really love about magic is that so much of it boils down to “I practiced for years and developed a seemingly superhuman ability to manipulate this object”. I really relate to this because despite being at least ostensibly “gifted” my entire academic career, almost all of my professional success has been because I have been willing to climb steep learning curves at the expense of hours of my life and extreme frustration. In short, I can relate because I too practice a type of “up close” magic which few people can even appreciate.
- gkoberger 1y ago“Sometimes magic is just someone spending more time on something than anyone else might reasonably expect.” - Teller
- JdeBP 1y agoKostya Kimlat comes to mind.
- troupo 1y agoThose beady little eyes! https://youtu.be/SCFXV6o7cro?si=T7TCSHAkHvkcI2SX https://youtu.be/SCFXV6o7cro?si=T7TCSHAkHvkcI2SX
- JdeBP 1y agoI can just reiterate my prior comment: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCFXV6o7cro&lc=UgyhehHF9YBGFe4d93d4AaABAg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCFXV6o7cro&lc=UgyhehHF9YBGF... (-: For M. Kimlat's own commentary and someone else's particularly insightful comment: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49CSV2w0i0g&lc=UgxqIy_Vgt37qmv6ZlR4AaABAg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49CSV2w0i0g&lc=UgxqIy_Vgt37q... For the time spent on prep for the second appearance: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5VTb7fesN4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5VTb7fesN4
- theshrike79 1y agoFYI the si= part is a unique tracker added by Google to track who clicks the link you shared. You can, and should, remove it to not give their graph more data about you.
- iancmceachern 1y agoGood for them, they deserve it
- thehappypm 1y agoDoes anyone have a good recommendation for a video to watch of their magic? Preferably something that’s a longer form, like something on Netflix or prime video
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- Cogito 1y agoThey have a MasterClass® class that you might like if you have an account (or if you don't!) https://www.masterclass.com/classes/penn-and-teller-teach-the-art-of-magic https://www.masterclass.com/classes/penn-and-teller-teach-th...
- schlauerfox 1y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2souL3UxLtg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2souL3UxLtg This is a pretty good example of their prime. They play in Vegas, so in person is always worthwhile.
- em-bee 1y agowatching this particular episode one might get the impression they are just trying to make fun of other magicians...
- the_af 1y agoOn Fool Us they do their own acts as well. And what's remarkable to me is how nice they are to the other magicians, how willing to help and celebrate them, never heckle them. These are genuinely cool guys.
- em-bee 1y agoyes, fool us is remarkably different. but then, the whole show is designed to showcase and celebrate others. that older show wasn't. it's like they have grown up.
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- tquinn 1y agoI enjoyed their live show very much in Las Vegas. It looks like they are currently touring. I would check them out if get a chance.
- alex1138 1y agoIt would be remiss not to mention James Randi as well, who while being a magician also had a career exposing genuine fraudsters (who wanted you to take them seriously, unlike Randi's magic)
- bityard 1y agoHa. I'll see your genuine fraudsters and raise you an authentic counterfeit.
- bsder 1y agoAnd James Randi was a role model for Penn.
- TiredOfLife 1y agoThere is a documentary "An Honest Liar" about him. It goes to unexpected places
- owlninja 1y agoGood for them! They bucked plenty of the "rules of magic", but no doubt inspired another generation somewhere. I hope the craft never dies.
- ongy 1y agoWhat does 'bucked' mean in this context?
- mock-possum 1y agoLike a ‘bucking bronco,’ a horse kicking high and trying to throw off its rider - you ‘buck’ something to get it off of you, to get it off your back, to shake it off, to get out from under it. You might also see it in ‘bucking a trend.’ So it means “to act against” / “to escape from” the rules.
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