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The "treat yourself to a donut" suggestion got me. Sure, eat a donut, completely negating the caloric burn of the 30 minutes of aerobics you're motivating/rewar

The "treat yourself to a donut" suggestion got me. Sure, eat a donut, completely negating the caloric burn of the 30 minutes of aerobics you're motivating/rewarding yourself for.

watters 1y ago
For plenty of already-in-shape people, the calories expended during the exercise are largely incidental, with the goal of exercise being to enhance or maintain some other property of their physical capacity.
IncreasePosts 1y ago
You'll still have improved cardiovascular fitness even if you aren't losing weight. Any ways, a lot of studies have shown your body has a variety of methods that attempt to counteract excess calories burned, like reduction in non-exercise activity thermogenesis.
Nifty3929 1y ago
I'll disagree slightly, though clearly you are correct that if your goal is to offset calories, then eating a donut negates the benefits of the exercise activity. My disagreement is that I think exercise should not primarily be about calories - it should be about fitness. And almost all of the fitness gains from exercise persist even if you replace the calories with a donut. Exercising for 30min and then relacing those spent calories with donuts is FAR better than not exercising and forgoing those extra calories.
- Melatonic 1y ago
  Exactly - and on top of that being super extra lean (for vanity purposes) is often actually detrimental to real world performance anyways. There's a balance to everything. Of course this assumes that in addition to the single donut the rest of your diet is decent - if you're eating shit all day then you are asking for an injury
stronglikedan 1y ago
that not how it works. that's not how any of this works. the aerobics build up muscle that will always be burning calories by merely existing. a donut here and there won't make a negligible difference, as long as the weekly aerobic activity level is maintained.
- zanellato19 1y ago
  Eeeh. Exercise doesn't spend enough energy for high calories foods to be worth it. If you want to lose weight that is. A donut is a lot of exercise and muscle building leads to a small but not sufficient calorie spend. The majority of calorie spend still comes from the organs and general body maintenance
  - reducesuffering 1y ago
    > Exercise doesn't spend enough energy for high calories foods to be worth it. If you want to lose weight that is. Tell that to all the lean 150 pound / 68kg runners stuffing their faces with high calorie foods all the time.
    - zanellato19 1y ago
      _Athletes_ are completely different from the normal people looking to exercise. Can you spend 4 hours of your day exercising?
      - paulpauper 1y ago
        If you are single and short commute, it is doable. People spend hours watching TV, looking at phone.
        zanellato19 1y ago
        I don't think it's reasonable. That becomes basically the only thing to do outside of work. Highly unlikely at the very least.

The "treat yourself to a donut" suggestion got me. Sure, eat a donut, completely negating the caloric burn of the 30 minutes of aerobics you're motivating/rewarding yourself for.

watters 1y ago

For plenty of already-in-shape people, the calories expended during the exercise are largely incidental, with the goal of exercise being to enhance or maintain some other property of their physical capacity.

IncreasePosts 1y ago

You'll still have improved cardiovascular fitness even if you aren't losing weight. Any ways, a lot of studies have shown your body has a variety of methods that attempt to counteract excess calories burned, like reduction in non-exercise activity thermogenesis.

Nifty3929 1y ago

I'll disagree slightly, though clearly you are correct that if your goal is to offset calories, then eating a donut negates the benefits of the exercise activity. My disagreement is that I think exercise should not primarily be about calories - it should be about fitness. And almost all of the fitness gains from exercise persist even if you replace the calories with a donut. Exercising for 30min and then relacing those spent calories with donuts is FAR better than not exercising and forgoing those extra calories.

Melatonic 1y ago
Exactly - and on top of that being super extra lean (for vanity purposes) is often actually detrimental to real world performance anyways. There's a balance to everything. Of course this assumes that in addition to the single donut the rest of your diet is decent - if you're eating shit all day then you are asking for an injury

stronglikedan 1y ago

that not how it works. that's not how any of this works. the aerobics build up muscle that will always be burning calories by merely existing. a donut here and there won't make a negligible difference, as long as the weekly aerobic activity level is maintained.

zanellato19 1y ago
Eeeh. Exercise doesn't spend enough energy for high calories foods to be worth it. If you want to lose weight that is. A donut is a lot of exercise and muscle building leads to a small but not sufficient calorie spend. The majority of calorie spend still comes from the organs and general body maintenance
- reducesuffering 1y ago
  > Exercise doesn't spend enough energy for high calories foods to be worth it. If you want to lose weight that is. Tell that to all the lean 150 pound / 68kg runners stuffing their faces with high calorie foods all the time.
  - zanellato19 1y ago
    _Athletes_ are completely different from the normal people looking to exercise. Can you spend 4 hours of your day exercising?
    - paulpauper 1y ago
      If you are single and short commute, it is doable. People spend hours watching TV, looking at phone.
      - zanellato19 1y ago
        I don't think it's reasonable. That becomes basically the only thing to do outside of work. Highly unlikely at the very least.