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Microsoft to force install the Microsoft 365 Copilot app in October
- dramm 1y agoMicrosoft software gavage, and we are the geese.
- gnabgib 1y agoLess clickbait coverage from ghacks: Copilot App will install automatically on Windows for many users, but there are exceptions https://www.ghacks.net/2025/09/15/copilot-app-will-install-automatically-on-windows-for-many-users-but-there-are-exceptions/ https://www.ghacks.net/2025/09/15/copilot-app-will-install-a... (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45249782 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45249782) Notably: - You can opt out (Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Copilot > Enable the "Turn off Windows Copilot" policy) - You won't get it if you're in the EU - You'll only get it if you have an M365 app installed (not all windows users)
- RajT88 1y agoA clean windows install these days comes with those apps. It is there by default. I would swear I removed copilot from a Dell laptop I just purchased for my father, and it came back after a major update. I could be wrong.
- WarOnPrivacy 1y ago> I would swear I removed copilot from a Dell laptop I just purchased for my father, and it came back after a major update. I could be wrong. I've had feature-update crapware get reinstalled twice, some reinsallations happen only after a reboot and/or 5-10min delay. So upgrade, clean. Reboot, clean again. Reboot, wait 10 min, clean again. This during the last year and for dozens of machines.
- RajT88 1y agoOneDrive is very persistent. Every major upgrade seems like. Didn't they get hauled in front of congress for stuff like this back in the 90's? I feel like they are playing with fire. Once anti-trust comes back into vogue, this is going to be big trouble for them.
- dabockster 1y agoOneDrive is a love/hate relationship for me. Yeah, it’s invasive. But it’s private [1], secure, and cheap (relatively) file storage. And very few of its competitors integrate into Windows Explorer in the way OneDrive does (even though the APIs are all there for everyone to use). [1] OneDrive privacy confirmed by my own consumer complaint to the Washington State Office of the Attorney General over ambiguities related to AI training and general privacy in Microsoft’s documentation. Both my complaint and Microsoft’s official response are subject to public record and can be legally actionable in the future.
- RajT88 1y agoI'd love to read more about it - I have privacy concerns about ever giving anything personal over to Microsoft. Can you link those?
- dabockster 1y agoThe WA AG's office doesn't typically post that stuff in a searchable format online. You'd have to run a public records request. But I guarantee it's there in some form.
- sherburt3 1y ago4 levels of nesting is pretty low compared to the average windows setting
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- ndiddy 1y agoI don’t think it’s clickbait to say that Microsoft is forcing Copilot onto people’s computers just because they let you opt out if you know exactly where to go in the group policy editor, or that they know they can’t get away with pushing their AI service over Windows Update to force adoption in areas that actually bother regulating tech companies. I’m tired of Microsoft pulling bullshit like this and then people say “oh but you can turn it off if you dig through the group policy editor” or “you can opt out if you make this specific registry key”. Maybe I don’t enjoy having an adversarial relationship with my computer.
- _j87n 1y agoIt's only "your" computer insofar that you're the only person using it.
- IAmBroom 1y agoWell, assuming your AV software is updated and active.
- scuff3d 1y agoMicrosoft is constantly trying to push the envelope to see what they can get away with. Anyone defending this kind of crap hasn't been paying attention for the last 20 friggin years
- ThrowawayR2 1y agoIt's "your computer" but it's "their OS". Go ahead and switch to Linux but the "systemd / snap packages / telementry etc. is being forced on my distro" complaints is exactly the same "adversarial relationship with my computer"(sic). If you want things exactly your way, there's the Gentoo route if you don't mind supporting it yourself.
- KronisLV 1y agoI feel like one could imagine some hypothetical Linux distro that works out of the box, has some baseline level of coherency and polish without you having to get your hands dirty, and also hasn’t been enshittified. I have no idea what distro fits the bill the best, but surely it’s not like the only two options are: “be treated with no respect as the user” and “sink all of your time into into fixing things up” Like how Linux Mint doesn’t force snaps on you like Ubuntu does. Probably not it, but one step of many in the right direction. Plain Debian is probably pretty close.
- currency 1y agoThat setting is under User Configuration on my Win11 Pro PC, so look in both.
- oeitho 1y agoQuick correction: You won't get it if you're in the EEA, which the EU is a subset of. Sincerely, a Norwegian guy who thinks the difference is important.
- croes 1y agoIt’s not you can opt-out, it‘s you have to opt-out. Imagine every software vendor would install its software as a opt-out. MS abuses its power over the OS
- sorokod 1y ago"The strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must."
- redbell 1y ago> You won't get it if you're in the EU I'm dreaming of a day to come where all people on earth get a bare minimum of freedom to install, remove and disable whatever piece of software on their devices. As a non-EU citizen, I have to confess I'm having some jealous feeling of European citizens because they have a superior authority fighting big companies on behalf of them.
- eastbound 1y agoYou may benefit from a non-socialist economy. I pay my best engineer 60k€, so 39.9 after tax, total cost 90k€ for me, and he couldn’t find an MD (the dedicated family doctor - so he has to pay any doctor with a 15€ surplus). In exchange, we go to the Theater (classic, not movies) for 30€ and we don’t have Copilot on our computer. We don’t have the translation on Airpods, and we have to click all cookie banners. If I had a visa for the USA, I’d be there.
- IAmBroom 1y ago> he has to pay any doctor with a 15€ surplus That's the fee charged for giving you aspirin in a US hospital. I can't imagine why you think his US medical access would be better.
- sillyfluke 1y ago>we go to the Theater (classic, not movies) for 30€ Now do broadway in New York. Hell, do off-broadway in new york and it's either barely the same price or even more expensive. Are you sarcastically making the opposite point, I can't tell.
- mrguyorama 1y ago>he has to pay any doctor with a 15€ surplus Which is less than the co-pay you pay on good US insurance. >I pay my best engineer 60k€ Why don't you pay them more?
- netdevphoenix 1y agoIs that not relative? You could also ask Meta why they don't pay all the top engineers 100 times more. And the reason in both cases would be the same, it's not sustainable for the business. I often find Americans on here judging salaries from the point of view of an American economy which to me makes no sense. You can't expect an economy 100 times smaller than yours to pay its workers the same salary that you pay yours.
- jcalvinowens 1y agoNow that Steam has Proton, my only remaining need for windows has evaporated. Good riddance.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y agoThink Steam proton will support GTA VI? I doubt it since it still doesn't support GTA V online
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 1y agoI wish it was the same for me. Nucleus coop is windows only and so many mods work only there,so I still need windows for gaming. I'm with you though ,I wish I could completely swap
- voidfunc 1y agoProton's good-ish. But if you want to play a lot of AAA games it's a non-starter especially if they have invasive kernel anti-cheat.
- philipwhiuk 1y agoThis is a great sign that uptake is low and someone needs a good Q4 on their performance figures for bonus season.
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- ToucanLoucan 1y agoI hear constantly how in-demand this shit supposedly is and then every time I look around a corner LLMs are being stuffed into every damn thing and I'm left wondering how much of this alleged "engagement" is just because LLMs are in fucking everything now and it's impossible to run a lot of mainstream software without a few calls going to one or another of them. I have never, ever, in my entire life, seen a tech work so hard to be everywhere while simultaneously not being very useful.
- flerchin 1y agolol you must be new here. To me this rhymes with web3 (kodak coin), web2 (google circle), and also web1 (pets.com). There will be a lot of failures, but the companies that get established in the space will be eeconomic goliaths.
- nemomarx 1y agowhat are the goliaths from web3? I feel like that one still hasn't really worked out, and I do occasionally use Bitcoin to buy things
- ToucanLoucan 1y agoI really enjoyed that comment because if you read it in reverse, each subsequent "big thing" has had fewer and fewer goliaths emerge. In terms of web3, I think you could broadly say Bitcoin (though it was large before web3 so that one's muddy) and Etherium. But even then... given what they are, I'm not sure in what sense these are meant to be Goliaths...? It's alternative payment processors that have incredibly low adoption compared to virtually every other. They're "big" in the sense that they have a lot of traction relative to other crypto, but I still have never used the shit even once and I do not feel I am missing out even slightly. I've used LLMs FAR more than any crypto, and I still see it largely as a neat way to get out of writing boring code, and a good rubber duck to bounce ideas off of when debugging. I wouldn't pay for it if I had to. The only thing I know crypto for is being the new and preferred payment method for scammers, and that you used to be able to buy drugs with it but not anymore. And godawful avatar collections, I guess. I wouldn't call that a Goliath myself but. shrug
- lenerdenator 1y agoHuh. I have a force install of GNU/Linux on my Windows machine scheduled for October as well. That's a weird coincidence.
- hagbard_c 1y agoThe harder they squeeze... I installed Linux - Debian 13 with the Gnome desktop - on a few machines which used to only run Windows. These machines are used by non-technical family members aged 14 to 50. When starting the machine they get the choice between booting either Debian or Windows with files on the older Windows installs being available from within the Linux sessions. I recently checked which system was used most and was surprised to see that this ended up being Debian, on some machines Windows was not even started after I explained the workings of the machines. Linux has been 'ready for the desktop' for decades now while Microsoft is doing its best to make Windows less and less suitable for general-purpose desktop use. Even their former strongholds have withered, especially gaming is now better done on Linux than on recent Windows iterations. I suspect they know this and are trying to reap the last remaining fruit before the plantation succumbs to the self-inflicted disease since I see no other explanation for their clearly user-hostile actions.
- tracker1 1y agoI agree that Linux has been fine for Desktop use for most people for some while. With two caveats, the user doesn't want to install random AAA competitive multiplayer games, and the user doesn't have to administer the system themselves.
- b_e_n_t_o_n 1y agoLife is too short to use Windows...
- rochak 1y agoPreach. I’m also more of a balcony enjoyer.
- blindriver 1y agoI had resisted upgrading to Windows 11 and was just on the cusp of doing it, but now I will never, ever upgrade. I don't care about security aspect of Windows 10 anymore. I don't trust Microsoft. They had a few good years after Nadella joined where they were doing decent things but now they have resumed their monopolistic behavior and shoving things down our throats like Recall and this shit and I'm done with it. I'll switch to MacOS before I upgrade to Windows 11.
- stronglikedan 1y agoIf, in MacOS, I can drag a file onto a taskbar icon to open the file in whatever program I dropped it on, then I too will switch to that before Win11. I can't believe MS removed functionality in Win11 that is part of the daily workflows of so many users, and just said "GFY, we're never putting it back!"
- racl101 1y agoYep you can drag a file onto the doc on an app icon to have the app in question open the file (assuming it was meant to run that file). I gotta say, I'm not a Windows user anymore, but it would drive me nuts if I couldn't do that. Finder (the MacOS version of File Explorer on Windows) is an app you commonly interact with every day for several minutes. If it doesn't work well that's hours of your life you spend fighting the system instead of getting things done. Those are the kinds of things that made me move away from Windows 10 years ago.
- mikestew 1y agoIf, in MacOS, I can drag a file onto a taskbar icon to open the file in whatever program I dropped it on... MacOS already does that. You're not going to drag a video file to the spreadsheet app icon with much success, but if the app knows how to handle it then it will work. I can't imagine using an OS these days that doesn't have that functionality.
- jtmarl1n 1y agoI'm a little surprised to see this use case as so important, there are a couple other comments agreeing with you. Out of curiosity, why is this particular feature that important to you? Why is this flow better than double clicking the file or opening the program first and then opening the file? Again, not trying to disagree, just curious to understand.
- 1970-01-01 1y agoThey're slipping it past you. Nobody is forcing you to install the update. Nuance.
- polski-g 1y agoI disabled all Windows updates last October because 24H2 absolutely tanked performance of games. Various reports around the internet claim that its still a problem. So no more updates for me, of any kind.
- KronisLV 1y agoI once wrote a blog post called “Never update anything” about how updates suck, but even so I would just deal with it, because you probably want the security fixes.
- medlazik 1y agoAbout 30 critical RCEs since oct 24, botnet operators adore you
- Krssst 1y agoMore than them, they should adore companies whose updates come with unwanted features and fresh new bugs that lead to this behavior. I have never been afraid of Debian stable / Fedora updates but I am always weary of Windows and Android updates.
- ipaddr 1y agoTell that to my windows 7 unpatched for about 20 years now. Those botnets are collecting devices with default passwords.
- pixl97 1y agoNa, someone probably already p0wn3d your box and is installing updates in the background so they don't lose control of it.
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- nashashmi 1y agoMeanwhile I am still getting charged for the app even though it is part of my subscription.
- Fischgericht 1y agoOMG, the bloody marxist Europeans AGAIN limiting the freedom of choice and free speech of American mega-corps!!1ONEohenee :)
- lupusreal 1y agoYou know it's great software when they shove it down your throat instead of making you pay extra for it.
- 1970-01-01 1y ago"Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will have to ram it down their throats." https://libquotes.com/howard-h-aiken/quote/lbz3l3x https://libquotes.com/howard-h-aiken/quote/lbz3l3x
- lupusreal 1y agoSure, maybe, but Anthropic and OpenAI are selling theirs.
- kjkjadksj 1y agoTo any microsoft workers: is this stuff really getting zero pushback internally? It is clear power users don’t want it and that is sort of who copilot is pitched towards vs the masses.
- mikestew 1y agoWhat makes you think the Windows group gives a shit about what some random in DevTools thinks about their product? There's probably all kinds of internal pushback, but I would question how much straw polling is being done.
- protoster 1y agoLast time MS cared about power users was in Windows 7.
- nobody9999 1y ago>To any microsoft workers: is this stuff really getting zero pushback internally? It is clear power users don’t want it and that is sort of who copilot is pitched towards vs the masses. I imagine (based on my experiences as a now-former MS employee) that someone's (or some group's) bonus is tied to the number of Copilot seats installed. Which makes them oblivious/uncaring as to who might push back or how a user might feel. That's muh bonus, brah! And since CoPilot is high profile, it's gets lots of support from the C-suite, limiting meaningful pushback. And here we are. I suggest learning to use gpedit if you don't already know how. But don't worry, once bonuses are handed out, those same geniuses will find some other high profile initiative to boost their comp and level. Then we'll see some other square peg destructively jammed into a round hole.
- zer0zzz 1y agoIf they are uninstallable why is this such a big deal? Isn’t there some popular powershell script around they removes all the stuff?
- BizarroLand 1y agoFlyoobe can remove it, but if you have updates enabled either in windows update or in the Microsoft Store app they come back over and over again. I'll include the link because it does help: https://github.com/builtbybel/Flyoobe/releases https://github.com/builtbybel/Flyoobe/releases
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- the_snooze 1y agoThere's something exhausting about having to fight against a tool that's constantly trying to undermine your intentions.
- IAmGraydon 1y agoThis is also the case with OneDrive. Constant "updates", after which each time it tries to trick you into letting it siphon off all of your files. I'm about over it. My only hangup at this point is that Ableton Live doesn't run on Linux and I can't live without it. I may consider replacing it with Bitwig 6 when it's released, which is Linux native.
- zer0zzz 1y agoFair. This sort of thing is why I only use it for steam .
- Insanity 1y agoAt some point I'm sure they'll force Microsoft Recall on everyone. But they'll do so piecemeal so there's less outrage.
- BuildTheRobots 1y agoWe get Copilot at work. From what I can see the Copilot app is just the Copilot web interface in its own container and webview, though I've not gone poking at it. Considering the web page in a browser can easily eat >5gb RAM just to display a single conversation (it's honestly mind boggling; how can something use 5gb of memory and a noticeable amount of CPU just to display relatively little and lightly formatted text?), having it self-contained makes killing it to reclaim memory easy. For those of you wanting to get more angry, the "menu key" on my new Thinkpad has the default action of Copilot and the Copilot logo printed on it. On the other hand, he Ctrl key is finally in the -r-i-g-h-t- left place at least...
- dade_ 1y agoWeb app is faster, has more features, easier to use. Copilot key is useless, it took me a while to figure out how to get it to open the M365 app, instead of the corporate blocked personal one, and then I used it zero times. Never think to use it and I found it has no practical purpose, except Microsoft marketing.
- BuildTheRobots 1y agoInteresting. It prompted me to install the microsoft store version which, when launched manually is identical to the web version. As the keyboard key brought up a web window telling me to install it, I assumed it just launched that.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 1y agoBrother, I feel you on the thinkpad Ctrl key. I cannot understand how someone thought that was an acceptable idea.
- SSLy 1y agoat least it has forever been swappable with fn
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- parasti 1y agoWhat's Microsoft thinking here? We got Windows on our kids' laptops and it's a pain to do anything with every time, just an amalgamation of decades worth of UIs held together with duct tape, looks terrible and performs even worse than it looks. When I'm thinking of the next big upgrade, Windows isn't even on the list of options anymore, and that's not even an ideological statement in any way.
- mips_avatar 1y agoWindows exists to perpetuate the next promotion cycle of people working inside of Windows.
- yieldcrv 1y ago> What's Microsoft thinking here? An upsell and way to justify their 3 trillion marketcap
- crinkly 1y agoThinking? Plan? Only thing going on is maximising capital extraction from the moat they created. End users no longer matter as long as the numbers keep going up.
- BoredPositron 1y agoMicrosoft has spent the past two decades repositioning Windows from a flagship operating system into primarily a delivery vehicle for cloud services, subscriptions, and integrated apps. They are just not interested in providing the user with an OS anymore. For them it's a necessary evil nothing more.
- pixl97 1y agoSimply put the economics are behind a locked down click and drool style operating system with a manufacture controlled store that takes 30% of all gross. The faster we can kill the Apple and Google store monopolies the faster we'll go back to having operating systems/phones that we can at least do something with. We still have Linux for now, but as we know signed bootloaders present a very large risk.
- tracker1 1y agoI keep shutting the stupid thing off.
- dade_ 1y agoMy work PC has the app, because but like Onedrive and NewOutlook, the Windows app has fewer features, more bugs, and is more difficult to use that the Web app. At this rate Linux with Microsoft Web apps will have superior feature set than their 'Native' Windows apps.
- AfterHIA 1y agoI miss those innocent days in the early 2000's when Microsoft was still evil but the internet's non-ubiquity meant they couldn't realistically expect to force this kind of thing on their users. Reality is really in a bad place when kids who grew up listening to Franz Ferdinand are nostalgic for Windows Vista. It's like a Slovenian nostalgic for Tito.
- jamesfmilne 1y agoIf you find yourself needing to install Windows 11 for some reason (I'm doing my best to avoid it), you can try this to create a stripped-down Windows 11 installer with most of the crap removed: https://ntdotdev.wordpress.com/2025/09/06/tiny11-builder-september-2025-release/ https://ntdotdev.wordpress.com/2025/09/06/tiny11-builder-sep...
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- epanchin 1y agoI would love to see a chart of how long it takes windows to load by year. It power on instantly, and now it’s minutes. Bloat bloat bloat.
- ponector 1y agoIsn't it the same for pretty much any system nowadays? Some just since the issue by not shutting down, just some sort of sleep. I cannot power off my car, it only goes to sleep.
- chiffre01 1y agoBesides Excel, CAD/CAM programs and maybe games? Is there really a reason to use windows?
- rchaud 1y agoThat covers 90% of the use cases people purchase computers for. Everything else can be handled on a phone or tablet.
- ares623 1y agoHow many monthly “active” users is that? Must be time to trick the market again. “Look guys, AI demand is still growing!”
- gloosx 1y agoA man climbs the mountain to seek wisdom from the old sage. He bows and says: -- In October, Microsoft will force Microsoft 365 Copilot upon us all. The sage furrows his brow, strokes his beard, and replies: -- Tell me then... what the hell is Microsoft 365? A calendar?
- rchaud 1y agoI recently bought a mini laptop with an Intel N100 chip that came with W11 pre-installed. My work PC is running some enterprise LTS version of Windows 10, which feels barely any different from Windows from the past 15 years or so. Imagine my shock when I booted up W11. It felt like Bill Gates' wildest fantasies of vendor lock-in come to life, if the DOJ and EU cases never happened. A non-removable Edge icon on taskbar, Copilot bloat, lock screen widgets showing tabloid nonsense from MSN.com disguised as 'news'. Even the taskbar couldn't be oriented vertically! Thankfully I was able to install Linux on it (Aurora, based on Fedora) on a separate partition, and wifi, touchscreen, usb and other things work. I hadn't tried Linux at all in over 10 years, and was worried about bricking the machine. With W11 being this bad, it was more than worth it!
- sershe 1y agoI work for Microsoft so I get to/am forced to dogfood all the copilots. GitHub/VS copilot is great. Bing copilot is pretty good. For windows copilot I have no use case. 365 copilot, in my own personal humble opinion, is a steaming pile of garbage, and I think that is why they force it so much (the floating thing in excel, repeatedly pinning to taskbar after I remove it, removing the option to disable it via group policy, an obnoxious copilot box on top of new document, top of every context menu). People don't use it, and the reason people don't use it because it is terrible. It's the only, MSFT or otherwise , copilot that hallucinates its own work - says it made changes but no changes are made. On top of not being able to do much in the first place, especially with the typical tedious tasks like minor changes to many things at once; and mangling spreadsheets when it does do something.
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- Bendy 1y agoMicrosoft and its peers have become like a surface nuclear waste storage facility. The remains of something once useful now become dangerous, radioactive, an ever-growing parasitic burden on society, and yet must be continually supported lest there be grave consequences. Will they manage to reprocess themselves or be buried forever?
- otikik 1y agoThanks Microsoft for promoting Linux
- lucas_membrane 1y agoI've been using the free VSCode editor on linux, and it has recently started hinting that I ought to install some version of Copilot. I'm an old retired guy who just programs hobby stuff for myself, and I try to separate my leisure activities from the world of sordid materialism. I would rather not deal with AI, as I use my computing projects to track the normal decline of my mental abilities now in progress. I reason that Microsoft, or its github arm, wants to find some way to turn me into a revenue source by either requiring me to use something like that and then making it cost something, or requiring me to use something like that and then making me give them more information about myself in order to use it. How long until that happens?
- strogonoff 1y agoThe more people they get addicted to LLMs, the higher they can raise prices when they want to—not to mention, normalizing it makes them more likely to survive copyright infringement lawsuits. Microsoft has already used LLM integration to raise prices by force-upselling Copilot to M365 users[0], and of course they are still losing outrageous money on this tech every month. In a sense, recouping losses via price hikes is the best scenario. If good LLMs truly become as commodified as some people want everyone to believe (meaning MS and especially smaller VC-funded companies in the hypespace would not be able to profit as much as they need to break even), the avenues for financial gain become worse for us—think turning all generative ML-driven output into a two-sided marketplace, where advertisers get to pay them so that the growing generation’s future chatbot therapists inject whatever feelings help them sell more. [0] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVPThx7yss https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVPThx7yss
- wolvesechoes 1y agoThough complaints about Microsoft are valid, I am always baffled that the same people that complain about Windows getting worse in terms of privacy and user's control are then pointing to Google Docs and some SaaS crapware as an alternative that enables switch to Linux. Yeah, great, now you have an OS that respects you and you can delete every file in root directory, but use web apps that steal your data from you and you have 0 control over. What a win!
- science4sail 1y agoA lot of Hacker News posters work for Google and/or SaaS crapware companies. There's economic self interest at play here.
- kotaKat 1y agoMicrosoft employees, Why did you greenlight this rape of our computers once again?
- ulfw 1y agoSo much utter desperation to be relevant
- masfoobar 1y agoMy daughter was given a pretty nice laptop by her grandparents a few years ago. It came with Windows 10. I installed things like Gimp, Blender, FreeCAD... just to open her eyes on what she can do. She has used in sparingly. Recently, she comes up to me and says "Dad! I cannot run this program". I cannot remember what the message was but it was something about parents permissions. I did not set Windows up but she did not have this problem before. It looks like it had upgraded to Windows 11 and knows about that the main user is under a certain age. It must have installed things I have no agreed with, starting with Copilot. Once I saw Windows 11 on the screen I started to second guess what installing Windows 11 must be like today. Honestly I cannot remember the last time I did a full install of Windows. Maybe.. maybe Windows 7. I would not be surprised if you have to sign in to a Microsoft account, now. LOL! I told her that I would backup her work and install something else on there. I said it will look a little different but you should still be able to login to your homework, etc.. as it is all web based. Also.. I said that Gimp, Blender and FreeCAD can still be used. I explained that, at School, you are likely to be using Windows 11 and MS Office. At home, you will have something similar enough, like LibreOffice. With that I ended up installing Debian with GNOME and she really likes it. It has been 3 weeks, now -- and so far.. so good. Honestly, the way Microsoft are going.. I am just waiting for businesses to start mocking the idea of an alternative. That would be a massive shock... not just average joes switching on home machines.
- LtdJorge 1y agoYes, they force you to use a Microsoft account for W11. You can disable WiFi or disconmect the cable, and then it'll let you use a local account. Or you can use Rufus for "burning" the image, which creates an OOBE file for you disabling those (if you check the boxes).
- addandsubtract 1y agoWhile we're on the topic, I recommend anyone setting up Windows to use winutil[0] to disable and declutter their Windows installation. [0] https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil
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