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It's more the other two dimensions that I want shrunk. Did anyone think their phone was too thick to fit in their pocket?
by Nition 1y ago
It's more the other two dimensions that I want shrunk. Did anyone think their phone was too thick to fit in their pocket?
- moralestapia 1y ago>Hahahaha LMAO. Here's your upvote my friend. Back to reality, Apple sells close to 200 billion worth of iPhones per year, so yeah, maybe they know what they're doing?
- Nition 1y agoWe'll see. I wonder how well the Air will sell. I do understand the Mini didn't sell well, so I'm obviously not the average consumer.
- moralestapia 1y agoPeople underestimate what you can do with trillions of dollars at your disposal. They could build a small town with all things you can imagine, cars, cinemas, hospitals, schools, whatever then get people to live there for months and use whatever new device prototypes they plan to launch a year later, and have an army of analysts even looking at their damn micro-expressions each time they pick up their phones in different ways and all of that might come down to like 50 million a year, which is like 0.05% of their revenue. Apple is not anymore a startup where two/three guys make major decisions out of intuition (they ousted Ive because of that), again, this is a 2 trillion dollar company, they're not just vibing, lmao.
- cortesoft 1y agoYou have to sacrifice screen size to shrink the other dimensions, and they already have smaller screen iPhones. It seems most people care more about big screens than size in that dimension
- Nition 1y agoJust give me one good phone with a small screen please, and everyone else can buy one of the other 10,000 options with huge screens.
- krater23 1y agoTake the Unihertz Jelly Star. No I get not paid for advertising. I just be happy to have it found.
- xp84 1y agoDoes it have all the normal US bands? their site doesn't give much assurance, and they have a graphic with every non-US carrier's logo and no US carrier logos.
- cortesoft 1y agoApparently there is not enough of a market of people like you to make it worth manufacturing, sadly.
- amilios 1y agoThey don't have smaller screen iPhones anymore lol what? the iPhone 13 Mini is the last phone that can be in that category. Does anyone really think that 6.1 inches is a "small" device?
- Nition 1y agoThe 17 does technically have a smaller screen than the Air, but only by 0.2". Not exactly a small phone. They don't even have a 6.1" phone anymore - smallest now is going to be 6.3".
- cassianoleal 1y ago> they already have smaller screen iPhones. Not small enough to be worth the tradeoffs though.
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- CGMthrowaway 1y agoYes. In the era of slim pants.
- geoffeg 1y agoFunny, most of the people presenting on the event stream, especially women, were wearing very loose pants.
- refulgentis 1y agoOP is indicating that they felt the phone was too thick in a previous fashion era, that of tight pants. Loose is very very in
- jbverschoor 1y ago5 years too late
- badc0ffee 1y agoTim had some slim pants.
- nathanscully 1y agoI’m still holding onto my 12 mini wishing they would update it. Perfect size imo.
- dan353hehe 1y agoNo kidding. I just want one that I can use one handed again. I’m on the IPhone SE, have hands that can play an octave + 2 additional keys on a piano, and I can’t reach the whole screen with a single hand. I’m probably just holding it wrong.
- tines 1y agoYou can actually swipe down starting at the bottom third of the screen, and the top of the screen will move down so you can reach it with one hand.
- fujigawa 1y agoOr they can make the phone human-sized and not resort to software hacks to resolve poor ergonomics.
- xp84 1y agoThanks to their incredibly poor demos I believed until THIS MORNING that to do that maneuver, you had to start your downward swipe ON the little bar that's about 2px from the bottom of the screen (which works, but is nearly impossible with a case).
- philsnow 1y agoThat helps with reaching up, but my thumb also doesn't reach the far bottom corner either. I don't have a super-octave handspan but I don't have small hands either.
- djtango 1y agoI'm glad other people have chimed in. It drives me insane that no one thought to make one-hand mode not change the width as well or be a total aspect change. Just make it configurable yknow
- Yxven 1y agoThe trick to this is to attach a handle to the back of it. I'm using one that telescopes from the "popsockets" brand (I'm unaffiliated and have no idea how it compares with other brands). It makes it possible for me to access all parts of my screen holding it one handed. It should be a standard feature.
- jghn 1y agoYep. I keep holding out for a new Mini. They keep making phones wider and taller. Thanks Apple!
- chongli 1y agoWe're in the minority. The iPhone Minis did not sell well. I think women especially do not want a small phone because they carry it in a purse anyway (and slap a case on it with an extra handle to make it easier to hold).
- cassianoleal 1y ago> The iPhone Minis did not sell well. I’ve said this many times when this came up. The Mini didn’t fail because it was too small. It failed because it wasn’t small enough. I want a small phone that I can use single-handedly. A smaller screen is a tradeoff. The Mini had the disadvantage of a smaller screen plus the disadvantage of not being usable with a single hand. Because of that, I never bought one - if I’m going to be handicapped anyway, I’d rather have a larger screen.
- Nition 1y agoThe iPhone Mini size isn't to bad, but I agree to some extent - I think perfect size phone for me would be about original iPhone SE size. It could have a 5" screen if you made it edge-to-edge (for ref the iPhone Mini has a 5.4" screen).
- creer 1y agoOriginal SE was fantastic. Still is.
- Swizec 1y ago> The Mini didn’t fail because it was too small. It failed because it wasn’t small enough. The size is fine. But why they gotta handicap cameras? All I want is a mini-sized phone with max's camera. Is that so much to ask for? At this point I'm strongly considering ditching the iPhone and going Watch + Fujifilm Camera. Maybe keep an old phone at home to manage the watch.
- mrheosuper 1y ago> Is that so much to ask for? Actually, yes. The mini already has limited space to work with, they had already to shrink the MB, the battery. It would take much more effort to put a pro camera into it. Also those camera do heat up. Personally, i think the camera setup on ip13mini is fine.
- singleshot_ 1y agoI’ve been a little concerned that the (non-transparent) back is “protected” by glass. I understand that Marketing has to work with what they’re given, but that’s a bit much.
- antonkochubey 1y agoiPhones had glass backs for the better part of last decade
- singleshot_ 1y agoWhy?
- antonkochubey 1y agoWireless charging at the very least
- xp84 1y agoYou need it to be glass and not plastic because otherwise it would cut in half the number of expensive repairs, which would likely tempt people to risk not having AppleCare, a very profitable business.
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- metasaval 1y agoEvery time a new iPhone comes up people on hacker news pine for a new mini, which I understand. But everytime someone has to bring back up that the 12 and 13 minis were the worst selling sku two gens in a row, with at one point the 13 mini only attributing to 3% of 13 sales [1]. I'm sorry, but the market has spoken. And there's Android phones in that form factor if you really want it. [1] https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopular-march-quarter/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula...
- icar 1y ago> there's Android phones in that form factor if you really want it. I'm genuinely interested. Which ones?
- alternatetwo 1y agoWhen I looked for a new phone on gsmarena with a similar form factor as my old one, there were pretty much no options. So few even, my old phone appeared in the results. I too would be interested.
- cesnja 1y agoThere's this 6.1 inch phone, now stop complaining.
- DecentShoes 1y agoThere are not Android phones in that form factor
- jbverschoor 1y agoExactly.. and it’s not even the height. It’s mainly the width + placements of UI elements at the top. Air could’ve been the perfect mini replacement. Same width, but higher. But no.. why get the air when the pro has so much more of everything, and is only 100 more
- mike-cardwell 1y agoI recently doubled the thickness of my iPhone SE by adding an external battery. Fits in my jeans pocket fine along with several other things in the same pocket. If they can get it that thin, why don't they just add more battery and take us back to the time when we could run phones for weeks between charges. [edit] I'll answer my own question. Nobody is going to replace an iPhone because it drops from 21 days battery to 14 days battery, but they probably will replace an iPhone that drops from 21 hours battery to 14 hours.
- creer 1y agoThere is an accessory outboard battery for this new iphone.
- DecentShoes 1y agoYou know, that's a good point. At least the air will have amazing battery life once it's in a purpose built battery case
- poniko 1y agoI got the Samsung 25 Edge and did move from a the regular sized phone to "plus" without the constraints and weight that usually follows. I can reach the screen edges that I can't on the same size plus version. Added bonus that i don't get a strain in my pinky from the weight and its still very pocketable. So I'm sold on thinner phones except the wobble from hell when its laying on the table.
- matt-attack 1y agoIt’s because they’re working on a foldable phone. And to make that work you need to phone half as thin first. This is not because they think people want thinner phones. It’s because they think people will want bigger screens and this will get them there.
- thisgoodlife 1y agoI like the size of a regular iPhone. What I really want is a lighter phone. Unfortunately, compared to the iPhone 17, the Air is about 30% thinner, with worse battery life, camera, etc, but only around 7% lighter. I was expecting at least 20% lighter if it's called "Air".
- barnabee 1y agoI’ve found the Pixel 8 and 9 Pro to be quite a reasonable size and they run GrapheneOS pretty nicely.
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- torginus 1y agoBack when I got my iPhone XR I immediately thought it was too thin, and got a case for it which added a non insignificant amount of thickness.
- clickety_clack 1y agoExactly my thought when I saw it. When I said smaller this isn’t what I meant!
- epolanski 1y agoNo, but if I recall correctly the mini didn't sell as well as they wanted.
- dontlaugh 1y agoExactly. I'm still using my iPhone 13 mini and won't change it for something bigger. I wouldn't mind something a little smaller.
- Ericson2314 1y agoYes, the fact that there is no American small phone with an e-ink screen is IMO proof that they basically want us to suffer.
- amai 1y agoThe reason why we have such big smartphones is that the ratio of screensize (2d area) to battery size (3d volume) is better for smart phones with a bigger screen.