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Did anyone else notice they are flying narrow-body aircraft across the Atlantic? Perhaps testing a trans-Atlantic flight using a narrow-body. Currently, everyo

Did anyone else notice they are flying narrow-body aircraft across the Atlantic? Perhaps testing a trans-Atlantic flight using a narrow-body. Currently, everyone only flies wide-body aircraft. This may be a feasibility test to fly smaller aircraft (737, A320, etc) transatlantic and train narrow-body check airmen in transatlantic crossings. This would be an interesting change and development.

cperciva 1y ago
Currently, everyone only flies wide-body aircraft. Air Canada operates YUL-EDI and YHZ-LHR on 737s, and WestJet operates YHZ-BCN, YYZ-EDI, and YYZ-DUB. And that's not even counting the dozens of flights to and from KEF (which might or might not count as TATL depending on whether you consider Iceland to be in Europe or in the middle of the Atlantic).
- madcaptenor 1y ago
  For those who don't speak airport code: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=YUL-EDI,+YHZ-LHR,+YHZ-BCN,+YYZ-EDI,+YYZ-DUB http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=YUL-EDI,+YHZ-LHR,+YHZ-BCN,+YYZ-...
- sleepyguy 1y ago
  PHL to EDI is further than the AC and WestJet flights, and I wouldn't count KEF as transatlantic. I'm not aware of any US carriers flying narrow bodies across the Atlantic. American has an old US Air Hub in Philly, so I imagine that is why it is from PHL.
  - ta1243 1y ago
    JetBlue do a lot of transatlantic on A321neos, including New York to Amsterdam which is 300 miles further than Philadelphia to Edinburgh
  - rsynnott 1y ago
    United at least used to; I was on a united 757 from Chicago to Dublin once. (I wouldn't particularly recommend it.)
JCM9 1y ago
JetBlue also flying narrow bodies across the pond. It used to be not a thing but with lots of ETOPS narrow bodies out there it’s pretty common now.
rob74 1y ago
There has already been a narrow-body aircraft that can fly transatlantic routes for quite some time: the Boeing 757. In fact, American operated 177 of them until they were retired early in 2020 due to Covid (according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_fleet; video of a Dublin-Philadelphia flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1OIdiKgqrA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1OIdiKgqrA), and now intends to use the A321 XLR for the same role.
- joezydeco 1y ago
  United inherited a bunch of long-range 757s with the Continental merger. I flew one Newark-Stuttgart one summer. United saw it as a cheaper way to fly transatlantic with a smaller crew. Problem was that the aircraft couldn't make it back to the US on a single tank of fuel if the jet stream was too strong. Which happened a lot. So we got a nice detour to Goose Bay for refueling and nearly missed our connection. The regulars joked that YYR was the new United hub on the east coast. I don't think UA does this much anymore. Maybe COVID killed that route too.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 1y ago
    My favorite plane to fly on, was the 767, but that's been gone for a long time.
    - nunez 1y ago
      UAL still flies the 763 for international missions
- profile53 1y ago
  Did you use an LLM to write this post? The Wikipedia link is hallucinated
  - potato3732842 1y ago
    >Did you use an LLM to write this post? The Wikipedia link is hallucinated An erroneous ; was added. Probably not LLM. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_fleet
tiahura 1y ago
Southwest has been flying 737s to Hawaii for at least a dozen years.
trillic 1y ago
JetBlue flies a lot of a321neo aircraft Transat. BOS-MAD, BOS-LHR, BOS-DUB, BOS-AMS, BOS-CDG, BOS-EDI JFK-LHR, JFK-DUB, JFK-AMS, JFK-CDG.
devilbunny 1y ago
I flew a 757 on Delta from Atlanta to Stuttgart and back. That was pre-COVID, though. Still, using narrowbodies isn't new.
nutjob2 1y ago
Flying A321LR's are actually a pretty popular option already. Now Airbus is releasing the XLR variant which opens up even more routes. The feasibility is not in question, each variant has a well defined range for a given payload.
FireBeyond 1y ago
Not quite as long, admittedly (~2,800mi) but plenty of airlines are flying narrow-body "across" the Pacific (my number there is SEA-OGG/HNL).
gaadd33 1y ago
Jetblue only flies narrow bodies across the Atlantic, I'm sure there are a number of others too.

cperciva 1y ago

Currently, everyone only flies wide-body aircraft. Air Canada operates YUL-EDI and YHZ-LHR on 737s, and WestJet operates YHZ-BCN, YYZ-EDI, and YYZ-DUB. And that's not even counting the dozens of flights to and from KEF (which might or might not count as TATL depending on whether you consider Iceland to be in Europe or in the middle of the Atlantic).

madcaptenor 1y ago
For those who don't speak airport code: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=YUL-EDI,+YHZ-LHR,+YHZ-BCN,+YYZ-EDI,+YYZ-DUB http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=YUL-EDI,+YHZ-LHR,+YHZ-BCN,+YYZ-...
sleepyguy 1y ago
PHL to EDI is further than the AC and WestJet flights, and I wouldn't count KEF as transatlantic. I'm not aware of any US carriers flying narrow bodies across the Atlantic. American has an old US Air Hub in Philly, so I imagine that is why it is from PHL.
- ta1243 1y ago
  JetBlue do a lot of transatlantic on A321neos, including New York to Amsterdam which is 300 miles further than Philadelphia to Edinburgh
- rsynnott 1y ago
  United at least used to; I was on a united 757 from Chicago to Dublin once. (I wouldn't particularly recommend it.)

JCM9 1y ago

JetBlue also flying narrow bodies across the pond. It used to be not a thing but with lots of ETOPS narrow bodies out there it’s pretty common now.

rob74 1y ago

There has already been a narrow-body aircraft that can fly transatlantic routes for quite some time: the Boeing 757. In fact, American operated 177 of them until they were retired early in 2020 due to Covid (according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_fleet; video of a Dublin-Philadelphia flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1OIdiKgqrA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1OIdiKgqrA), and now intends to use the A321 XLR for the same role.

joezydeco 1y ago
United inherited a bunch of long-range 757s with the Continental merger. I flew one Newark-Stuttgart one summer. United saw it as a cheaper way to fly transatlantic with a smaller crew. Problem was that the aircraft couldn't make it back to the US on a single tank of fuel if the jet stream was too strong. Which happened a lot. So we got a nice detour to Goose Bay for refueling and nearly missed our connection. The regulars joked that YYR was the new United hub on the east coast. I don't think UA does this much anymore. Maybe COVID killed that route too.
- ChrisMarshallNY 1y ago
  My favorite plane to fly on, was the 767, but that's been gone for a long time.
  - nunez 1y ago
    UAL still flies the 763 for international missions
profile53 1y ago
Did you use an LLM to write this post? The Wikipedia link is hallucinated
- potato3732842 1y ago
  >Did you use an LLM to write this post? The Wikipedia link is hallucinated An erroneous ; was added. Probably not LLM. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_fleet

tiahura 1y ago

Southwest has been flying 737s to Hawaii for at least a dozen years.

trillic 1y ago

JetBlue flies a lot of a321neo aircraft Transat. BOS-MAD, BOS-LHR, BOS-DUB, BOS-AMS, BOS-CDG, BOS-EDI JFK-LHR, JFK-DUB, JFK-AMS, JFK-CDG.

devilbunny 1y ago

I flew a 757 on Delta from Atlanta to Stuttgart and back. That was pre-COVID, though. Still, using narrowbodies isn't new.

nutjob2 1y ago

Flying A321LR's are actually a pretty popular option already. Now Airbus is releasing the XLR variant which opens up even more routes. The feasibility is not in question, each variant has a well defined range for a given payload.

FireBeyond 1y ago

Not quite as long, admittedly (~2,800mi) but plenty of airlines are flying narrow-body "across" the Pacific (my number there is SEA-OGG/HNL).

gaadd33 1y ago

Jetblue only flies narrow bodies across the Atlantic, I'm sure there are a number of others too.