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Something that isn't said or asked is what scrapyards are accepting these. For catalytic converters, most yards are supposed to measures in place to deter accep
by rpcope1 1y ago
Something that isn't said or asked is what scrapyards are accepting these. For catalytic converters, most yards are supposed to measures in place to deter accepting stolen cats. Someone has to be seeing loads of things like statues or guardrails coming in by someone who almost certainly doesn't own them (and probably looks like it). There's financial incentive to accept anything and everything that comes in, but there needs to be more aggressive measures to punish yards that are unscrupulous and end up accepting stolen goods without a fight.
- onestay42 1y ago[flagged]
- metalman 1y agosee my handle so where the fuck to start go to a bunch of scrap yards, someones "door yard", like mine, where as a matter of course, bits and chunks of most metals end up as part of building and repairing, to larger operations that are huge, fast paced with prices and markets changing by the hour, and cash is used as the entisement to get people to bring metal in on everything from bicycles to the biggest rigs on the road, a cacophany of heavy equipment like car shredders, that reduce a full sized car to hand sized bits, and seperate out the more valuable metals, and waste plastic, grrrrrank!, done it's a wild, dangerous madhouse populated by characters that will most defintly get your attention, which is a mistake, because you dont want thiers. then there are hundreds of thousands of small to medium sized businesses that generate several hundred tons of scrap per year in acompletly normal, organized, boring fashion, except for when it gets dropped, and the expected and tolerated losses to dumpster diving. I could go into much greater detail as to how it works, the safeguards to prevent theft that are in place, but as in the case of guardrails say, the problem is that, legitimatly scrapped guardrails come in every day, or hyway crews just leave crash damaged ones lay beside the hyway when they fix the rails, 1 they are too busy, and 2 they know the bent ones spontainoiusly disapear, the scraped one is worth $17.26......nobody is doing extra paper work for that, right we are talking millions of tons pe anum of material moved in a completly random ad hock manner, dont take it the wrong way, but... go the fuck ahead bub, you fix it I'll watch
- cwillu 1y agoA couple presses of the enter key would greatly improve the readability of your comment.
- OccamsMirror 1y agoBut would it have properly communicated their manic energy?
- navane 1y agoThank you! I first dismissed the post as badly edited, but it's a masterpiece! Three, four sentences.
- bluedino 1y agoI don't understand how the yards will take nearly-new AC condensers and things like that. The building next door had three installed, on the ground. They were gone the first weekend. The next 3 they installed were put on the roof, and had razor wire around them.
- pixl97 1y agoBecause some scrap yards are ran by sleezeballs that know exactly what they are doing. They know it's some methhead that stole it so they pay far below market rates then run it through a shredder to launder it.
- Cthulhu_ 1y agoJust store them for a while then put them on sale on ebay in a different county, they're worth more like that than their scrap value. There's huge networks of grey market people willing to buy / install / etc "secondhand" car parts or in this case AC units.
- potato3732842 1y agoBecause that stuff comes in all the time as a result of normal business inefficiency, obviously not a whole truck load but a few wouldn't raise eyebrows and the kind of people stealing are the same kind of people scrapping the same things legitimacy so profiling only works in the most flagrant cases.
- terribleperson 1y agoTo my understanding, stolen catalytic converters move through criminal channels until they get out of the country, are recycled, and then come back in as raw materials. At some point in the chain, they're turned from catalytic converters into bulk metal-containing ceramic powder for easier transport.
- whimsicalism 1y agowrong, most catalytic converter theft has been laundered through legal auto parts sellers and associated companies that are breaking the law
- potato3732842 1y agoThat's a fancy way of saying "the scrap yards used to accept them, but then the states passed documentation laws, so now the thieves bring them to auto shops who pay them a lesser price and then print up some BS invoice and reciepts so that the scrap yard can feel like their ass is covered"
- terribleperson 1y agoSource? Not disagreeing, just interested in seeing some articles that cover this/hearing personal anecdotes.
- whimsicalism 1y agohttps://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/leader-national-catalytic-converter-theft-ring-pleads-guilty-and-admits-selling-stolen-goods https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/leader-national-catalytic-con... the wikipedia article on 2020-2022 catalytic converter theft also covers it pretty well