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It's really interesting point of view. I'm one of those people who avoid using VSCode at any cost. It's slow, it's bloated, the UI is not great, and it's slowly
by pimeys 1y ago
It's really interesting point of view. I'm one of those people who avoid using VSCode at any cost. It's slow, it's bloated, the UI is not great, and it's slowly being locked down by Microsoft.
If Zed would not exist, I would be using helix, neovim, or emacs as I did before.
- torben-friis 1y agoIt’s not at all slow when compared to IntelliJ products or similar. It doesn’t compete with editors, it competes with IDEs.
- hu3 1y agoInterestingly I disagree with all your points about VSCode. It's fast, barebones by default, UI is minimal and it's Open Source enough that competitors forked from it. I guess YMMV because there is a comment in this post from another user about Zed being sluggish.
- pimeys 1y agoI tried VSCode many times in my life and just hated the experience so much. It put me away from GUI editors for years, didn't want to try any of them. So ugly and so sluggish. Zed was the first one that put me to rethink my position. It is so snappy on my Linux workstation and I don't have any issues with it's GUI. I finally switched from vim et.al. But I know I have "weird" opinions, I also really dislike Apple products and their software.
- typpilol 1y agoMy experience is the exact opposite Vscode has never had any input delay for me
- timeon 1y agoEven not counting the LSP, for a text editor, it eats quite large amount of RAM.
- IshKebab 1y agoVSCode is actually not slow. The problem is to make it useful you need to add quite a few extensions, and those can be slow. That itself wouldn't be too bad but VSCode doesn't expose any information about what is causing the slowness. You end up with "VSCode is slow and it could be due to any one of the dozen extensions I have installed", which effectively means that VSCode is slow. It remains to be seen if Zed can avoid that though.
- WD-42 1y agoVSCode (and all Electron based editors) have undeniable input latency. Zed is built by the same team that developed Atom and Electron and one of their stated goals is to make up for the shortcomings of these technologies. If you don't feel that VSCode is slow, it's because you are used to it.
- Barrin92 1y ago>If you don't feel that VSCode is slow, it's because you are used to it. I don't think this is a fair claim. When you start doing an apples to apples comparison, that is to say make full use of IDE and auto-completion features it's difficult to see a difference given that the latency and speed of the plugins starts to dominate any millisecond difference in input latency or rendering speed.
- WD-42 1y agoNo. When a press a character key on my keyboard, it should appear in my editor immediately. All other IDE features like auto-completion happen asynchronously.
- SAI_Peregrinus 1y ago> When a press a character key on my keyboard, it should appear in my editor immediately. Seems to work the same for me in VSCode, CLion, and nvim. I don't doubt that you have issues with it (I've experienced slow editors & laggy input, it sucks) but I don't think it's inherent to VSCode. Doesn't mean it's not a bug, but if I had that issue I'd try with no extensions to verify, then binary search disabling the extensions I want until I find the one causing the lag.