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Warp Code: the fastest way from prompt to production
- giancarlostoro 1y agoPro Tip: Ask the agent or another LLM to generate a prompt for an agent of what you want to build, then tweak it as needed, and then use that prompt. I've had decent success prompting Junie (JetBrains AI) a few times because of this.
- kachapopopow 1y agoI switched to this and honestly, more or less feels the same as claude code except with a fancy UI and built-in mcp servers for automated memory management. But I am sticking to it so I don't have to deal with vendor lockin (I heavily disagree with what antrophic is doing when it comes to 'safety')
- Esophagus4 1y agoThe difference to me is that I can quickly switch in and out of “AI mode” with Warp. So it’s a terminal when I want that, and it’s an AI assistant when I want that. With Claude Code, you’re stuck in AI mode all the time (which is slow for running vanilla terminal commands) or you have to have a second window for just terminal commands. Edit: just read some documentation saying Claude has a “bash mode” where it will actually pass through the commands, so off to try that out now.
- Aeolun 1y agoWasn’t Warp an (electron based) terminal? Why suddenly agentic coding?
- mungaihaha 1y agoNo. Its built atop rust iirc
- AtlasBarfed 1y ago"Agentic" is vc speak for "perpetual corporate subscription revenue so keep giving us money"
- kamikazeturtles 1y agoThe real question is how does a startup that offers a terminal as its product command a $280 million valuation and need close to 100 employees?
- sys13 1y agoThere was an intermediate step where they introduced AI command generation (super useful). Agentic coding follows naturally from that.
- melaniecrissey 1y agoWarp was never Electron-based. It's built with Rust
- animex 1y agoThe pivot is likely because there's more VC dollars there. It is a handy AI-cli for any terminal. I've been using the "terminal" app for a few months and found it was a very competent coding tool. I kept giving feedback to the team that they should "beef up" the coding side because until Claude Code this was my daily driver for writing code until Opus 4. The interface still is a bit janky because i think it's trying to predict whether you're typing a console command or talking to it for new prompt (it tries to dynamical assess that but often enough it crosses the streams). Regardless, I highly recommend checking it out, I've had some great success with it.
- gandalfgeek 1y ago> Initialize projects with their own WARP.md files (compatible with Agents.MD, Claude.MD and cursor rules). Can we please standardize this and just have one markdown file that all the agents can use?
- kpen11 1y agoThe standardization is AGENTS.md, mentioned in the compatibility. See https://agents.md/ https://agents.md/
- cbm-vic-20 1y agoOff-topic: that site could just be a static page, does it really need to be a next.js app? https://github.com/openai/agents.md/ https://github.com/openai/agents.md/
- CuriouslyC 1y agoAll these monolithic agents are so wasteful. Having an agent orchestration service is so much more efficient and maintainable. My work in progress rust agent takes less cpu/memory for a whole swarm than one claude code instance.
- all2 1y agoWould you be willing to share? I've been poking at this kind of thing, but I haven't had great success rolling my own agents.
- CuriouslyC 1y agoMy rust agent is closed source (at least right now, we'll see) but I'm happy to discuss details of how stuff works to get you going in the right direction.
- all2 1y agoI'd be glad to hear more. I'm not certain what I would even ask, as the space is really fuzzy (prompting and all that). I've got an Ollama instance (24GB VRAM) I want to leverage to try and reduce dependency on Claude Code. Even the tech stack seems unapproachable. I've considered LiteLLM, router agents, micro-agents (smallest slice of functionality possible), etc. I haven't wrapped my head around it all the way, though. Ideally, it would be something like: UI <--> LiteLLM ^ | v Agent Shim Where the UI is probably aider or something similar. Claude Code muddies the differentiation between UI and agent (with all the built in system-prompt injection). I imagine I would like to move system-prompt injection / agent CRUD into the agent shim. I'm just spitballing here. Thoughts? (my email is in my profile if you would prefer to continue there)
- CuriouslyC 1y agoI also have a 24gb card. Local LLMs are great for a lot of things but I wouldn't route coding questions to them, the time/$ tradeoff isn't worth it. Also, don't use LiteLLM, it's just bad, Bifrost is the way. You can use a LLM router to direct questions to an optimal model on a price/performance pareto frontier. I have a plugin for Bifrost that does this, Heimdall (https://github.com/sibyllinesoft/heimdall https://github.com/sibyllinesoft/heimdall), it's very beta right now but the test coverage is good, I just haven't paved the integration pathway yet. I've got a number of products in the works to manage context automatically, enrich/tune rag, provide enhanced code search. Most of them are public and you can poke around and see what I'm doing. I plan on doing a number of launches soon but I like to build rock solid software and rapid agentic development really creates a large manual qa/acceptance eval burden.
- serjester 1y agoDesperate pivot aside, I don't see how anyone competes with the big labs on coding agents. They can serve the models at a fraction of the API cost, can trivially add post training to fill gaps and have way deeper enterprise penetration.
- ianbutler 1y agoSpecialization into specific parts of the life cycle, specific technologies and integration into specific systems. Things like self hosting and data privacy, model optionality too. Plenty of companies still don’t want to ship their code, agreement or not over to these vendors or be locked into their specific model.
- oceanplexian 1y agoI feel like it's totally the opposite. The differentiator is the fact that the scaling myth was a lie. The GPT-5 flop should make that obvious enough. These guys are spending billions and can't make the models show more than a few % improvement. You need to actually innovate, e.g. tricks like MoE, tool calling, better cache utilization, concurrency, better prompting, CoT, data labeling, and so on. Not two weeks ago some Chinese academics put out a paper called Deep Think With Confidence where they coaxed GPT-OSS-120B into thinking a little longer causing it to perform better on benchmarks than it did when OpenAI released it.
- manquer 1y agoScaling inference not training is what OP means I believe . The smaller startups like cursor or windsurf are not competing on foundational model development. So whether new models are generationally better is not relevant to them. A cursor is competing with Claude code and both use Claude Sonnet. Even if Cursor was running a on par model on their own GPUs their inference costs will not as cheap as those of Anthropic just because they would not be operating at the same scale . Larger DCs means better deals, more knowledge about running an inference better because they are also doing much larger training runs.
- pjjpo 1y agoDon't need to compete - demonstrate some ability to use AI in an easy to understand way, get bought out at valuation. Bad for investors, awesome for founders. Reference: Browser Company
- bt1a 1y agooptimizing for the shortest path from idea to prod sounds a tad warped, if i may
- wrs 1y ago(1) Aside from having a worse (sorry, “lighter weight”) editor, how is this functionally different from Cursor? (2) A Microsoft VP of product spends enough time writing code to be a relevant testimonial?
- sudhirb 1y agoFor me, the USP Warp used to have was generating shell commands from prompts inside the terminal - but Cursor has had this in its embedded terminal for a while now so increasingly I find myself using Ghostty instead
- falcor84 1y agoSometimes worse is better. I haven't used it a lot yet, but so far I quite like this reduced focus on editing - I see this as close to the sweet spot of vibe coding, in between Claude Code and a full editor/IDE, whereby I generally trust the agent to right the code, but just want a simple editor to steer it more effectively. I see this similarly to the way I would have a work session with a more junior dev where sometimes during the chat I would "drop down in abstraction" to show them how I'd code a specific function, but I don't want to take over - I'm giving them a bit of direction, and it's up to them to either keep my code or ignore/rewrite it to better suit their approach.
- wrs 1y agoI get that it’s a different mode, but if you ever drop into editing, why would you ever want a worse (or just unfamiliar) editor? How does that improve the agent mode? If my junior dev only had Notepad installed, I would get them to install a better editor, I wouldn’t say “it’s great you only have Notepad, so we can focus on our conversation”.
- falcor84 1y agoWell, Notepad is probably too much of a downgrade, but I do often prefer something simpler like Sublime rather than my fully extensionized VS Code, which I do like, but has a ton of visual clutter which I only need when I'm in a developer mindset rather than a vibing mindset.
- pseufaux 1y agoIf warp had just stuck to being a decent terminal emulator with great UI, I would be using it without question. This AI nonsense is why I don't even consider them an option.
- Esophagus4 1y agoThe slick AI integration is exactly why I use it over the other thousand terminal emulators. Claude Code can replicate some of the behavior, but it’s too slow to switch in and out of command / agent flows.
- wahnfrieden 1y agoEdit: never mind / can’t delete because HN
- Esophagus4 1y agoI think this is a different Warp…
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- wahnfrieden 1y agoClaude Code and Codex provide something like $5000 of tokens for $200. How will any other offering depending on their models ever compete with that except by luring suckers or tire kickers?
- wmf 1y agoAssuming that's a temporary situation, they can paper it over with VC funding.
- wahnfrieden 1y agoWhy do you think it’s temporary?
- bdcravens 1y agoSame reason that any giveaways by startups are.
- wahnfrieden 1y agoThey already have 40% margins on inference. Even if they give less with their own subscriptions, they may continue to have such margins on API, handicapping competitor tools
- barrrrald 1y agono idea how the product itself works but they have set a new standard for small startup launch videos with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKOVAa1KAo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKOVAa1KAo
- tills13 1y ago> 97% acceptance rate this concerns me given what I've seen generated by these tools. In 10? 5? 1? year(s) are we going to see an influx of CVEs or hiring of Senior+ level developers solely for the purpose of cleaning up these messes?
- TheNewsIsHere 1y agoInsofar as CVEs issued for proprietary software, I would expect that the owning organization would not be inclined to blame AI code unless they think they can pass the buck. But as for eventually having to hire senior developers to clean up the mess, I do expect that. Most organizations that think they can build and ship reliable products without human experts probably won’t be around long enough to be able to have actual CVEs issued. But larger organizations playing this game will eventually have to face some kind of reckoning.
- STELLANOVA 1y agoI am not really convinced that rate is higher without AI tooling. CVEs existed before AI tools with only humans generating code...
- whywhywhywhy 1y agoWhy would you need a human to fix it if you know what the CVE is.
- falcor84 1y agoLooking at the other side of the coin, I'm hoping that the proliferation of unsafe code would lead to more investment in vulnerability testing tooling, and particularly in reducing false positives by generating potential exploits. Having better security testing would be a massive boon to the industry regardless of whether we use AI to write the code.
- orliesaurus 1y agoWarp started well and now lost their way. Fuck them. Ghostty all the way.
- LambdaComplex 1y ago> Warp started well Did they? Their original product was a terminal emulator, with built-in telemetry, that required you to create an account to use.
- orliesaurus 1y agoYou could eventually remove all that and it was nice to have some features like a clean modern UI, although you could argue nothing beats iTerm2
- alvis 1y agoThe part I don't get is the pricing. Seems like its pricing is solely based on requests. Then how would someone use gpt 4.1 when opus is charing the same price???
- DannyBee 1y agoQuickly entering "i'm calling today to talk to you about your car's agentic coding" territory.