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These news are awfully similar to click-bait stating "the science is settled" by grouping a small set of the group and then pretending it represents the whole.

These news are awfully similar to click-bait stating "the science is settled" by grouping a small set of the group and then pretending it represents the whole. The paper failed both to identify the overall number of scientists using X or the cases where multiple platforms are used (most common scenario). Therefore the paper only seems biased on its best scenario or downright propaganda at its worst. NOSTR and Mastodon should never be left out of any serious research.

traceroute66 1y ago
> The paper failed both to identify .... But its published by Oxford, so it must be perfect. /s
- tim333 1y ago
  It's also behind a paywall preventing public knowledge of the critical is bluesky or twitter cooler issue.
- EasyMark 1y ago
  Certainly more so than anything you'd spot from Trump University or Liberty University.
hopelite 1y ago
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- beepbooptheory 1y ago
  Pretty wild how important social media is for some people.. We seem now to be at the level of public school DARE officer lecture. Everything else aside, its just amazing how much things have changed, how alien this sentiment would seem if transported back even like 15 years.. "I have been groomed into joining the social media platform of the ruling aristocracy!" This is odd right? Or am I out of touch? There just seems prima facie to be more important things to care about, but maybe I am just an old man now. It all just feels like some ominous prelude to 15 years from now where twitter accounts are compulsory and we all get food stamps based on retweets or something..
  - LexiMax 1y ago
    > This is odd right? It is. If anything, it reads like sour grapes over their tribe picking a different place to socialize. Maybe this is controversial, but I think socializing should be a pleasant experience. If a social space doesn't pass a vibe check, find someplace else where you feel more comfortable. If these scientists feel more comfortable on BlueSky, more power to them.
- yeahok 1y ago
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  - hopelite 1y ago
    You feel you have the right and ability to freely associate, "select self"? I agree with your naive libertarian perspective to the degree that it is meant to miss the mark, but when the government has not only violated the law, i.e., the Constitution, and has done some consistently and been derelict in enforcing the law, like free speech in the public domain, then you arrive at both the objective fact that the government has not been legitimate for many many decades, and that it is inherently illegitimate through its treason, the root word of which meaning betrayal.
- SpicyLemonZest 1y ago
  The ruling aristocracy prefer Twitter, though? I genuinely don't know what you mean by this.
dreamcompiler 1y ago
> NOSTR and Mastodon should never be left out of any serious research I'm a nerd and I've never heard of NOSTR. What I've heard about Mastodon suggests strong "Desktop Linux circa 2000" vibes: Too much fiddling around for too little gain. If I can't be bothered to deal with either of these, the normies certainly cannot.
- eqvinox 1y ago
  No idea where you get your gossip, the only real problem I'm aware of with Mastodon is search functionality being useless garbage. Not even sure what you would "fiddle" with on a social platform? Or are you talking about self hosting?
  - tialaramex 1y ago
    As with the history of Linux, there is a certain kind of person who cannot imagine any middle ground between "I buy only Microsoft-approved products" and "For each named server we start with LFS and it typically takes 6-8 weeks to customize the build for that server". In this space it's "I use Twitter" and "After sitting down with the protocol documentation I reckon in January 2026 I will launch my own custom Mastodon server". No middle ground at all. No "Maybe I could join this instance of like-minded individuals?" or even "I found a turnkey solution for $10 per month", it's either 100% blood oath loyalty to Elon's service or they have to write all the software by hand themselves.
    - fragmede 1y ago
      Specifically, https://mathstodon.xyz/ https://mathstodon.xyz/ seems to be pretty popular among the math scientists I know, https://biologists.social/ https://biologists.social/ for biologists, computer security folk seem to be using https://infosec.exchange/ https://infosec.exchange/ Don't look at mastodon as a whole, look at specific popular servers and their niche.
- nunobrito 1y ago
  Most nerds I know wouldn't see obstacles to try out either Mastodon nor NOSTR because they'd be naturally curious about them. Mastodon works as intended and grows reasonably well. NOSTR is quite frankly one of the most relevant innovations on open source forum/communities from the past two decades. Both serve similar purposes (build online communities) but the while Mastodon uses a traditional server with a federation on top, NOSTR uses the concept of relay. In essence, your texts never belong to the owner of a server, you send them to any of a thousand volunteer maintained relays and your audience reads them from there. Your identity remains the same, anyone can verify the authenticity of your texts and this is quite a feature on a time that digital censorship increases.

traceroute66 1y ago

> The paper failed both to identify .... But its published by Oxford, so it must be perfect. /s

tim333 1y ago
It's also behind a paywall preventing public knowledge of the critical is bluesky or twitter cooler issue.
EasyMark 1y ago
Certainly more so than anything you'd spot from Trump University or Liberty University.

hopelite 1y ago

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beepbooptheory 1y ago
Pretty wild how important social media is for some people.. We seem now to be at the level of public school DARE officer lecture. Everything else aside, its just amazing how much things have changed, how alien this sentiment would seem if transported back even like 15 years.. "I have been groomed into joining the social media platform of the ruling aristocracy!" This is odd right? Or am I out of touch? There just seems prima facie to be more important things to care about, but maybe I am just an old man now. It all just feels like some ominous prelude to 15 years from now where twitter accounts are compulsory and we all get food stamps based on retweets or something..
- LexiMax 1y ago
  > This is odd right? It is. If anything, it reads like sour grapes over their tribe picking a different place to socialize. Maybe this is controversial, but I think socializing should be a pleasant experience. If a social space doesn't pass a vibe check, find someplace else where you feel more comfortable. If these scientists feel more comfortable on BlueSky, more power to them.
yeahok 1y ago
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- hopelite 1y ago
  You feel you have the right and ability to freely associate, "select self"? I agree with your naive libertarian perspective to the degree that it is meant to miss the mark, but when the government has not only violated the law, i.e., the Constitution, and has done some consistently and been derelict in enforcing the law, like free speech in the public domain, then you arrive at both the objective fact that the government has not been legitimate for many many decades, and that it is inherently illegitimate through its treason, the root word of which meaning betrayal.
SpicyLemonZest 1y ago
The ruling aristocracy prefer Twitter, though? I genuinely don't know what you mean by this.

dreamcompiler 1y ago

> NOSTR and Mastodon should never be left out of any serious research I'm a nerd and I've never heard of NOSTR. What I've heard about Mastodon suggests strong "Desktop Linux circa 2000" vibes: Too much fiddling around for too little gain. If I can't be bothered to deal with either of these, the normies certainly cannot.

eqvinox 1y ago
No idea where you get your gossip, the only real problem I'm aware of with Mastodon is search functionality being useless garbage. Not even sure what you would "fiddle" with on a social platform? Or are you talking about self hosting?
- tialaramex 1y ago
  As with the history of Linux, there is a certain kind of person who cannot imagine any middle ground between "I buy only Microsoft-approved products" and "For each named server we start with LFS and it typically takes 6-8 weeks to customize the build for that server". In this space it's "I use Twitter" and "After sitting down with the protocol documentation I reckon in January 2026 I will launch my own custom Mastodon server". No middle ground at all. No "Maybe I could join this instance of like-minded individuals?" or even "I found a turnkey solution for $10 per month", it's either 100% blood oath loyalty to Elon's service or they have to write all the software by hand themselves.
  - fragmede 1y ago
    Specifically, https://mathstodon.xyz/ https://mathstodon.xyz/ seems to be pretty popular among the math scientists I know, https://biologists.social/ https://biologists.social/ for biologists, computer security folk seem to be using https://infosec.exchange/ https://infosec.exchange/ Don't look at mastodon as a whole, look at specific popular servers and their niche.
nunobrito 1y ago
Most nerds I know wouldn't see obstacles to try out either Mastodon nor NOSTR because they'd be naturally curious about them. Mastodon works as intended and grows reasonably well. NOSTR is quite frankly one of the most relevant innovations on open source forum/communities from the past two decades. Both serve similar purposes (build online communities) but the while Mastodon uses a traditional server with a federation on top, NOSTR uses the concept of relay. In essence, your texts never belong to the owner of a server, you send them to any of a thousand volunteer maintained relays and your audience reads them from there. Your identity remains the same, anyone can verify the authenticity of your texts and this is quite a feature on a time that digital censorship increases.