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The death of anyone from a disease like cancer is tragic.
by RyanOD 1y ago
The death of anyone from a disease like cancer is tragic.
- arunabha 1y agoAgreed. I think the point was that Woz was definitely less rich than Jobs(not poor though) and seems to have had a far happier life than Jobs. In some sense, Woz had what Jobs never had. Woz was blessed with having enough.
- wkat4242 1y agoYes that's what I don't understand about most of the ultra-rich. They keep wanting more despite having enough to spend millions every day for the rest of their lives. Tesla can't stop throwing tens of billions in bonuses at Musk. But what can he do with that money that he couldn't already?
- WalterBright 1y ago> But what can he do with that money that he couldn't already? Go to Mars.
- vkou 1y agoIt would be great if he stopped talking about it and would go ahead and do it.
- phatskat 1y agoYeah you may not want that - Musk’s plan to get to mars involves, not necessarily _intentionally_ but with no attempt to avoid, ruining the earth for everyone else. He and his billionaire friends that want to colonize space have said they intend to do it by any means necessary, including by walking on the backs of us poors, if it means their progeny can outlast the rest of earth.
- Projectiboga 1y agoMars' gravity is 0.39 of Earth's. I don't understand how anyone thinks that can support a permanant colony of humans.
- didgetmaster 1y agoThe gravity difference is probably the least problematic issue with living on Mars.
- wkat4242 1y agoAnd killer dust almost as bad as on the moon. And lots of radiation.
- hermitcrab 1y agoGolgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B.
- woooooo 1y agoGreat irony that his moment of maximum leverage with DOGE was spent slashing basic research.
- wkat4242 1y agoIs that still his goal though? I used to believe he was a good person actually thinking about the best for humanity (although going to Mars is not the way to do that IMO). But then he turned full nazi so yeah...
- ninetyninenine 1y agoThese people end up changing the world. Often for the better sometimes not. There happiness isn’t found by being content with what they have but the desire for total domination. As these people drive progress forward and most of us benefit from the side effects. Just don’t get too close.
- pbhjpbhj 1y ago>total domination. Of people, who they're willing to subject to absolute poverty, and worse, to have their goals achieved. Millions of people are left unhappy so that they can say "I made this money yuge[, and did it all by myself]".
- phatskat 1y agoOne of my favorite episodes of Some More News: Are the Rich OK? https://youtu.be/IP2EKTCngiM?si=p3-Mdp4wBRUd2Kkh https://youtu.be/IP2EKTCngiM?si=p3-Mdp4wBRUd2Kkh
- sokoloff 1y agoI think the “wanting more” you describe is less driven by wanting more purchasing power but rather as an outcome of seeking the accomplishment of measurable goals. It becomes about the number rather than what the number represents. Why does a track star strive to run faster when they can already easily a 4:00 mile and running a 3:42 would be of no practical difference in their life? It’s for the drive not the result.
- wkat4242 1y agoHmm yeah like gamification they put in everywhere these days. I don't really understand the attraction of that. I don't want my watch reminding me I'm halfway through my 'goal' which I only set because there was no way to activate the damn thing without setting one. Samsung also keeps switching notifications for it back on. Grrrr. But in pursuit of these made up goals the industry ruins very real lives by widening the gap between the rich and poor :(
- simgt 1y agoIt's a selection bias, the ones you're thinking about wouldn't be ultra-rich if their greed had an end. And at this level of wealth, money buys you power, not things.
- hermitcrab 1y agoIt is about keeping score with the other billionaires. Bigger market cap and bigger yacht = more status. Personally, I think you have to be some sort of sociopath to prioritise your billionaire ranking over all the good you could do by giving some of that money to good causes. But I guess being a sociopath is probably helpful if you want to be a billionaire.
- ThrowawayR2 1y ago"Money is just a way of keeping score." - attributed to oil baron H. L. Hunt. One might just as well ask why the person with the largest collection of toasters (https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/largest-collection-of-toasters https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/largest-c...) wants them since there's a limit to how much toast he can consume. Soime people have passions and they work to realize them, whether it's something silly toasters or something crass like as wealth and power.
- derekp7 1y agoEspecially when it was caught early on, and was one of the few variations of a horrible cancer type that could have been successfully treated at that stage, but that treatment plan was refused.
- anonymars 1y agoAnd to reinforce/expand on that earlier observation: were it not for Jobs' personality, he likely would not have died of that cancer. So which personality worked out better in the end? (Rhetorical question, not a disagreement with anyone)
- philosophty 1y agoIt's morally repugnant to blame someone for their own death from cancer like this. People do it all the time with Steve Jobs as if it's okay because he could be a jerk at times. It's absolutely not a fact that his cancer could have been cured. That is wildly incorrect. It's more than likely he would have died in any case. Yes, of course his odds would have been improved had he treated it as early as possible but each cancer is extremely specific and no one in the world knows if he could have survived it. Dealing with a diagnoses like pancreatic cancer, and taking a few months to gather the courage for surgery is a very human reaction and not atypical.
- eastbound 1y agoJobs said it himself. He said he had a curable cancer and he should have taken the treatment.
- homarp 1y agohttps://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/10/biographer-steve-jobs-regretted-not-having-cancer-surgery-earlier/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/10/biographer-steve-job... "He wanted to talk about it, how he regretted it....I think he felt he should have been operated on sooner."
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- soperj 1y agoEspecially when it's curable and you decide you know more than your doctor.