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But Chrome is paying more as a percentage of their browser units' income, no? Virtually all of Mozilla's income comes from the browser (via the Google search a

But Chrome is paying more as a percentage of their browser units' income, no? Virtually all of Mozilla's income comes from the browser (via the Google search agreement). The vast majority of Google's revenue comes from ad revenue on search, YouTube, and Adsense. Not from Chrome directly. So they had less incentive to reward its security, but did so anyway. And they also do some of the best work in the industry, free, for competitors via Project Zero.

victorbjorklund 1y ago
The browser totally has zero to do with google ads. Totally no connection at all.
- alxeder 1y ago
  the browser did limit the capabilities of adblockers quite drastically lately, but this is surly a coincidence.
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - Arnt 1y ago
    People keep saying that. There are two problems with that, namely ① Google's own ads are easy to block using the new API and ② the new API is effective at blocking various evil attacks. If Google wanted to get rid of ad blockers, I'm sure they could come up with an API that does a better job than that. https://textslashplain.com/2024/10/13/content-blocking-in-manifest-v3/ https://textslashplain.com/2024/10/13/content-blocking-in-ma... shows a ten-line ad blocker that blocks Google's ads, https://github.com/extesy/hoverzoom/discussions/670 https://github.com/extesy/hoverzoom/discussions/670 is a list of polite email messages from people who'd like to have elevated access to browsers.
    - Rohansi 1y ago
      Don't forget about YouTube!
      - crazygringo 1y ago
        What about YouTube? uBlock Origin Lite blocks YouTube ads just fine.
        Rohansi 1y ago
        Not for everyone. Do you really think Google wouldn't do anything about as blockers? Especially now that no ads is one of the selling points of YouTube Premium?
        crazygringo 1y ago
        Have you tried? There's a strength setting to the extension. At max strength it's been blocking all YT ads for a while. And it doesn't matter what I think about it. I'm giving you facts not opinions.
- Arnt 1y ago
  Well, maybe. Personally I believe that the browser is intended to defend against e.g. Facebook's apps. Google wants to make sure that if you buy a new device and it comes with a Facebook app preinstalled, it also comes with a browser. And that the browser isn't controlled by anyone who'd like to disrupt any of Google's many nice income streams.

victorbjorklund 1y ago

The browser totally has zero to do with google ads. Totally no connection at all.

alxeder 1y ago
the browser did limit the capabilities of adblockers quite drastically lately, but this is surly a coincidence.
- deleted 1y ago
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- Arnt 1y ago
  People keep saying that. There are two problems with that, namely ① Google's own ads are easy to block using the new API and ② the new API is effective at blocking various evil attacks. If Google wanted to get rid of ad blockers, I'm sure they could come up with an API that does a better job than that. https://textslashplain.com/2024/10/13/content-blocking-in-manifest-v3/ https://textslashplain.com/2024/10/13/content-blocking-in-ma... shows a ten-line ad blocker that blocks Google's ads, https://github.com/extesy/hoverzoom/discussions/670 https://github.com/extesy/hoverzoom/discussions/670 is a list of polite email messages from people who'd like to have elevated access to browsers.
  - Rohansi 1y ago
    Don't forget about YouTube!
    - crazygringo 1y ago
      What about YouTube? uBlock Origin Lite blocks YouTube ads just fine.
      - Rohansi 1y ago
        Not for everyone. Do you really think Google wouldn't do anything about as blockers? Especially now that no ads is one of the selling points of YouTube Premium?
        crazygringo 1y ago
        Have you tried? There's a strength setting to the extension. At max strength it's been blocking all YT ads for a while. And it doesn't matter what I think about it. I'm giving you facts not opinions.
Arnt 1y ago
Well, maybe. Personally I believe that the browser is intended to defend against e.g. Facebook's apps. Google wants to make sure that if you buy a new device and it comes with a Facebook app preinstalled, it also comes with a browser. And that the browser isn't controlled by anyone who'd like to disrupt any of Google's many nice income streams.