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How to grow almost anything
- mensetmanusman 1y agoA spiritual successor to: https://fab.cba.mit.edu/classes/MAS.863/ https://fab.cba.mit.edu/classes/MAS.863/
- faresahmed 1y agoOff topic, but Notion is a perfect example of how badly you can abuse web standards. This webpage, which is a document with some markup and links (the very thing the web was made for) takes ~600MB RAM, about 10 seconds load, and lags terribly. Just unusable.
- brcmthrowaway 1y agoWhat if you used the app?
- amelius 1y agoAlso, my screen is 20 inches wide, yet the website uses only 25% of that width.
- LargoLasskhyfv 1y agoOn 24" it looks ok at 150% with vertical tabs to the side.
- Marciplan 1y agohate Notion but also it took 2s to load on iOS safari
- packetlost 1y agoNotion has really great ideas though, it's just so poorly implemented that it really hurts my desire to use it for anything unless forced to.
- alwa 1y agoIt was such a breath of fresh air in the beginning, when it was simple, elegant, and focused. Shame they had to cram it to the gills with half-considered cruft.
- AngryData 1y agoWow it is horrible. I clicked on the link to load it, tabbed back to this comment page and read this comment, went back to the page to see how it was doing and got 99% blank page, scrolled for a solid 10 seconds and just as I was about to come back and say the page is broken for me it popped up a proper scroll bar for a window about 1/3 of my browser size. Scrolled through about 5-6 pages worth of that which still looked broken, then the window finally resized and images started popping in, but it still took another 7 seconds or so for those to load an actual image instead of just a placeholder icon while everything shifted around like mad.
- joseda-hg 1y agoIt would appear it waits until it's in focus to load/do certain things
- Aurornis 1y agoNotion sites aren’t my favorite and this website has some annoying quirks (like scrolling to the top after fully loading) But if this is what it takes for someone to generously share so much information with us for free then I really don’t care if I have to wait a couple extra seconds for a page load or if a tab takes up 600MB of RAM. I know this thinking makes the web purists angry, but the majority of people who visit these sites to learn aren’t going to be impeded or even bothered. Even on my older iPhone on non-5G cellular it loads in a couple of seconds.
- onoesworkacct 1y agoIf MIT were responsible, sure! But Notion is a $10b company that shouldn't be shitting up my device's free memory just to show a basic webpage. Very much the same deal with FB marketplace which is probably the worst offender. Not everyone has a fast device also.
- xnorswap 1y agoIt's more than a few seconds. On a desktop with a stable fast connection, it takes up to 1GB of RAM and ~17 seconds to finish loading, including around 2.5 seconds of processing time. On the network side it makes ~650 requests. That's an exceptionally resource hungry way to load the content.
- Noumenon72 1y agoThis varies more than I'd guess by machine. On my Comcast Wifi, it takes 37 seconds to load on my tablet but only 4 seconds to load on my work M3 Macbook Pro with 64 GB of RAM. Maybe Notion developers are issued the latter.
- kogasa240p 1y agoSite doesn't even work on Pale Moon, and judging from your comment that's probably a good thing.
- crystal_revenge 1y agoWhenever I use Notion I can feel the PM working there being pushed to ship a new feature this quarter; you can almost hear the engineers asking “why are we building this?” A few years back Notion was excellent modulo a few small UX things that could be improved. Now those small things still haven’t been improved but there’s way more clutter worsening the UX notably over time.
- TremendousJudge 1y agoHow many years back? I worked for a company that used Notion for its docs in 2019 and it was already slow and bloated then.
- apt-apt-apt-apt 1y agoWait till you see my React Native <TextInput> chew through 2 - 3.8 GB RAM for a 1 MB string..
- JimDabell 1y agoThat’s Notion in a nutshell really. Nice UX when it works, but no attention to quality. I’ve lost count of the number of big, obvious bugs I’ve tripped over that they seemingly have no interest in fixing.
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- karanveer 1y agoi have slighlty old iphone and boy the notion app is crazy laggy. You are right, i saw a video where the guys spent everything literally on UI design, even that video had comments saying, should have invested in an efficient backend.
- pavel_lishin 1y agoEven the app itself is getting slower. I loved it, and I've been using it for about three years, mostly for taking D&D notes - and it's getting slower and slower on my laptop (though it's still quite good on the phone.)
- graemep 1y agoTurn off JS. Hit the back button whenever a page says JS is required, unless you want to read it badly enough to wait for it. The web is much better that way.
- the__alchemist 1y agoWarning to anyone who goes down this rabbit hole: If you set up a home lab, don't tell people who you're not close with. There's a very good chance they'll assume you're (if they're a normie) making coronavirus or meth, and (If they're a biologist or chemist) assume you're not disposing of reagents and cultures properly. I wish this wasn't the case, but as a society, we're not ready to talk about bio outside of institutions and universities. Also, the costs are deceptive, even with used or Chinese parts: I estimate $10k USD for a usable molecular bio lab, including equipment and reagents.
- Aurornis 1y ago> There's a very good chance they'll assume you're (if they're a normie) making coronavirus or meth, and (If they're a biologist or chemist) assume you're not disposing of reagents and cultures properly. I don’t have a full bio lab but I do have a lot of various lab equipment and do things at home that aren’t typical hobbyist projects. I haven’t found this to be a problem at all. I also don’t mentally segregate the world into “normies”, which honestly helps a lot. In my experience people who develop a chip on their shoulder about their geek hobbies and start describing other people as “normies” bring a lot of these problems upon themselves. It helps a lot to just talk to people like peers and also know when people just aren’t interested in talking about your certain hobbies.
- the__alchemist 1y agoGreat points. I've heard the term used in different context, and don't consider it a pejorative.
- OJFord 1y agoI don't think GP does either, other than 'self-perjorative'. At least that's how I see it - a sort of semi-self-deprecating acknowledgement that the speaker is not 'a normie' (whatever that means, really).
- Aurornis 1y agoThe root problem is segregating the world into buckets like that. Whether its being used in the condescending version or the self-deprecating version is beside the point. When you go into social situations sizing people up as “normie” or not the preconceived ideas about the other people become an obstacle for communication.
- jonstewart 1y agoOh, I thought there’d be some tips for my rhubarb.
- adyashakti 1y agodangerous knowledge in the wrong hands
- PaulRobinson 1y agoAll knowledge is dangerous in the wrong hands. Want to know how to secure your computer? In the wrong hands, that gives somebody information on how to break into insecure computers. Want to know how to slice an onion properly and safely? Oh, so now you want to teach people how to efficiently use knives, the most ancient of offensive weapons? I guess you want to teach your children how to play nice with other kids and have a healthy school environment? Well, some people are going to use that knowledge to understand how to emotionally abuse children. You're a monster. /s Focus on motivations and safeguards of the attack vectors, not limiting the spread of knowledge.
- markdown 1y agoDamn, I thought this was going to be about tissue culture or horticulture in general.
- 0xbadcafebee 1y agoThought this was for plants, womp womp. We should have already made super-seeds that you can plant in concrete and grow all the tomatoes you'll need in a month with a single LED. Why be dependent on Big Ag or imports from Chile for tasteless nutritionless environment-poisoned overpriced veg if you could grow it in a closet? Saves water, saves power, saves the environment, tastes better, better for you, cheaper. We just need a lot of bio nerds (and a few billion $) to develop it.
- dyauspitr 1y agoI mean there are considerations. Something like that would be insanely invasive and overrun most ecosystems in years.
- bravesoul2 1y agoWhy not have the food grow in your stomach. Direct consumption. Put the LED there too.
- ponector 1y agoAnd a state-of-the-art AI-powered app for this!
- tanseydavid 1y ago...with a monthly subscription price (and a non-zero chance of them bricking you -- probably intentionally so that they can sell you another you).
- bravesoul2 1y agoGotta get VC funded after all, right!
- nkmnz 1y agoWhy not have the food grow in your skin. Use the fusion reactor in the sky.
- gtsnexp 1y agoHere is where everything started: https://cba.mit.edu/classes/index.html https://cba.mit.edu/classes/index.html
- dirkc 1y agoI like seeing courses created like this. I also wish there were more good tools to create rich/custom experiences yet are simple to host and durable.
- karanveer 1y agomy mind broke just being on the first page.
- Seanambers 1y agoomg notion is horrendous