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Crush: Glamourous AI coding agent for your favourite terminal

367 points by nateb2022 1y ago

cristea 1y ago
I would love a comparison between all these new tools, like this with Claude Code, opencode, aider and cortex. I just can’t get an easy overview of how each tool works and is different
- riotnrrd 1y ago
  One of the difficulties -- and one that is currently a big problem in LLM research -- is that comparisons with or evaluations of commercial models are very expensive. I co-wrote a paper recently and we spent more than $10,000 on various SOTA commercial models in order to evaluate our research. We could easily (an cheaply) show that we were much better than open-weight models, but we knew that reviewers would ding us if we didn't compare to "the best." Even aside from the expense (which penalizes universities and smaller labs), I feel it's a bad idea to require academic research to compare itself to opaque commercial offerings. We have very little detail on what's really happening when OpenAI for example does inference. And their technology stack and model can change at any time, and users won't know unless they carefully re-benchmark ($$$) every time you use the model. I feel that academic journals should discourage comparisons to commercial models, unless we have very precise information about the architecture, engineering stack, and training data they use.
  - tough 1y ago
    you have the separate the model , from the interface, imho. you can totally evaluate these as GUI's, and CLI's and TUI's with more or less features and connectors. Model quality is about benchmarks. aider is great at showing benchmarks for their users gemini-cli now tells you % of correct tools ending a session
- imjonse 1y ago
  This used to be opencode but was renamed after some fallout between the devs I think.
  - beanjuiceII 1y ago
    yea two of the devs did a crazy rug pull
    - tough 1y ago
      lmao weirdest stuff ever on X and it seems like nobody cares anymore?
  - moozilla 1y ago
    If anyone is curious on the context: https://x.com/thdxr/status/1933561254481666466 https://x.com/thdxr/status/1933561254481666466 https://x.com/meowgorithm/status/1933593074820891062 https://x.com/meowgorithm/status/1933593074820891062 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCJBbVJ_wP0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCJBbVJ_wP0 Gemini summary of the above: - Kujtim Hoxha creates a project named TermAI using open-source libraries from the company Charm. - Two other developers, Dax (a well-known internet personality and developer) and Adam (a developer and co-founder of Chef, known for his work on open-source and developer tools), join the project. - They rebrand it to OpenCode, with Dax buying the domain and both heavily promoting it and improving the UI/UX. - The project rapidly gains popularity and GitHub stars, largely due to Dax and Adam's influence and contributions. - Charm, the company behind the original libraries, offers Kujtim a full-time role to continue working on the project, effectively acqui-hiring him. - Kujtim accepts the offer. As the original owner of the GitHub repository, he moves the project and its stars to Charm's organization. Dax and Adam object, not wanting the community project to be owned by a VC-backed company. - Allegations surface that Charm rewrote git history to remove Dax's commits, banned Adam from the repo, and deleted comments that were critical of the move. - Dax and Adam, who own the opencode.ai domain and claim ownership of the brand they created, fork the original repo and launch their own version under the OpenCode name. - For a time, two competing projects named OpenCode exist, causing significant community confusion. - Following the public backlash, Charm eventually renames its version to Crush, ceding the OpenCode name to the project now maintained by Dax and Adam.
    - canadaduane 1y ago
      This is like game of thrones, dev edition. Thanks for the background. /me up and continues search for good people and good projects.
- paradite 1y ago
  The performance not only depends on the tool, it also depends on the model, and the codebase you are working on (context), and the task given (prompt). And all these factors are not independent. Some combinations work better than others. For example: - Claude Sonnet 4 might work well with feature implementation, on backend code python code using Claude Code. - Gemini 2.5 Pro works better for big fixes on frontend react codebases. ... So you can't just test the tools alone and keep everything else constant. Instead you get a combinatorial explosion of tool * model * context * prompt to test. 16x Eval can tackle parts of the problem, but it doesn't cover factors like tools yet. https://eval.16x.engineer/ https://eval.16x.engineer/
surrTurr 1y ago
looks cool - has anyone compared it to opencode[^1] yet? [1]: https://github.com/sst/opencode https://github.com/sst/opencode
- robbomacrae 1y ago
  Looks like this was the other opencode[0] and got (sensibly) rebranded: [0]: https://github.com/opencode-ai/opencode https://github.com/opencode-ai/opencode
  - esafak 1y ago
    Exactly right. Was this one just open sourced? I don't remember seeing it when the SST opensource debacle broke. They're both under heavy development: https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/pulse/monthly https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/pulse/monthly https://github.com/sst/opencode/pulse/monthly https://github.com/sst/opencode/pulse/monthly An unfortunate clash. I can say from experience that the sst version has a lot of issues that would benefit from more manpower, even though they are working hard. If only they could resolve their differences.
- eddyg 1y ago
  One big benefit of opencode is that it lets you authenticate to GitHub Copilot. This lets you switch between all the various models Copilot supports, which is really nice.
  - indigodaddy 1y ago
    What if you don’t have a copilot plan, can you still authenticate to your GitHub account and get some free tier level services ?
    - daliusd 1y ago
      https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/get-started/plans https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/get-started/plans You can get some, but model selection on free tier is smaller
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jekude 1y ago
Charmbracelet is amazing. Will there be an equivalent of Claude Code's CLAUDE.md files?
- wuster 1y ago
  it's CRUSH.md https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/main/CRUSH.md https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/main/CRUSH.md
- esafak 1y ago
  Please use https://agent.md/ https://agent.md/ https://github.com/agentmd/agent.md https://github.com/agentmd/agent.md
  - jekude 1y ago
    Nice, this definitely needs to be standardized
verdverm 1y ago
I don't get why terminal agents are so popular of late. Having spent more than a decade in terminal based development (vi*), and now fully moved over to a real IDE (vs code), it seems bonkers to me. The IDE is so much more... integrated
- Aperocky 1y ago
  Neo(lazy)vim user here.. not sure what I'm missing from IDE... Language server, check, Plugin ecosystem, check, Running tests on demand, check. lua sucks but that's an acceptable compromise as vimscript is worse.
  - __alexs 1y ago
    Mice are good and the terminal doesn't make the best use of the information density possible on modern displays.
    - procone 1y ago
      You can use a mouse with a terminal. Also one could argue that you opt into your own level of information density.
    - hnlmorg 1y ago
      My experience is the opposite. Terminal UIs make better use of information density because they don’t have ridiculous padding between widgets and other graphical chromes that modern GUIs have. Also terminals support mice. Have done for literally decades. Ultimately though, it just boils down to personal preference
    - nartho 1y ago
      Modern terminal emulators run at native resolution and support window splitting. You can have the exact same information density (I'd argue that a nice neovim environment has more information density than most IDEs since vs code and jetbrains seem to love putting extra space and padding everywhere now.)
Aperocky 1y ago
The big question - which one of these new agents can consume local models to a reasonable degree? I would like to ditch the dependency on external APIs - willing to trade some performance in lieu.
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- jasonm23 1y ago
  Crush has an open issue (2 weeks) to add Ollama support - it's in progress.
  - Aperocky 1y ago
    nice, that would be my reason to use Crush.
    - tempodox 1y ago
      Me too.
  - ggerganov 1y ago
    They should add "custom endpoint" support instead [0]. [0] https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/249605 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/249605
  - segmondy 1y ago
    why? it's basic, edit the config file. I just downloaded it, ~/.cache/share/crush/providers.json add your own or edit an existing one Edit api_endpoint, done.
  - amdivia 1y ago
    FYI it works already even without this feature branch (you'll just have to add your provider and models manually) ``` { "providers": { "ollama": { "type": "openai", "base_url": "http://localhost:11434/v1", "api_key": "ollama", "models": [ { "id": "llama3.2:3b", "model": "Llama 3.2 3B", "context_window": 131072, "default_max_tokens": 4096, "cost_per_1m_in": 0, "cost_per_1m_out": 0 } ] } } } ```
pizzalife 1y ago
Beautiful terminal interface, well done. For people using Crush, how do you feel it compares to Claude Code or Cursor?
fridder 1y ago
They mention FreeBSD support in the README so that adds a couple points
- throitallaway 1y ago
  All of Charmbracelet's open source stuff is Go-based, which supports a bunch of platforms.
  - graemep 1y ago
    This is not open source.
    - bsideup 1y ago
      "the Charm stuff" it is built on (and anyone else can use) is :) And that's the stuff most of the industry (e.g. GitHub CLI) is using, btw. Also, it looks like Crush has an irrevocable eventual fallback to MIT[1] allowing them to develop in open so you basically get all the bells and whistles available. We probably couldn't ask for more :) [1] https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/317c5dbfafc0ebda8b86f25e8e4c8cda281b8df2/LICENSE#L87 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/317c5dbfafc0ebda...
      - FergusArgyll 1y ago
        That's a nice framework, does anyone else do that?
        Arcuru 1y ago
        There is a list of companies using the FSL at https://fsl.software/ https://fsl.software/
Nullabillity 1y ago
RIP charm, I guess.
- mcpar-land 1y ago
  A little disappointed to see Charm hop on AI as well.
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- tauraamui 1y ago
  They're not pivoting to go all in.
mbladra 1y ago
Woah I love the UI. Compared to the other coding agents I've used (eg. Claude Code, aider, opencode) this feels like the most enjoyable to use so far.. Anyone try switching LLM providers with it yet? That's something I've noticed to be a bit buggy with other coding agents
- bachittle 1y ago
  Bubble Tea has always been an amazing TUI. I find React TUI (which is what Claude Code uses) to be buggy and always have to work against it.
  - tbeseda 1y ago
    Agreed. Charm has a solid track record of great TUIs. While I appreciate a good DSL, I don't think React for a TUI (via ink) is working out well.
- petesergeant 1y ago
  Yes, me too. The inline syntax highlighting is very nice. I hope CC steals liberally.
apwell23 1y ago
sucks that i can't use any of these because claude code has me in golden handcuffs. I don't care about the cli but for a hobbyist i can't afford to call llm apis directly.
- epiccoleman 1y ago
  I've been meaning to try out Opencode on the basis of this comment from a few weeks back where one of the devs indicated that Claude Pro subscriptions worked with Opencode: > opencode kinda cheats by using Antropic client ID and pretending to be Claude Code, so it can use your existing subscription. [1] I'd definitely like to see Anthropic provide a better way for the user's choice of clients to take advantage of the subscription. The way things stand today, I feel like I'm left with no choice but to stick to Claude Code for sonnet models and try out cool tools like this one with local models. Now, with all that said, I did recently have Claude code me up a POC where I used Playwright to automate the Claude desktop app, with the idea being that you could put an API in front of it and take advantage of subscription pricing. I didn't continue messing with it once the concept was proved, but I guess if you really wanted to you could probably hack something together (though I imagine you'd be giving up a lot by ramming interactions through Claude Desktop in this manner). [2] [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44488262 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44488262 [2]: https://github.com/epiccoleman/claude-automator https://github.com/epiccoleman/claude-automator
  - unshavedyak 1y ago
    I thought Claude Code (sub) could work with alternate UIs, no? Eg doesn't Neovim have a Claude Code plugin? I want to say there are one or two more as well. Though i think in Neovims case they had to reverse engineer the API calls for Claude Code. Perhaps that's against the TOS. Regardless i have the intention to make something similar, so hopefully it's not against the TOS lol.
    - apwell23 1y ago
      i use neovim plugin for cc but it just launches cc in a terminal inside neovim. its not an alternate UI.
apwell23 1y ago
can you slow down the gif
- wglb 1y ago
  Yes, someone has. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44738004 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44738004
anonzzzies 1y ago
Another one, but indeed very nice looking. Will definitely be testing it. What I miss from all of these (EDIT: I see opencode has this for github) is the lack of being able to authenticate with the monthly paid services; github copilot, claude code, openai codex, cursor etc etc That would be the best addition; I have these subscriptions and might not like their interfaces, so it would be nice to be able to switch.
- MrGreenTea 1y ago
  I don't think most of these allow other tools to "use" the monthly subscription. Because of that you need an API key and have to pay per tokens. Even Claude code for a while did not use your Claude subscription.
  - anonzzzies 1y ago
    But now they have a subscription for claude code , copilot has a sub and some others too. They might not allow it, but whatever; we are paying, so what's the big deal.
  - apwell23 1y ago
    Opencode does
tptacek 1y ago
One nice thing about this is that it's early days for this, and the code is really clear and schematic, so if you ever wanted a blueprint for how to lay out an agent with tool calls and sessions and automatic summarization and persistence, save this commit link.
- chrisweekly 1y ago
  Thanks for the tip! I trust your judgement so this repo just got more interesting for me.
- hollerith 1y ago
  The commit link is https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/releases/tag/v0.1.8 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/releases/tag/v0.1.8
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Alifatisk 1y ago
Oh, it’s by Charm_!
jsnell 1y ago
I find it strange how most of these terminal-based AI coding agents have ended up with these attempts at making text UIs flashy. Tons of whitespace, line art, widgets, ascii art and gradients, and now apparently animations. And then what you don't get is the full suite of expected keybindings, tab completion, consistent scrollback, or even flicker-free text rendering. (At least this one seems to not be written with node.js, so I guess there's some chance that the terminal output is optimized to minimize large redraws?). So they just don't tend to work at all like you'd expect a REPL or a CLI to work, despite having exactly the same interaction model of executing command prompts. But they also don't feel at all like fullscreen Unix TUIs normally would, whether we're talking editors or reader programs (mail readers, news readers, browsers). Is this just all the new entrants copying Claude Code, or did this trend get started even earlier than that? (This is one of the reasons Aider is still my go-to; it looks and feels the way a REPL is supposed to.)
- bdhcuidbebe 1y ago
  > I find it strange how most of these terminal-based AI coding agents have ended up with these attempts at making text UIs flashy. Its next gen script kids.
  - jrm4 1y ago
    If true, GOOD. I 100% unironically believe we're better off more script kiddies today, not fewer.
    - wglb 1y ago
      Out of curiosity, why is that?
      - anp 1y ago
        Not GP but as a 90s kid who didn’t learn programming until my 20s my impression is that script kiddies with cute hacks are a huge source of creativity. And maybe even playful tools, which I personally enjoy. Something about not focusing on deep programming or tech maybe makes it easier to just have fun and accomplish your goals.
lvl155 1y ago
Someone please make/release a Rust CLI. OpenAI what are you doing with Codex?
- terhechte 1y ago
  https://github.com/bosun-ai/kwaak https://github.com/bosun-ai/kwaak
- mschrage 1y ago
  Check out the Q CLI. It's an open source terminal coding agent written in Rust. https://github.com/aws/amazon-q-developer-cli https://github.com/aws/amazon-q-developer-cli
- philbo 1y ago
  https://github.com/block/goose https://github.com/block/goose
- backscratches 1y ago
  maybe the oldest and most popular is written in rust! https://github.com/sigoden/aichat https://github.com/sigoden/aichat
cedws 1y ago
I'm happy to see some LLM tooling in Go, I really don't want to touch anything to do with JavaScript/npm/Python if I can help it. I'm guessing building this is what Charm raised the funds for.
- dwaltrip 1y ago
  Can’t hate on JS anymore, we have typescript now :)
  - cedws 1y ago
    If anything it makes me hate it more, because now you have a variety of build systems, even more node_modules heaviness, and ample opportunities for supply chain attacks via opaque transpiled npm packages.
    - 8n4vidtmkvmk 1y ago
      Fwiw, I compile to readable JS. No point minifying. If someone wants to use it in an app, they will do so anyway
    - SwiftyBug 1y ago
      I completely agree with you, but let's not pretend that Go's dependency manager is free from supply chain attacks vulnerabilities. The whole module mirror shenanigans took a hit on my trust of Go's module management.
      - cedws 1y ago
        Go still has one of the best supply chain security stories of any language.
ianbutler 1y ago
I am starring this just for aesthetic absolutely nailed it.
m3kw9 1y ago
Why not use Aider?
- rane 1y ago
  Aider is not agentic.
  - beacon294 1y ago
    Could you provide some specific details about what is missing? I've been super busy studying and haven't been able to keep up with the gap between Aider and other tools. thank you!
    - daliusd 1y ago
      E.g. aider does not support MCP https://github.com/Aider-AI/aider/issues/3314 https://github.com/Aider-AI/aider/issues/3314 I personally found MCP a must for some scenarios
      - beacon294 1y ago
        Do you mind sharing your anecdote about mcp being useful? I haven't had time to experiment and I'm trying to learn from others time on the grind stone.
        daliusd 1y ago
        Yes. Some ideas. All they are especially useful if you had to work with some non public stuff: * Search GitHub for ideas how to use API, best practices and etc. * Convert Figma design to code * In slack-driver development companies you can even search Slack for ideas
    - rane 1y ago
      Aider will follow through a single, rather specific request, from the user, which will generally result in changes one or more files that you need to explicitly add to the context. Claude Code on the other hand, based on user's request, is capable of: - researching the codebase to understand what needs to be done - planning a TODO list for itself - implementing the TODO list item by item - running tests or typecheck etc. and iterating until checks pass Basically if you give a sufficiently detailed plan as markdown to CC, it is capable of autonomously implementing the plan from start to finish, and that could even take something like 20 minutes.
gustavojoaquin 1y ago
based
ascorbic 1y ago
It's "glamorous", even in UK English. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/glamorous https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/glamorou...
dennisy 1y ago
Looks cool, but do we need another one of these?
827a 1y ago
One thing I'm curious about: Assuming you're using the same underlying models, and putting obvious pricing differences aside: What is the functional difference between e.g. Charm and Claude Code? And Cursor, putting aside the obvious advantages running in a GUI brings and that integration. Is there secret sauce that would make one better than the other? Available tools? The internal prompting and context engineering that the tool does for you? Again, assuming the model is the same, how similar should one expect the output from one to another be?
- azemetre 1y ago
  I would honestly think no, what couldn't be reversed engineered eventually? We see this all the time. Am curious about such results, it's one thing to think it's another to know! :D
  - 827a 1y ago
    Yeah and as far as I know, both Claude Code and obviously Crush here are open source. Cursor isn't, but their code is probably just sitting in javascript in the application bundle and should be reversible if it actually mattered?
- segmondy 1y ago
  the secret sauce will be the available tools, prompting, context engineering, etc, yup whatever "agentic algorithm" has been built in.
xxzure 1y ago
So what are the differences between this one, Claude Code and Gemini CLI?
- yoavm 1y ago
  Claude Code uses Claude, Gemini CLI uses Gemini, and this one can be configured to use any model you want.
- bluelightning2k 1y ago
  Claude Code and Gemini CLI (and OpenAI Codex) are first party from the respective companies. But also kind of products - in extreme cases people pay $200/month for Claude Code and get $thousands and thousands of usage. There's product bundling there beyond just the interface. I think Claude Code specifically has a reputation for being a 1st class citizen - as in the model is trained and evalled on that specific toolcall syntax.
NitpickLawyer 1y ago
> LSP-Enhanced: Crush uses LSPs for additional context, just like you do This is the most interesting feature IMO, interested to see how this pans out. The multiple sessions / project also seems interesting.
- esafak 1y ago
  There are LSP MCPs so you can use them with other agents too.
  - NitpickLawyer 1y ago
    I'm not really into golang, but if I read this [1] correctly, they seem to append the LSP stuff to every prompt, and automatically after each tool that supports it? It seems a bit more "integrated" than just an MCP. [1] - https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/317c5dbfafc0ebda8b86f25e8e4c8cda281b8df2/internal/llm/prompt/coder.go#L32 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/317c5dbfafc0ebda...
    - tough 1y ago
      remarkably both Cursor and Zed do this (GUI, not CLI)
anthk 1y ago
No, thanks. I prefer the old way. Books, some editor (I like both emacs or nvi), books with exercises, and maybe some autocomplete setup for function names/procedures, token words and the like.
tekacs 1y ago
For anyone else who wants to actually be able to _read_ what's happening in the demo GIF, I slowed it down in ffmpeg and converted it to video form: https://share.cleanshot.com/XBXQbSPP https://share.cleanshot.com/XBXQbSPP
- camgunz 1y ago
  Low effort comment but an upvote felt inadequate: thanks!
indigodaddy 1y ago
Is Groq still “free” ? Anyone tested Crush with a Groq free key to see how mileage you can get out of it?
LouisvilleGeek 1y ago
Looks "Glamourous" but lacks the basics: Up / down history Copy text Other than these issues feels much nicer than Claude Code since the screen does not shake violently.
dgunay 1y ago
Played with it a bit. So far it lacks some key functionality for my use case: I need to be able to launch an interactive session with a prefilled prompt. I like to spawn tmux sessions running an agent with a prompt in a single command, and then check in on it later if any followup prompting is needed. Other papercuts: no up/down history, and the "open editor" command appears to do nothing. Still, it's a _ridiculously_ pretty app. 5 stars. Would that all TUIs were this pleasing to look at.
- bewuethr 1y ago
  There is history scrolling, you have to focus on the chat with tab first.
r0dms 1y ago
I’ve been playing with Crush over the past few weeks and I’m genuinely bullish on its potential. I've been following Charm for some time and they’re one of the few groups that get DX and that consistently ship tools that developers love. Love seeing them joining the AI coding race. Still early days, but this is clearly a tool made by people who actually use it.
ryanmcbride 1y ago
Trying this on windows after installing from npm and when it asks for my chatgpt api key, doesn't seem to let me paste it, or type anything, or submit at all. Just sits there until I either go back or force quit. edit: setting the key as an env variable works tho.
arthurcolle 1y ago
Why does this require XCode 26 to be installed instead of XCode 16? Silly
dedpool 1y ago
This one feels refreshing. It’s written in Go, and the TUI is pretty slick. I’ve been running Qwen Coder 3 on a GPU cluster with 2 B200s at $2 per hour, getting 320k context windows and burning through millions of tokens without paying closed labs for API calls.
- yahoozoo 1y ago
  Are you using a service for the GPU cluster?
- segmondy 1y ago
  how many tk/sec are you getting on that setup especially when you have 100k+ tokens?
- beacon294 1y ago
  I'd like to try this out, are you renting on one of the open renting platforms?
bluelightning2k 1y ago
Is this the company that did shady things by buying an open source repo and kicking out the contributors? Something to do with OpenCode or SST or something idk. Could be a different company ?
- teh_klev 1y ago
  Yes, this is that company. This is the "original": https://github.com/sst/opencode https://github.com/sst/opencode
rawkode 1y ago
How to handle an OSS dispute where you're the baddy: rebrand and hope nobody notices. Let's not forget they're the company that bought an OSS project, OpenCode, and tried to "steal" it
- mccoyb 1y ago
  You're talking about the wrong company. This is not the company you think it is. These are the creators of `bubbletea`, a popular TUI framework in Go.
  - backscratches 1y ago
    it is the same company
    - mccoyb 1y ago
      Thanks, you're right -- I was wrong.
- n00bskoolbus 1y ago
  I'm unfamiliar with this. How would they steal it if they bought the open source project?
- nsonha 1y ago
  I think you're pretty clueless to make that claim, they bought something, not stole, and one out of the 3 core contributors (who is also the original creator or the project) agreed. You should form an opinion based on logic and facts, not who you follow.
insane_dreamer 1y ago
Other than switching LLMs, if I'm already mostly using Claude, any reason to use this over CC? One problem with these agents is that the tokens don't count for your Claude Max subscription. (Same reason I use CC instead of Zed's AI agent.)
- bazhand 1y ago
  opencode allows auth via Anthropic to enable claude max subscription.
alixanderwang 1y ago
Played around with it for a serious task for 15 mins. Compared to Claude Code: Pros: - Beautiful UI - Useful sidebar, keep track of changed files, cost - Better UX for accepting changes (has hotkeys, shows nicer diff) Cons: - Can't combine models. Claude Code using a combination of Haiku for menial search stuff and Sonnet for thinking is nice. - Adds a lot of unexplained junk binary files in your directory. It's probably in the docs somewhere I guess. - The initial init makes some CHARM.md that tries to be helpful, but everything it had did not seem like helpful things I want the model to know. Simple stuff, like, my Go tests use PascalCasing, e.g. TestCompile. - Ctrl+C to exit crashed my terminal.
- jimmcslim 1y ago
  > The initial init makes some CHARM.md Oh god please no... can we please just agree on a standard for a well-known single agent instructions file, like AGENT.md [1] perhaps (and yes, this is the standard being shilled by Amp for their CLI tool, I appreciate the irony there). Otherwise we rely on hacks like this [2] [1] https://ampcode.com/AGENT.md https://ampcode.com/AGENT.md [2] https://kau.sh/blog/agents-md/ https://kau.sh/blog/agents-md/
  - cwlb 1y ago
    imo they should all support AGENT.md, but because of differences in tools, you often need an additional file per-agent.
jemiluv8 1y ago
Wondered how claude code would look like if it was built by the people over at charmbracelet. I suppose this is it The terminal is so ideal for agentic coding and the more interactive the better. I personally would like to be able to enter multiline text in a more intuitive way in claude code. This nails it.
yahoozoo 1y ago
Can you integrate this with/forward through a GitHub Copilot subscription?
bazhand 1y ago
Very interesting to see so many new TUI tools for llm. Opencode allows auth via Claude Max, which is a huge plus over requiring API (ANTHROPIC_API_KEY)
jpadamspdx 1y ago
Thanks Charm team for jumping on my feature request so I can really put Crush through its paces with https://container-use.com https://container-use.com. https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/issues/424 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/issues/424 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/pull/443 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/pull/443
094459 1y ago
Beware folks, I got directed to it by someone saying this was open source but it isn't.

367 points by nateb2022 1y ago

I would love a comparison between all these new tools, like this with Claude Code, opencode, aider and cortex. I just can’t get an easy overview of how each tool works and is different

riotnrrd 1y ago
One of the difficulties -- and one that is currently a big problem in LLM research -- is that comparisons with or evaluations of commercial models are very expensive. I co-wrote a paper recently and we spent more than $10,000 on various SOTA commercial models in order to evaluate our research. We could easily (an cheaply) show that we were much better than open-weight models, but we knew that reviewers would ding us if we didn't compare to "the best." Even aside from the expense (which penalizes universities and smaller labs), I feel it's a bad idea to require academic research to compare itself to opaque commercial offerings. We have very little detail on what's really happening when OpenAI for example does inference. And their technology stack and model can change at any time, and users won't know unless they carefully re-benchmark ($$$) every time you use the model. I feel that academic journals should discourage comparisons to commercial models, unless we have very precise information about the architecture, engineering stack, and training data they use.
- tough 1y ago
  you have the separate the model , from the interface, imho. you can totally evaluate these as GUI's, and CLI's and TUI's with more or less features and connectors. Model quality is about benchmarks. aider is great at showing benchmarks for their users gemini-cli now tells you % of correct tools ending a session
imjonse 1y ago
This used to be opencode but was renamed after some fallout between the devs I think.
- beanjuiceII 1y ago
  yea two of the devs did a crazy rug pull
  - tough 1y ago
    lmao weirdest stuff ever on X and it seems like nobody cares anymore?
- moozilla 1y ago
  If anyone is curious on the context: https://x.com/thdxr/status/1933561254481666466 https://x.com/thdxr/status/1933561254481666466 https://x.com/meowgorithm/status/1933593074820891062 https://x.com/meowgorithm/status/1933593074820891062 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCJBbVJ_wP0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCJBbVJ_wP0 Gemini summary of the above: - Kujtim Hoxha creates a project named TermAI using open-source libraries from the company Charm. - Two other developers, Dax (a well-known internet personality and developer) and Adam (a developer and co-founder of Chef, known for his work on open-source and developer tools), join the project. - They rebrand it to OpenCode, with Dax buying the domain and both heavily promoting it and improving the UI/UX. - The project rapidly gains popularity and GitHub stars, largely due to Dax and Adam's influence and contributions. - Charm, the company behind the original libraries, offers Kujtim a full-time role to continue working on the project, effectively acqui-hiring him. - Kujtim accepts the offer. As the original owner of the GitHub repository, he moves the project and its stars to Charm's organization. Dax and Adam object, not wanting the community project to be owned by a VC-backed company. - Allegations surface that Charm rewrote git history to remove Dax's commits, banned Adam from the repo, and deleted comments that were critical of the move. - Dax and Adam, who own the opencode.ai domain and claim ownership of the brand they created, fork the original repo and launch their own version under the OpenCode name. - For a time, two competing projects named OpenCode exist, causing significant community confusion. - Following the public backlash, Charm eventually renames its version to Crush, ceding the OpenCode name to the project now maintained by Dax and Adam.
  - canadaduane 1y ago
    This is like game of thrones, dev edition. Thanks for the background. /me up and continues search for good people and good projects.
paradite 1y ago
The performance not only depends on the tool, it also depends on the model, and the codebase you are working on (context), and the task given (prompt). And all these factors are not independent. Some combinations work better than others. For example: - Claude Sonnet 4 might work well with feature implementation, on backend code python code using Claude Code. - Gemini 2.5 Pro works better for big fixes on frontend react codebases. ... So you can't just test the tools alone and keep everything else constant. Instead you get a combinatorial explosion of tool * model * context * prompt to test. 16x Eval can tackle parts of the problem, but it doesn't cover factors like tools yet. https://eval.16x.engineer/ https://eval.16x.engineer/

surrTurr 1y ago

looks cool - has anyone compared it to opencode[^1] yet? [1]: https://github.com/sst/opencode https://github.com/sst/opencode

robbomacrae 1y ago
Looks like this was the other opencode[0] and got (sensibly) rebranded: [0]: https://github.com/opencode-ai/opencode https://github.com/opencode-ai/opencode
- esafak 1y ago
  Exactly right. Was this one just open sourced? I don't remember seeing it when the SST opensource debacle broke. They're both under heavy development: https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/pulse/monthly https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/pulse/monthly https://github.com/sst/opencode/pulse/monthly https://github.com/sst/opencode/pulse/monthly An unfortunate clash. I can say from experience that the sst version has a lot of issues that would benefit from more manpower, even though they are working hard. If only they could resolve their differences.
eddyg 1y ago
One big benefit of opencode is that it lets you authenticate to GitHub Copilot. This lets you switch between all the various models Copilot supports, which is really nice.
- indigodaddy 1y ago
  What if you don’t have a copilot plan, can you still authenticate to your GitHub account and get some free tier level services ?
  - daliusd 1y ago
    https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/get-started/plans https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/get-started/plans You can get some, but model selection on free tier is smaller

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jekude 1y ago

Charmbracelet is amazing. Will there be an equivalent of Claude Code's CLAUDE.md files?

wuster 1y ago
it's CRUSH.md https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/main/CRUSH.md https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/main/CRUSH.md
esafak 1y ago
Please use https://agent.md/ https://agent.md/ https://github.com/agentmd/agent.md https://github.com/agentmd/agent.md
- jekude 1y ago
  Nice, this definitely needs to be standardized

verdverm 1y ago

I don't get why terminal agents are so popular of late. Having spent more than a decade in terminal based development (vi*), and now fully moved over to a real IDE (vs code), it seems bonkers to me. The IDE is so much more... integrated

Aperocky 1y ago
Neo(lazy)vim user here.. not sure what I'm missing from IDE... Language server, check, Plugin ecosystem, check, Running tests on demand, check. lua sucks but that's an acceptable compromise as vimscript is worse.
- __alexs 1y ago
  Mice are good and the terminal doesn't make the best use of the information density possible on modern displays.
  - procone 1y ago
    You can use a mouse with a terminal. Also one could argue that you opt into your own level of information density.
  - hnlmorg 1y ago
    My experience is the opposite. Terminal UIs make better use of information density because they don’t have ridiculous padding between widgets and other graphical chromes that modern GUIs have. Also terminals support mice. Have done for literally decades. Ultimately though, it just boils down to personal preference
  - nartho 1y ago
    Modern terminal emulators run at native resolution and support window splitting. You can have the exact same information density (I'd argue that a nice neovim environment has more information density than most IDEs since vs code and jetbrains seem to love putting extra space and padding everywhere now.)

Aperocky 1y ago

The big question - which one of these new agents can consume local models to a reasonable degree? I would like to ditch the dependency on external APIs - willing to trade some performance in lieu.

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jasonm23 1y ago
Crush has an open issue (2 weeks) to add Ollama support - it's in progress.
- Aperocky 1y ago
  nice, that would be my reason to use Crush.
  - tempodox 1y ago
    Me too.
- ggerganov 1y ago
  They should add "custom endpoint" support instead [0]. [0] https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/249605 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/249605
- segmondy 1y ago
  why? it's basic, edit the config file. I just downloaded it, ~/.cache/share/crush/providers.json add your own or edit an existing one Edit api_endpoint, done.
- amdivia 1y ago
  FYI it works already even without this feature branch (you'll just have to add your provider and models manually) ``` { "providers": { "ollama": { "type": "openai", "base_url": "http://localhost:11434/v1", "api_key": "ollama", "models": [ { "id": "llama3.2:3b", "model": "Llama 3.2 3B", "context_window": 131072, "default_max_tokens": 4096, "cost_per_1m_in": 0, "cost_per_1m_out": 0 } ] } } } ```

pizzalife 1y ago

Beautiful terminal interface, well done. For people using Crush, how do you feel it compares to Claude Code or Cursor?

fridder 1y ago

They mention FreeBSD support in the README so that adds a couple points

throitallaway 1y ago
All of Charmbracelet's open source stuff is Go-based, which supports a bunch of platforms.
- graemep 1y ago
  This is not open source.
  - bsideup 1y ago
    "the Charm stuff" it is built on (and anyone else can use) is :) And that's the stuff most of the industry (e.g. GitHub CLI) is using, btw. Also, it looks like Crush has an irrevocable eventual fallback to MIT[1] allowing them to develop in open so you basically get all the bells and whistles available. We probably couldn't ask for more :) [1] https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/317c5dbfafc0ebda8b86f25e8e4c8cda281b8df2/LICENSE#L87 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/317c5dbfafc0ebda...
    - FergusArgyll 1y ago
      That's a nice framework, does anyone else do that?
      - Arcuru 1y ago
        There is a list of companies using the FSL at https://fsl.software/ https://fsl.software/

Nullabillity 1y ago

RIP charm, I guess.

mcpar-land 1y ago
A little disappointed to see Charm hop on AI as well.
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tauraamui 1y ago
They're not pivoting to go all in.

mbladra 1y ago

Woah I love the UI. Compared to the other coding agents I've used (eg. Claude Code, aider, opencode) this feels like the most enjoyable to use so far.. Anyone try switching LLM providers with it yet? That's something I've noticed to be a bit buggy with other coding agents

bachittle 1y ago
Bubble Tea has always been an amazing TUI. I find React TUI (which is what Claude Code uses) to be buggy and always have to work against it.
- tbeseda 1y ago
  Agreed. Charm has a solid track record of great TUIs. While I appreciate a good DSL, I don't think React for a TUI (via ink) is working out well.
petesergeant 1y ago
Yes, me too. The inline syntax highlighting is very nice. I hope CC steals liberally.

apwell23 1y ago

sucks that i can't use any of these because claude code has me in golden handcuffs. I don't care about the cli but for a hobbyist i can't afford to call llm apis directly.

epiccoleman 1y ago
I've been meaning to try out Opencode on the basis of this comment from a few weeks back where one of the devs indicated that Claude Pro subscriptions worked with Opencode: > opencode kinda cheats by using Antropic client ID and pretending to be Claude Code, so it can use your existing subscription. [1] I'd definitely like to see Anthropic provide a better way for the user's choice of clients to take advantage of the subscription. The way things stand today, I feel like I'm left with no choice but to stick to Claude Code for sonnet models and try out cool tools like this one with local models. Now, with all that said, I did recently have Claude code me up a POC where I used Playwright to automate the Claude desktop app, with the idea being that you could put an API in front of it and take advantage of subscription pricing. I didn't continue messing with it once the concept was proved, but I guess if you really wanted to you could probably hack something together (though I imagine you'd be giving up a lot by ramming interactions through Claude Desktop in this manner). [2] [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44488262 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44488262 [2]: https://github.com/epiccoleman/claude-automator https://github.com/epiccoleman/claude-automator
- unshavedyak 1y ago
  I thought Claude Code (sub) could work with alternate UIs, no? Eg doesn't Neovim have a Claude Code plugin? I want to say there are one or two more as well. Though i think in Neovims case they had to reverse engineer the API calls for Claude Code. Perhaps that's against the TOS. Regardless i have the intention to make something similar, so hopefully it's not against the TOS lol.
  - apwell23 1y ago
    i use neovim plugin for cc but it just launches cc in a terminal inside neovim. its not an alternate UI.

apwell23 1y ago

can you slow down the gif

wglb 1y ago
Yes, someone has. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44738004 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44738004

anonzzzies 1y ago

Another one, but indeed very nice looking. Will definitely be testing it. What I miss from all of these (EDIT: I see opencode has this for github) is the lack of being able to authenticate with the monthly paid services; github copilot, claude code, openai codex, cursor etc etc That would be the best addition; I have these subscriptions and might not like their interfaces, so it would be nice to be able to switch.

MrGreenTea 1y ago
I don't think most of these allow other tools to "use" the monthly subscription. Because of that you need an API key and have to pay per tokens. Even Claude code for a while did not use your Claude subscription.
- anonzzzies 1y ago
  But now they have a subscription for claude code , copilot has a sub and some others too. They might not allow it, but whatever; we are paying, so what's the big deal.
- apwell23 1y ago
  Opencode does

tptacek 1y ago

One nice thing about this is that it's early days for this, and the code is really clear and schematic, so if you ever wanted a blueprint for how to lay out an agent with tool calls and sessions and automatic summarization and persistence, save this commit link.

chrisweekly 1y ago
Thanks for the tip! I trust your judgement so this repo just got more interesting for me.
hollerith 1y ago
The commit link is https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/releases/tag/v0.1.8 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/releases/tag/v0.1.8

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Alifatisk 1y ago

Oh, it’s by Charm_!

jsnell 1y ago

I find it strange how most of these terminal-based AI coding agents have ended up with these attempts at making text UIs flashy. Tons of whitespace, line art, widgets, ascii art and gradients, and now apparently animations. And then what you don't get is the full suite of expected keybindings, tab completion, consistent scrollback, or even flicker-free text rendering. (At least this one seems to not be written with node.js, so I guess there's some chance that the terminal output is optimized to minimize large redraws?). So they just don't tend to work at all like you'd expect a REPL or a CLI to work, despite having exactly the same interaction model of executing command prompts. But they also don't feel at all like fullscreen Unix TUIs normally would, whether we're talking editors or reader programs (mail readers, news readers, browsers). Is this just all the new entrants copying Claude Code, or did this trend get started even earlier than that? (This is one of the reasons Aider is still my go-to; it looks and feels the way a REPL is supposed to.)

bdhcuidbebe 1y ago
> I find it strange how most of these terminal-based AI coding agents have ended up with these attempts at making text UIs flashy. Its next gen script kids.
- jrm4 1y ago
  If true, GOOD. I 100% unironically believe we're better off more script kiddies today, not fewer.
  - wglb 1y ago
    Out of curiosity, why is that?
    - anp 1y ago
      Not GP but as a 90s kid who didn’t learn programming until my 20s my impression is that script kiddies with cute hacks are a huge source of creativity. And maybe even playful tools, which I personally enjoy. Something about not focusing on deep programming or tech maybe makes it easier to just have fun and accomplish your goals.

lvl155 1y ago

Someone please make/release a Rust CLI. OpenAI what are you doing with Codex?

terhechte 1y ago
https://github.com/bosun-ai/kwaak https://github.com/bosun-ai/kwaak
mschrage 1y ago
Check out the Q CLI. It's an open source terminal coding agent written in Rust. https://github.com/aws/amazon-q-developer-cli https://github.com/aws/amazon-q-developer-cli
philbo 1y ago
https://github.com/block/goose https://github.com/block/goose
backscratches 1y ago
maybe the oldest and most popular is written in rust! https://github.com/sigoden/aichat https://github.com/sigoden/aichat

cedws 1y ago

I'm happy to see some LLM tooling in Go, I really don't want to touch anything to do with JavaScript/npm/Python if I can help it. I'm guessing building this is what Charm raised the funds for.

dwaltrip 1y ago
Can’t hate on JS anymore, we have typescript now :)
- cedws 1y ago
  If anything it makes me hate it more, because now you have a variety of build systems, even more node_modules heaviness, and ample opportunities for supply chain attacks via opaque transpiled npm packages.
  - 8n4vidtmkvmk 1y ago
    Fwiw, I compile to readable JS. No point minifying. If someone wants to use it in an app, they will do so anyway
  - SwiftyBug 1y ago
    I completely agree with you, but let's not pretend that Go's dependency manager is free from supply chain attacks vulnerabilities. The whole module mirror shenanigans took a hit on my trust of Go's module management.
    - cedws 1y ago
      Go still has one of the best supply chain security stories of any language.

ianbutler 1y ago

I am starring this just for aesthetic absolutely nailed it.

m3kw9 1y ago

Why not use Aider?

rane 1y ago
Aider is not agentic.
- beacon294 1y ago
  Could you provide some specific details about what is missing? I've been super busy studying and haven't been able to keep up with the gap between Aider and other tools. thank you!
  - daliusd 1y ago
    E.g. aider does not support MCP https://github.com/Aider-AI/aider/issues/3314 https://github.com/Aider-AI/aider/issues/3314 I personally found MCP a must for some scenarios
    - beacon294 1y ago
      Do you mind sharing your anecdote about mcp being useful? I haven't had time to experiment and I'm trying to learn from others time on the grind stone.
      - daliusd 1y ago
        Yes. Some ideas. All they are especially useful if you had to work with some non public stuff: * Search GitHub for ideas how to use API, best practices and etc. * Convert Figma design to code * In slack-driver development companies you can even search Slack for ideas
  - rane 1y ago
    Aider will follow through a single, rather specific request, from the user, which will generally result in changes one or more files that you need to explicitly add to the context. Claude Code on the other hand, based on user's request, is capable of: - researching the codebase to understand what needs to be done - planning a TODO list for itself - implementing the TODO list item by item - running tests or typecheck etc. and iterating until checks pass Basically if you give a sufficiently detailed plan as markdown to CC, it is capable of autonomously implementing the plan from start to finish, and that could even take something like 20 minutes.

gustavojoaquin 1y ago

based

ascorbic 1y ago

It's "glamorous", even in UK English. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/glamorous https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/glamorou...

dennisy 1y ago

Looks cool, but do we need another one of these?

827a 1y ago

One thing I'm curious about: Assuming you're using the same underlying models, and putting obvious pricing differences aside: What is the functional difference between e.g. Charm and Claude Code? And Cursor, putting aside the obvious advantages running in a GUI brings and that integration. Is there secret sauce that would make one better than the other? Available tools? The internal prompting and context engineering that the tool does for you? Again, assuming the model is the same, how similar should one expect the output from one to another be?

azemetre 1y ago
I would honestly think no, what couldn't be reversed engineered eventually? We see this all the time. Am curious about such results, it's one thing to think it's another to know! :D
- 827a 1y ago
  Yeah and as far as I know, both Claude Code and obviously Crush here are open source. Cursor isn't, but their code is probably just sitting in javascript in the application bundle and should be reversible if it actually mattered?
segmondy 1y ago
the secret sauce will be the available tools, prompting, context engineering, etc, yup whatever "agentic algorithm" has been built in.

xxzure 1y ago

So what are the differences between this one, Claude Code and Gemini CLI?

yoavm 1y ago
Claude Code uses Claude, Gemini CLI uses Gemini, and this one can be configured to use any model you want.
bluelightning2k 1y ago
Claude Code and Gemini CLI (and OpenAI Codex) are first party from the respective companies. But also kind of products - in extreme cases people pay $200/month for Claude Code and get $thousands and thousands of usage. There's product bundling there beyond just the interface. I think Claude Code specifically has a reputation for being a 1st class citizen - as in the model is trained and evalled on that specific toolcall syntax.

NitpickLawyer 1y ago

> LSP-Enhanced: Crush uses LSPs for additional context, just like you do This is the most interesting feature IMO, interested to see how this pans out. The multiple sessions / project also seems interesting.

esafak 1y ago
There are LSP MCPs so you can use them with other agents too.
- NitpickLawyer 1y ago
  I'm not really into golang, but if I read this [1] correctly, they seem to append the LSP stuff to every prompt, and automatically after each tool that supports it? It seems a bit more "integrated" than just an MCP. [1] - https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/317c5dbfafc0ebda8b86f25e8e4c8cda281b8df2/internal/llm/prompt/coder.go#L32 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/blob/317c5dbfafc0ebda...
  - tough 1y ago
    remarkably both Cursor and Zed do this (GUI, not CLI)

anthk 1y ago

No, thanks. I prefer the old way. Books, some editor (I like both emacs or nvi), books with exercises, and maybe some autocomplete setup for function names/procedures, token words and the like.

tekacs 1y ago

For anyone else who wants to actually be able to _read_ what's happening in the demo GIF, I slowed it down in ffmpeg and converted it to video form: https://share.cleanshot.com/XBXQbSPP https://share.cleanshot.com/XBXQbSPP

camgunz 1y ago
Low effort comment but an upvote felt inadequate: thanks!

indigodaddy 1y ago

Is Groq still “free” ? Anyone tested Crush with a Groq free key to see how mileage you can get out of it?

LouisvilleGeek 1y ago

Looks "Glamourous" but lacks the basics: Up / down history Copy text Other than these issues feels much nicer than Claude Code since the screen does not shake violently.

dgunay 1y ago

Played with it a bit. So far it lacks some key functionality for my use case: I need to be able to launch an interactive session with a prefilled prompt. I like to spawn tmux sessions running an agent with a prompt in a single command, and then check in on it later if any followup prompting is needed. Other papercuts: no up/down history, and the "open editor" command appears to do nothing. Still, it's a _ridiculously_ pretty app. 5 stars. Would that all TUIs were this pleasing to look at.

bewuethr 1y ago
There is history scrolling, you have to focus on the chat with tab first.

r0dms 1y ago

I’ve been playing with Crush over the past few weeks and I’m genuinely bullish on its potential. I've been following Charm for some time and they’re one of the few groups that get DX and that consistently ship tools that developers love. Love seeing them joining the AI coding race. Still early days, but this is clearly a tool made by people who actually use it.

ryanmcbride 1y ago

Trying this on windows after installing from npm and when it asks for my chatgpt api key, doesn't seem to let me paste it, or type anything, or submit at all. Just sits there until I either go back or force quit. edit: setting the key as an env variable works tho.

arthurcolle 1y ago

Why does this require XCode 26 to be installed instead of XCode 16? Silly

dedpool 1y ago

This one feels refreshing. It’s written in Go, and the TUI is pretty slick. I’ve been running Qwen Coder 3 on a GPU cluster with 2 B200s at $2 per hour, getting 320k context windows and burning through millions of tokens without paying closed labs for API calls.

yahoozoo 1y ago
Are you using a service for the GPU cluster?
segmondy 1y ago
how many tk/sec are you getting on that setup especially when you have 100k+ tokens?
beacon294 1y ago
I'd like to try this out, are you renting on one of the open renting platforms?

bluelightning2k 1y ago

Is this the company that did shady things by buying an open source repo and kicking out the contributors? Something to do with OpenCode or SST or something idk. Could be a different company ?

teh_klev 1y ago
Yes, this is that company. This is the "original": https://github.com/sst/opencode https://github.com/sst/opencode

rawkode 1y ago

How to handle an OSS dispute where you're the baddy: rebrand and hope nobody notices. Let's not forget they're the company that bought an OSS project, OpenCode, and tried to "steal" it

mccoyb 1y ago
You're talking about the wrong company. This is not the company you think it is. These are the creators of `bubbletea`, a popular TUI framework in Go.
- backscratches 1y ago
  it is the same company
  - mccoyb 1y ago
    Thanks, you're right -- I was wrong.
n00bskoolbus 1y ago
I'm unfamiliar with this. How would they steal it if they bought the open source project?
nsonha 1y ago
I think you're pretty clueless to make that claim, they bought something, not stole, and one out of the 3 core contributors (who is also the original creator or the project) agreed. You should form an opinion based on logic and facts, not who you follow.

insane_dreamer 1y ago

Other than switching LLMs, if I'm already mostly using Claude, any reason to use this over CC? One problem with these agents is that the tokens don't count for your Claude Max subscription. (Same reason I use CC instead of Zed's AI agent.)

bazhand 1y ago
opencode allows auth via Anthropic to enable claude max subscription.

alixanderwang 1y ago

Played around with it for a serious task for 15 mins. Compared to Claude Code: Pros: - Beautiful UI - Useful sidebar, keep track of changed files, cost - Better UX for accepting changes (has hotkeys, shows nicer diff) Cons: - Can't combine models. Claude Code using a combination of Haiku for menial search stuff and Sonnet for thinking is nice. - Adds a lot of unexplained junk binary files in your directory. It's probably in the docs somewhere I guess. - The initial init makes some CHARM.md that tries to be helpful, but everything it had did not seem like helpful things I want the model to know. Simple stuff, like, my Go tests use PascalCasing, e.g. TestCompile. - Ctrl+C to exit crashed my terminal.

jimmcslim 1y ago
> The initial init makes some CHARM.md Oh god please no... can we please just agree on a standard for a well-known single agent instructions file, like AGENT.md [1] perhaps (and yes, this is the standard being shilled by Amp for their CLI tool, I appreciate the irony there). Otherwise we rely on hacks like this [2] [1] https://ampcode.com/AGENT.md https://ampcode.com/AGENT.md [2] https://kau.sh/blog/agents-md/ https://kau.sh/blog/agents-md/
- cwlb 1y ago
  imo they should all support AGENT.md, but because of differences in tools, you often need an additional file per-agent.

jemiluv8 1y ago

Wondered how claude code would look like if it was built by the people over at charmbracelet. I suppose this is it The terminal is so ideal for agentic coding and the more interactive the better. I personally would like to be able to enter multiline text in a more intuitive way in claude code. This nails it.

yahoozoo 1y ago

Can you integrate this with/forward through a GitHub Copilot subscription?

bazhand 1y ago

Very interesting to see so many new TUI tools for llm. Opencode allows auth via Claude Max, which is a huge plus over requiring API (ANTHROPIC_API_KEY)

jpadamspdx 1y ago

Thanks Charm team for jumping on my feature request so I can really put Crush through its paces with https://container-use.com https://container-use.com. https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/issues/424 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/issues/424 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/pull/443 https://github.com/charmbracelet/crush/pull/443

094459 1y ago

Beware folks, I got directed to it by someone saying this was open source but it isn't.