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This is how I feel about the 100 msg/wk limit on o3 for the ChatGPT plus plan. There’s no way to see how much I’ve used, and it’s an important enough resource t
by el_benhameen 1y ago
This is how I feel about the 100 msg/wk limit on o3 for the ChatGPT plus plan. There’s no way to see how much I’ve used, and it’s an important enough resource that my lizard brain wants to hoard it. The result is that I way underutilize my plan and go for one of the o4-mini models instead. I would much prefer a lower daily limit, but maybe the underutilization is the point of the weekly limit.
*edited to change “pro” to “plus”
- jstummbillig 1y agoIf it behaves anything like the GPT-4.5 Limit, it will let you know when you near the limit.
- yencabulator 1y agoClaude daily limit sure didn't.
- littlestymaar 1y ago> This is how I feel about the 100 msg/wk limit on o3 for the ChatGPT Do I read this correctly? Only 100 messages per week, on the pro plan worth a few hundred buck a month?!
- mhl47 1y agoNo it's 100 a week for plus users.
- el_benhameen 1y agoSorry, yes, plus, not pro.
- doorhammer 1y agoI think it’s just a mistype I have a pro plan and I hammer o3–I’d guess more than a hundred a day sometimes—and have never run into limits personally Wouldn’t shock me if something like that happened but haven’t seen evidence of it yet
- CSMastermind 1y agoThat's definitely not correct because I'm on the pro plan and make extensive use of o3-pro for coding. I've sent 100 messages in a single day with no limitation. Per their website: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-what-is-chatgpt-pro https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-what-is-chatgpt-... There are no usage caps on pro users (subject to some common sense terms of use).
- sitkack 1y agoWorking as Intended.
- Wowfunhappy 1y agoWell, kind of. If you don't use it at all you're going to unsubscribe. This isn't like a gym membership where people join aspirationally. No one's new year's resolution is "I'm going to use o3 more often."
- christina97 1y agoWhat makes you think it’s any different?
- mattigames 1y agoYes it is, in the way of "I'm gonna work on X thing that is now much easier thanks to chatGPT" and then never work on it due lack of time or motivation or something else.
- gfiorav 1y agoI nervously hover over the VSCode Copilot icon, watching the premium requests slowly accumulate. It’s not an enjoyable experience (whether you know how much you've used or not :) )
- benjiro 1y agoNoticed that my productive usage of CoPilot dropped like a brick, after they introduced those limits. You feel constantly on the clock, and being forced to constantly change models gets tiresome very fast. Unless you use "free" GPT 4.1 like MS wants you (not the same as Claude, even with Beast Mode). And how long is that going to be free, because it feels like a design to simply push you to a MS product (MS>OpenAI) instead of third party. So what happens a year from now? Paid GPT 5.1? With 4.1 being removed? If it was not for the insane prices of actual large mem GPUs and the slowness of large models, i will be using LLMs at home. Right now MS/Antropic/OpenAI are right in that zone where its not too expensive yet to go full local LLM.
- landl0rd 1y agoYou can tell how it’s intentional with both OpenAI and Anthropic by how they’re intentionally made opaque. I cant see a nice little bar with how much I’ve used versus have left on the given rate limits so it’s pressuring users to hoard. Because it prevents them from budgeting it out and saying “okay I’ve used 1/3 of my quota and it’s Wednesday, I can use more faster.”
- xpe 1y ago> pressures users to hoard As a pedantic note, I would say 'ration'. Things you hoard don't magically go away after some period of time.
- zamadatix 1y agoFWIW neither hoard nor ration imply anything about permanence of the thing to me. Whether you were rationed bread or you hoarded bread, the bread isn't going to be usable forever. At the same time whether you were rationed sugar or hoarded sugar, the sugar isn't going to expire (with good storage). Rationed/hoarded do imply, to me, something different about how the quantity came to be though. Rationed being given or setting aside a fixed amount, hoarded being that you stockpiled/amassed it. Saying "you hoarded your rations" (whether they will expire) does feel more on the money than "you ration your rations" from that perspective. I hope this doesn't come off too "well aktually", I've just been thinking about how I still realize different meanings/origins of common words later in life and the odd things that trigger me to think about it differently for the first time. A recent one for me was that "whoever" has the (fairly obvious) etymology of who+ever https://www.etymonline.com/word/whoever https://www.etymonline.com/word/whoever vs something like balloon, which has a comparatively more complex history https://www.etymonline.com/word/balloon https://www.etymonline.com/word/balloon
- mattkrause 1y agoFor me, the difference between ration and hoard is the uhh…rationality of the plan. Rationing suggests a deliberate, calculated plan: we’ll eat this much at these particular times so our food lasts that long. Hoard seems more ad hoc and fear-driven: better keep yet another beat-up VGA cable, just in case.
- oc1 1y agoThey know this psychology. This dark pattern is intentional so you will use their costly service less.
- hn_throwaway_99 1y agoI don't think this counts as a "dark pattern". The reality is that these services are resource constrained, so they are trying to build in resource limits that are as fair as possible and prevent people from gaming the system.
- aspenmayer 1y ago> prevent people from gaming the system If I sit down for dinner at an all-you-can-eat buffet, I get to decide how much I’m having for dinner. I don’t mind if they don’t let me take leftovers, as it is already understood that they mean as much as I can eat in one sitting. If they don’t want folks to take advantage of an advertised offer, then they should change their sales pitch. It’s explicitly not gaming any system to use what you’re paying for in full. That’s your right and privilege as that’s the bill of goods you bought and were sold.
- Wowfunhappy 1y agoI feel like using Claude Code overnight while you sleep or sharing your account with someone else is equivalent to taking home leftovers from an all-you-can-eat buffet. I also find it hard to believe 5% of customers are doing that, though.
- aspenmayer 1y agoIf that’s off-peak time, I’d argue the adjacent opposite point, that Anthropic et al could implement deferred and/or scheduled jobs natively so that folks can do what they’re going to do anyway in a way that comports with reasonable load management that all vendors must do. For example, I don’t mind that Netflix pauses playback after playing continuously for a few episodes of a show, because the options they present me with acknowledge different use cases. The options are: stop playing, play now and ask me again later, and play now and don’t ask me again. These options are kind to the user because they don’t disable the power user option.
- milankragujevic 1y agoWhere did you find this info? I am unable to find in on OpenAI's website. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6950777-what-is-chatgpt-plus https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6950777-what-is-chatgpt-... I haven't yet run into this limit...
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- milankragujevic 1y agoFound it: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9824962-openai-o3-and-o4-mini-usage-limits-on-chatgpt-and-the-api https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9824962-openai-o3-and-o4...
- artursapek 1y agoJust curious, what do people use these expensive reasoning models for?
- wahnfrieden 1y agoCode
- hinkley 1y ago> it’s an important enough resource that my lizard brain wants to hoard it. I have zero doubt that this is working exactly as intended. We will keep all our users at 80% of what we sold them by keeping them anxious about how close they are to the limit.
- _giorgio_ 1y agoNot sure. But o3 seems to be 200/10 days, not weekly anymore in my opinion.
- wiseowise 1y ago> There’s no way to see how much I’ve used Hover on it on a desktop, it’ll show how many requests you have left.
- clownpenis_fart 1y ago[dead]