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At the time this comment was posted there was only one other comment in this entire thread. You say “so many people are advocating for this in HN” but this thr

At the time this comment was posted there was only one other comment in this entire thread. You say “so many people are advocating for this in HN” but this thread was empty except for one other comment (which was also critical of this) at the time you posted your comment.

isaacremuant 1y ago
I think if you use critical thinking to read you may easily find I'm talking about my experience with reading comments in relation to imposing age verification for online access, which means digital ID for internet access. HN and even the GitHub comments mostly start with the assumption that of course we should do this. Of course we should restrict social media to under 16/18s and either are in favor of ID to access the Internet or pretend it won't happen by consequence of this. Now try to address what I said instead of poorly calling me out.
- lukan 1y ago
  Linking to some comments in favour of this might help your case.
  - isaacremuant 1y ago
    My case? What's YOUR case. Assert a position and provide proof in triplicate please. Please tell me exactly what you think and I can nitpick it vaguely instead of putting forth mine. Heh. In any case, just look at the comments under my comment. You'll see them. - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44705630 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44705630 (this is good, we need this). - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44705597 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44705597 (are you a conservative?! Anonymity should be reduced.) Don't be disingenuous with your proof demands and tell us what you think and then we can discuss the merits of your argument.
    - Dylan16807 1y ago
      > My case? The case that "so many" people are advocating this on HN. Sounds like a significant percentage! > What's YOUR case. Assert a position Their case is that you should give evidence. > and provide proof in triplicate please. Please tell me exactly what you think and I can nitpick it vaguely instead of putting forth mine. Heh. "you should give evidence" doesn't need its own proof. And nitpicking such a simple idea would be a waste of everyone's time.
      - isaacremuant 1y ago
        You're not the original poster of the question so why are you trolling? "So many" means "so many". You're creating a straw man in bad faith. What's your take on digital Age verification. Either provide useful commentary or stop trolling. Address the existence of the other comments I linked.
        Dylan16807 1y ago
        Giving you a clear answer to your questions is trolling?
  - LegionMammal978 1y ago
    It's been a relatively common position to find, at least before the most recent hubbub around Steam, Itch.io, Britain, etc. For instance, while https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42071310 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42071310 faced criticism, it also had lots of broadly supportive sentiment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42075518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42075518, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42077025 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42077025, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42077421 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42077421, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074066 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074066, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074776 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074776, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42073002 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42073002, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42075043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42075043, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42076302 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42076302, ... Or at the very least, many here support the goal of keeping children and/or teenagers off of social media entirely, while disliking the means of ID verification. But it's not like there's any other obvious means.
    - baby_souffle 1y ago
      > It's been a relatively common position to find, at least before the most recent hubbub around Steam, Itch.io, Britain, etc. If you stretch the definition of "recent" to ~ 60d then you can also search for the pornhub/France thing. Quick google nets this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44210557 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44210557. There are likely others, too... but I'm lazy :).

isaacremuant 1y ago

I think if you use critical thinking to read you may easily find I'm talking about my experience with reading comments in relation to imposing age verification for online access, which means digital ID for internet access. HN and even the GitHub comments mostly start with the assumption that of course we should do this. Of course we should restrict social media to under 16/18s and either are in favor of ID to access the Internet or pretend it won't happen by consequence of this. Now try to address what I said instead of poorly calling me out.

lukan 1y ago
Linking to some comments in favour of this might help your case.
- isaacremuant 1y ago
  My case? What's YOUR case. Assert a position and provide proof in triplicate please. Please tell me exactly what you think and I can nitpick it vaguely instead of putting forth mine. Heh. In any case, just look at the comments under my comment. You'll see them. - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44705630 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44705630 (this is good, we need this). - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44705597 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44705597 (are you a conservative?! Anonymity should be reduced.) Don't be disingenuous with your proof demands and tell us what you think and then we can discuss the merits of your argument.
  - Dylan16807 1y ago
    > My case? The case that "so many" people are advocating this on HN. Sounds like a significant percentage! > What's YOUR case. Assert a position Their case is that you should give evidence. > and provide proof in triplicate please. Please tell me exactly what you think and I can nitpick it vaguely instead of putting forth mine. Heh. "you should give evidence" doesn't need its own proof. And nitpicking such a simple idea would be a waste of everyone's time.
    - isaacremuant 1y ago
      You're not the original poster of the question so why are you trolling? "So many" means "so many". You're creating a straw man in bad faith. What's your take on digital Age verification. Either provide useful commentary or stop trolling. Address the existence of the other comments I linked.
      - Dylan16807 1y ago
        Giving you a clear answer to your questions is trolling?
- LegionMammal978 1y ago
  It's been a relatively common position to find, at least before the most recent hubbub around Steam, Itch.io, Britain, etc. For instance, while https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42071310 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42071310 faced criticism, it also had lots of broadly supportive sentiment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42075518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42075518, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42077025 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42077025, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42077421 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42077421, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074066 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074066, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074776 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42074776, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42073002 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42073002, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42075043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42075043, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42076302 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42076302, ... Or at the very least, many here support the goal of keeping children and/or teenagers off of social media entirely, while disliking the means of ID verification. But it's not like there's any other obvious means.
  - baby_souffle 1y ago
    > It's been a relatively common position to find, at least before the most recent hubbub around Steam, Itch.io, Britain, etc. If you stretch the definition of "recent" to ~ 60d then you can also search for the pornhub/France thing. Quick google nets this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44210557 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44210557. There are likely others, too... but I'm lazy :).