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USB-C for Lightning iPhones
- colinprince 1y agoHis video is great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXQzVD1TdI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXQzVD1TdI
- bacon_waffle 1y agoThanks for the link - PCBWay recently offered me sponsorship, and this video has provided some good inspiration to make use of it :)
- BobbyTables2 1y agoHow does he have so much equipment? That’s way beyond a hobbyist!
- Retr0id 1y agoThere's your answer, it's beyond his hobby.
- ProllyInfamous 1y agoI've worked in a few hardware tech startups (early phases underling) and his pick'n'place is nicer than many multimillion dollar companies'.
- aaronblohowiak 1y agoIs that an open source opulo? You could get one for 2k
- aaronblohowiak 1y agoOops, saw he upgraded to a big boy unit at end of video
- ProllyInfamous 1y ago>big boy unit Yeah, it was way above my paygrade. But I'd speculate the video's p'n'p was in the low-$xx,xxx range. I remember when a different startup (that began inside a barn) moved from its first few h.sqft location into a proper industrial-zoned k.sqft facility. I remember when that place got its first short-schoolbus-sized Haas CnC... then got its second! Now its had hundreds of employees (I was employee #2, non-co-founder, in this memory). I have wired in several p'n'place machines there and even the current model isn't as nice as in the video's =D
- Aurornis 1y agoWhere are you seeing that? The link currently takes me to a purchase page that only has product photos.
- mog_dev 1y agoProbably from his yt channel: https://youtu.be/KUXQzVD1TdI?si=0TBoFhb9BUlPxZZ-&t=744 https://youtu.be/KUXQzVD1TdI?si=0TBoFhb9BUlPxZZ-&t=744
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- LeonM 1y agoEither he had some money available, or he just financed. It's not that hard to get a small business loan/financing for this kind of equipment. I don't know how many he sold, what his production capacity is, and what margin he makes, but I recon he could definitely make his investments work from the sales of the cases alone. And even if it does not, then there are also future products that this equipment enables. So a good investment if you ask me.
- p_ing 1y agoThis only gives you USB 2.0 speeds. If that's not a concern, then this is a good upgrade.
- colejohnson66 1y agoLightning only ever supported USB 2.0. Theoretically, the free serial pins could’ve been used for the SuperSpeed 3.0 pins, but Apple never did.
- brigade 1y agoThey supported superspeed for the lightning iPad pros by doubling the number of pins (top and bottom rows) Only the lightning to usb3 camera adapter used them
- colejohnson66 1y agoI stand corrected.
- ThatPlayer 1y agoI think it's also notable that the iPad Pro never supported usb 3 client either. The iPad Pro had a separate USB3 host controller, and so only supported that camera adapter. There was never a USB-A (or C) 3.0 to Lightning cable.
- delfinom 1y agoI would assume the vast majority of people aren't doing anything serious with their USB ports on a phone....
- xp84 1y agoIt did take 8 hours to do a migration of data from my wife's 256GB iPhone 14 (lightning) to her iPhone 15 Pro this year, so that's at least one "serious" thing. I am so glad to be rid of that cursed Lightning port. Now I just have to come up with a good excuse to replace the younger child's tablet, despite it working fine. It is so frustrating to have to maintain special charging cables just for certain devices especially when you know it was a deliberate and cynical choice by the vendor. Thank goodness for the EU forcing this matter.
- chromatin 1y agoI actually want lightning for my USB-C phone :/
- K7PJP 1y agoFor what purpose? There are USB-C to Lightning adapters if you were using some specialized Lightning device you couldn't or didn't want to replace.
- bigyikes 1y agoI love my USB-C iPhone but Lightning was smaller and easier to plug in.
- floxy 1y agoDoes anyone have reliability data for USB-C ports? It seems to me like Lightning is more robust to repeated plug/unplug cycles. But this is only on my limited sample size of one laptop with a failed USB-C port and some vague hand waving.
- xp84 1y agoIt shouldn't be, my understanding is that the springy bits (the most likely wear part) in Lightning are in the port, whereas in USB-C they're intentionally in the cable so you can replace it. I'm surprised you have a failed USB port, but I've never experienced one fortunately. I see Lightning as fragile on both sides of the connection, since the port has springy bits that can wear, and the cables also die, either due to the DRM chips Apple involves in the mix for profit reasons, or due to the pins becoming damaged (perhaps this? https://ioshacker.com/iphone/why-the-fourth-pin-on-your-lightning-cable-turns-black https://ioshacker.com/iphone/why-the-fourth-pin-on-your-ligh... ).
- ggreer 1y agoUSB-C has an unsupported tab in the middle of the port. It's pretty easy for that tab to bend or break, especially if the plug is inserted at an angle. Lightning doesn't have that failure mode. Also Lightning ports only use 8 pins (except on the early iPad Pros), so reversing the cable can often overcome issues with corroded contacts. That workaround isn't possible with USB-C.
- OrvalWintermute 1y agoThis guy needs to make more of them so he can TAKE MY MONEY!
- tamimio 1y agoI would take fast speed like USB 3 in lightning form than USB-C, it’s solid design, just needs some speed boost.
- seltzered_ 1y agoUgh, this just needed a headphone jack to be perfect. (Relatedly, back in 2017 eric migicovsky of pebble tried to make a usb-c iPhone case that also charged airpods: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/581404323/podcase-battery-case-for-your-iphone-and-airpods https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/581404323/podcase-batte... )
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- frollogaston 1y agoIf this case had a jack that worked reliably, I'd totally buy it. It's just that every other adapter I've used has somehow had occasional hiccups where the phone plays via speakers instead.
- crenwick 1y agoThis is also the case with Apple wired usbc headphones. Probably the phone software and not the adapter. Reminds me of when Android phones used to do the same with analog audio jacks.
- nabwodahs 1y agoThe best Lightning audio adapter is Apple's Lightning-to-30-pin-iPod adapter. It provides line-level audio out, as the 30-pin port always did. So you don't have to dick around with two volume levels; it's fixed coming out of the phone, and you only adjust your amp. I built one into a dock in my car that charged the phone and delivered audio to my car radio.
- atoav 1y agoThis is how any generic 5 Euro USB-C-to-TRS 3.5mm jack adapter works on Android. Didn't know this was a big issue in Apple-land.
- Brajeshwar 1y agoFor those not going for this one, should get a bunch of USB-C to Lightning adapter. I bought a few packs and they are all over the house, the car, tech pouch, etc. I stopped caring about Lightning cables. Lighting pins are going to be needed for a pretty long time. The TV Remote is going to be there for quite a while, the mice, the keyboard.
- Starmina 1y agoLike he highlights in his video, those adapter are not reversible. They only charge 9V max in one side and limited to 5V if you flip them.
- zulln 1y agoWhich should be fine for all the things the comment mentions though (remotes, keyboards, etc).
- thrance 1y agoALL my devices are now USB-C and it feels great: laptops, phone, headset, mice, game controller...
- DrNosferatu 1y agoKiller feature would be also a 3.5mm earphone jack.
- vachina 1y agoHaha, 50 Swiss franc for what the Chinese can do for 10CNY. Yeah nah.
- Workaccount2 1y agoWhat sucks (or is awesome) is that if this gets popular, it will certainly show up on Alibaba in the next few weeks and Amazon a few weeks after that. It will be a nicer material while much cheaper too.
- vachina 1y agoThere are already charging cases that is a little thicker, that offers usb c input.
- zevon 1y agoThe material thing is debatable. 3D printed Polyamide - possibly with a fibre filler - is really nice for phone cases, in my opinion. The surface texture is grippy, it's quite durable (and I like the look).
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- rahulbisht 1y agoThe USB‑C connector sticking out feels a bit odd. We can explore to move the port at the bottom, make it horizontal and add a cut‑out in the case for the cable to fit in. That would make the cover more natural and clean.
- MrBuddyCasino 1y agoJust to clarify: I can’t use the wired USB-C Apple headphone adapter with this?
- LeonM 1y agoThe data and PD communication are both working (that was the majority challenge on the EE side, shown in his video). So it would depend on the capability of his solution to let the phone work in host mode, thus being able to provide power to the adapter. Though I'm also not sure how the MFi situation is with those generations of iPhones, and what restrictions Apple has built in to the OS. I haven't worked with MFi for a while, and I don't know for sure if MFi chips are even required anymore for that generation of lightning devices, or whether the author has incorporated one. EDIT: I just saw this on his website: > Any other accessory that requires power from the phone is not compatible. So no, USB-C to headphone adapters won't work, they need power.
- rckt 1y agoWhat is the point of this? I'm not questioning the engineering part. This guy is amazing. I just don't understand the issue with iPhones' lightning port. Is there a shortage of lightning cables in the world?
- rf15 1y agoSaving up on actual cables you carry around - you always have that one extra iphone cable, while everyone else is on USB-C for years now.
- pimterry 1y agoIt's just _ridiculously_ useful having every single device you own work with the same charger. It's not the end of the world, but not even having to think about chargers has been a gamechanger.
- diggan 1y ago> What is the point of this? Probably for people like me, where the only Apple hardware I own and use is a iPhone 12 Mini, almost everything else is USB-C or the previous USB iterations. It'd be great if I can use the same cables I use for everything else with my phone too.
- WhyNotHugo 1y agoMy current lightning cable is breaking apart and I'll need to buy another at some point. I have dozens of USB-C cables at home. Having to carry one able less while travelling is also nice. Currently I carry a USB-C cable for headphones, would be nice to re-use that for the phone too.
- bapak 1y agoI love unplugging the charger from my computer and charging my phone in a swift, 3-seconds motion. Likewise, I hate that USB-A is still everywhere and I cannot use it without carrying yet one more cable. Sometimes I have it, sometimes I don't.
- saagarjha 1y agoFor a moment I thought this would be https://twitter.com/David3141593/status/1548314959943122945 https://twitter.com/David3141593/status/1548314959943122945
- ubermonkey 1y agoThat's a cool idea and I'd probably be on board for it if I weren't married to a different case system for compatibility with the mount on my motorcycle. If I were 10 years younger I'd probably leap on a new phone to pick up USB-C, but (a) Apple replaced my Lightning-based iPhone 14 Pro at like the last possible moment of warranty, so right now I have essentially a new phone and (b) there's still so many OTHER Lightning or USB-Micro holdouts in our house that USB-C Nirvana is years away. (E.G., Lightning on 2 sets of regular Airpods plus my Maxes as well as our phones; Micro on both our Kindles, my espresso scale, my camera's battery charger, and a ton of cycling gadgets.)
- traspler 1y agoI just got the iPhone 14 Pro version of it two days ago. I like the texture very much and all-in-all it seems like a great case. The textured buttons and the wide island are very nice touches :) The way I hold the phone in my right hand does make the connector-corner dig into my palm, which is not very comfortable. I'll see how well I can adapt. Also the top piece has veeery slight warping which makes some seams not as seamless but does not impact functionality. I know it's a hand-made product so that's fine to me, just a reality check on what to expect. The clasp of the top piece also seems a bit flimsy and even with the adjustments mentioned in the video I worry if it will break at some point.
- Pfhortune 1y agoOnce the SE third gen is available, I could finally have a TouchID iPhone with USB-C! Really wish Apple had done a final fourth gen of the SE with these features...