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Interesting. Why do you think so many websites try to foist apps on you if people will voluntarily download them anyway?

tgsovlerkhgsel 1y ago
My guess would be that it's because (as the above poster says) "app users are much more engaged than website users" and only "half our" moved without nudging - the sites would like more engagement from all users. That said, the harder you "nudge" me, the more I want to avoid the app and the whole business. Especially if you have any other dark patterns - I will assume you want me to download your app just so you can abuse me better.
- W3zzy 1y ago
  My wife and daughter seem to be very receptive to dark patterns. It's about education and understanding but you also need to care. They don't. Alas.
  - trinsic2 1y ago
    Same here. I did spark some interest in my family when I sent them this UI Test [0] We talked about it on hacker h news awhile back[1] [0]: https://games.productartistry.com/games/dark-patterns https://games.productartistry.com/games/dark-patterns [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42737778 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42737778
    - W3zzy 1y ago
      That's neat! Thanks! I also like his other applications. https://games.productartistry.com/ https://games.productartistry.com/
figassis 1y ago
The ones that do are usually the ones that know people will be reluctant to download.
melagonster 1y ago
Maybe OP offers some really valuable products?
TeMPOraL 1y ago
Because they don't accept their website is not worth an app. Most of that long tail of businesses has a transactional relationship with users, who by very nature would ideally want to think about them as little as possible and only for the short moment of actual transaction. In short: I do install apps of main platforms and physical shops I frequent. It's usually vastly better than a website, even if it just wraps a webview. But I don't want to install an app for every site I visit, for the same reason I don't want to go on a date with every stranger that smiles at me when I pass them by on the street.
tempestn 1y ago
Yeah, as others have said, I'm guessing it's primarily for the enhanced engagement and retention. And come to think of it, I've experienced it myself in reverse, in that social media is much easier to ignore when the app icon isn't right there on your home screen.
rchaud 1y ago
Apps have the ability to send notifications, web apps meanwhile have to deal with a pesky browser that prompts you to provide explicit consent for them to do that.

tgsovlerkhgsel 1y ago

My guess would be that it's because (as the above poster says) "app users are much more engaged than website users" and only "half our" moved without nudging - the sites would like more engagement from all users. That said, the harder you "nudge" me, the more I want to avoid the app and the whole business. Especially if you have any other dark patterns - I will assume you want me to download your app just so you can abuse me better.

W3zzy 1y ago
My wife and daughter seem to be very receptive to dark patterns. It's about education and understanding but you also need to care. They don't. Alas.
- trinsic2 1y ago
  Same here. I did spark some interest in my family when I sent them this UI Test [0] We talked about it on hacker h news awhile back[1] [0]: https://games.productartistry.com/games/dark-patterns https://games.productartistry.com/games/dark-patterns [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42737778 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42737778
  - W3zzy 1y ago
    That's neat! Thanks! I also like his other applications. https://games.productartistry.com/ https://games.productartistry.com/

figassis 1y ago

The ones that do are usually the ones that know people will be reluctant to download.

melagonster 1y ago

Maybe OP offers some really valuable products?

TeMPOraL 1y ago

Because they don't accept their website is not worth an app. Most of that long tail of businesses has a transactional relationship with users, who by very nature would ideally want to think about them as little as possible and only for the short moment of actual transaction. In short: I do install apps of main platforms and physical shops I frequent. It's usually vastly better than a website, even if it just wraps a webview. But I don't want to install an app for every site I visit, for the same reason I don't want to go on a date with every stranger that smiles at me when I pass them by on the street.

tempestn 1y ago

Yeah, as others have said, I'm guessing it's primarily for the enhanced engagement and retention. And come to think of it, I've experienced it myself in reverse, in that social media is much easier to ignore when the app icon isn't right there on your home screen.

rchaud 1y ago

Apps have the ability to send notifications, web apps meanwhile have to deal with a pesky browser that prompts you to provide explicit consent for them to do that.