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Wrong. They disable it because it’s a safety thing. They still count it towards their metrics that FSD was enabled.

computerex 1y ago
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prng2021 1y ago
Wrong. Tesla doesn't release safety metrics: https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/musks-tesla-seeks-guard-crash-data-public-disclosure-2025-06-04/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/musks-tesla-seeks-g... Waymo publishes tons of safety metrics on their website. Here's an analysis/summary: https://www.damfirm.com/waymo-accident-statistics.html https://www.damfirm.com/waymo-accident-statistics.html
- maxlin 1y ago
  You're immediately proven untrue: https://x.com/Tesla/status/1793561959734051273?referrer=grok-com https://x.com/Tesla/status/1793561959734051273?referrer=grok... And the links don't even touch on things that are comparable lol. Waymo might keep all the data themselves as they own the cars, while with Teslas, the drivers can and will just grab the camera data themselves, many post it YouTube.
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        prng2021 1y ago
        You sound like one of those fan boys that keeps a picture of Elon next to their bed. He's a con-man that has endangered lives by tacking on the word "beta" to a dangerous "full self driving" system for almost a decade to fool customers. Meanwhile others like Waymo did it the right, safe way. And wait no... now it's labeled "supervised" and "unsupervised" full self driving or some bs like that. He's a con-man that cheats his customers by manipulating odometers (https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a64555334/tesla-class-action-lawsuit/ https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a64555...) He's a con-man that destroyed Twitter but did some bs financial engineering with his XAI to make X suddenly valued exactly the same as when he bought it (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-paid-high-price-114537561.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-paid-high-price-114...). He's the con-man that remotely controlled his autonomous robots (https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-10-15/tesla-optimus-bots-were-remotely-operated-at-cybercab-event https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-10-15/tesla-opti...). Last but not least, he's the immoral idiot that fanned hate and the political divide in America by supporting Trumps claims of a stolen election. He then manipulated a democratic election by offering million dollar in bribes (or prizes as he called them) to people who voted for Trump. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/10/20/elon-musk-offers-1-million-a-day-to-entice-swing-state-voters-.html https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/10/20/elon-musk-offers-1-milli...
        queenkjuul 1y ago
        He's an absolute fucking dumbass with rich ass parents. He's hired a lot of smart people.
  - tremon 1y ago
    Trying to prove something regarding Tesla by linking to the personal disinformation platform of Tesla's CEO makes me laugh.
Jcampuzano2 1y ago
Okay, point us to the data Tesla publicly releases telling us they do or don't count it. Why would you trust a word they say when Elon has lied out of his teeth at every single investor meeting for the last decade. I say this as an owner of a Tesla myself.

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prng2021 1y ago

Wrong. Tesla doesn't release safety metrics: https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/musks-tesla-seeks-guard-crash-data-public-disclosure-2025-06-04/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/musks-tesla-seeks-g... Waymo publishes tons of safety metrics on their website. Here's an analysis/summary: https://www.damfirm.com/waymo-accident-statistics.html https://www.damfirm.com/waymo-accident-statistics.html

maxlin 1y ago
You're immediately proven untrue: https://x.com/Tesla/status/1793561959734051273?referrer=grok-com https://x.com/Tesla/status/1793561959734051273?referrer=grok... And the links don't even touch on things that are comparable lol. Waymo might keep all the data themselves as they own the cars, while with Teslas, the drivers can and will just grab the camera data themselves, many post it YouTube.
- FireBeyond 1y ago
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        prng2021 1y ago
        You sound like one of those fan boys that keeps a picture of Elon next to their bed. He's a con-man that has endangered lives by tacking on the word "beta" to a dangerous "full self driving" system for almost a decade to fool customers. Meanwhile others like Waymo did it the right, safe way. And wait no... now it's labeled "supervised" and "unsupervised" full self driving or some bs like that. He's a con-man that cheats his customers by manipulating odometers (https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a64555334/tesla-class-action-lawsuit/ https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a64555...) He's a con-man that destroyed Twitter but did some bs financial engineering with his XAI to make X suddenly valued exactly the same as when he bought it (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-paid-high-price-114537561.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-paid-high-price-114...). He's the con-man that remotely controlled his autonomous robots (https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-10-15/tesla-optimus-bots-were-remotely-operated-at-cybercab-event https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-10-15/tesla-opti...). Last but not least, he's the immoral idiot that fanned hate and the political divide in America by supporting Trumps claims of a stolen election. He then manipulated a democratic election by offering million dollar in bribes (or prizes as he called them) to people who voted for Trump. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/10/20/elon-musk-offers-1-million-a-day-to-entice-swing-state-voters-.html https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/10/20/elon-musk-offers-1-milli...
        queenkjuul 1y ago
        He's an absolute fucking dumbass with rich ass parents. He's hired a lot of smart people.
- tremon 1y ago
  Trying to prove something regarding Tesla by linking to the personal disinformation platform of Tesla's CEO makes me laugh.

Jcampuzano2 1y ago

Okay, point us to the data Tesla publicly releases telling us they do or don't count it. Why would you trust a word they say when Elon has lied out of his teeth at every single investor meeting for the last decade. I say this as an owner of a Tesla myself.