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“I noticed a clear violation of our contributing guidelines”
- PeterStuer 1y agoImagine a contributor forgetting to rinse his message through an AI verbalizer. The horror!
- slacktivism123 1y agoIs this the future of collaborative coding? When https://github.com/antiwork/flexile/pull/427#issuecomment-3079688065 https://github.com/antiwork/flexile/pull/427#issuecomment-30... results in https://github.com/antiwork/flexile/pull/427#issuecomment-3079688548 https://github.com/antiwork/flexile/pull/427#issuecomment-30... More incredible examples where a LLM flags contributors' pull requests because their comments contain minor grammar errors: https://github.com/antiwork/flexile/pulls?q="our+contributing+guidelines" https://github.com/antiwork/flexile/pulls?q="our+contributin...
- samrus 1y agoYour last link seems to show alot of PRs being rejected because screenshots and test results werent included. I do get your point about the grammar rule being enforced badly, but the link isnt a great example it
- WesolyKubeczek 1y agoSuch future is instrumental in helping me accept and embrace my own mortality.
- Asraelite 1y agoIn principle I don't see a problem with bots looking out for grammar mistakes and typos that could confuse readers (so long as it's less intrusive than this bot), but in this case the bot is just incorrect. "Good to merge? Test suite passes locally?" is perfectly valid English. You need to make sure that the bot is configured to not insist on arbitrary prescriptivist style guides that nobody cares about.
- samrus 1y agoThe problem is these bots dont understand the concept of "goals" or "achieving something". So they cant judge for themselves when they are actually helping (like in correcting grammar where its so bad its hindering communications with other contributors) or being pedantic (like this) because they wont think to consider the difference unless wxplicitly told to do so And NGI like a human would be given this task and consider the spirit of the law, the goal we want to acheive, and enforce it to reach that. The next token AI doesnt model that. It just predicts the next token, and understanding the spirit of the law does not seem to be in the emergent capabilities of that
- Asraelite 1y agoI often see comments on Github issues where poor wording makes it difficult to understand what is actually meant. Things like "I reproduced the bug on Linux, then I tried Windows. I can't reproduce it now." Does that mean it's just not reproducible on Windows, or not reproducible at all anymore? Ambiguities like that are especially annoying when it's someone posting a solution to a problem. Sometimes it's because of grammatical errors, sometimes not. I think LLMs are actually great for catching things like this, and you generally don't need some higher-level understanding about the goals involved to notice the ambiguity. My point wasn't that bots shouldn't be used like this, just that they need to be given the right instructions.
- samrus 1y ago> just that they need to be given the right instructions. this is the part im talking about. i also think LLMs are very capable at detecting different types and levels or grammar, but they cant decide which ones should be filtered out to meet a certain goal. they need detailed instructions for that, and thats somewhat inefficient and causes issues like this right here. we have done this song and dance many times with AI. its the bitter lesson: you need a system that learns these things, you cant just give it a rule based engine to patch the things it cant learn. that works in the short term, but leads to a dead end. we need something that has the "common sense" to see when grammar is fine versus hindering communication, and this just isnt there yet. so it needs to be given detailed instructions to do so. which may or may not be sustainable
- bob1029 1y agoThe PR thread looks like this to me: https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/7lkgdk/video_game_huds_these_days/ https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/7lkgdk/video_game_hu...
- bschne 1y agothis picture is missing some ads, it's the logical next step
- samrus 1y ago"Your PR is missing testing results. Now, with playright pro, enjoy agentic debugging analysis that coordinates with coding agents including claude code, cursor, copilot, and more! Only 19.99!"
- enlyth 1y agoI feel you, at our workplace someone added some AI Code review thing and it slops the whole PR with useless sequence diagrams and poems (why would I want to read an AI slop poem?) and pages and pages of instructions on how to interact with it. Our Slack channel is also completely slopped to the point it's mostly bot conversations constantly spamming about review reminders, pull request statuses, and other useless info you can just look up yourself if you need it. The signal to noise ratio is to the point where I just ignore everything.
- Aeolun 1y agoYou should add a bot to summarize all the messages in those channels!
- queenkjuul 1y agoMy boss is obsessed with copilot PR summaries and they make me want to scream. A 12-line PR with a 40-line summary? And each description is "updated and enhanced <file>... Updated and enhanced <file>" There's no utility in reading them, which means asking people more questions directly in slack instead, which genuinely makes the entire process slower for everyone. I know for a fact that no developer in my team would struggle to write 4-5 bullet points for any given PR in less than 2 minutes. My boss just genuinely thinks the slop is better (probably because he's not usually the one reading them) Our Confluence is also rapidly turning into nothing but totally uninformative Claude-generated noise. It's annoying to be repeatedly called a Luddite for questioning this stuff when the end results can be so obviously wasteful and unhelpful.
- r0ckarong 1y agoLike we needed more ways to stifle contribution to FOSS projects. Where is the GaaS (gatekeeping as a service) unicorn?
- NooneAtAll3 1y agowhere exactly does the bot say that? I kept reading and reading and the "violation of our guidelines" phrase wasn't appearing, so I got bored
- szszrk 1y agoIt's in the second sentence of linked comment...
- NooneAtAll3 1y agowdym linked comment? it links to the whole pull request?
- szszrk 1y agoIt linked to particular comment of a bot for me. At least at the time I commented. In all honesty, it works better for me in a vanilla browser on mobile. GitHub app is less predictable IMHO.
- bru 1y agohttps://github.com/antiwork/flexile/pull/427#issuecomment-3079688548 https://github.com/antiwork/flexile/pull/427#issuecomment-30...
- jstanley 1y agoYou can type Ctrl-F to search for a phrase within a page.
- tomhow 1y agoIn their defence, the originally-submitted title was edited so it didn't match a string in the PR thread. I've modified it so it does, but that also required removing words from the end.
- rokkamokka 1y agoWow what an obnoxious and extremely verbose PR flow. Bot overflow
- picafrost 1y agoThis makes me wonder if AI usage will end up part of job position listings, similar to remote days, if it is not already. How much AI agent will you be able to use/be subjected to? Are people looking for this already when job searching?
- VoidWhisperer 1y agoSome companies are definitely already looking for it - I think as part of my job search, I've run into probably atleast 4 or 5 companies that, on top of having it as a qualification, ask specific questions on the job application about what AI tools you use and how they've made you more productive
- OJFord 1y agoI'm by no means a super keen or heavy user, I've barely dabbled really, but if we were hiring at the moment I think I'd ask about it - it's suddenly a huge part of understanding how a person works and what they might be like to interact with. Up there with considering cover letter/email/CV writing style, and commit messages from any take-home or their public repos.
- queenkjuul 1y agoAnd now when candidates submit take home tests for me to review, half of them are barely functional AI slopfests. A goddamn staff engineer candidate with 20 years experience submitted an auto generated, broken app, and then tried to pass it off as though it didn't work because our API was down. No, the AI hard coded the wrong URL and he didn't notice (the correct URL was specified in the email containing the test instructions) I want off Mr Altman's wild ride lol
- shdon 1y agoI run several job boards, and though there hasn't yet been any postings requiring the candidate's using AI (also not all that likely in the particular field), I am noticing a definite increase in the number of lists with emoji preceding each bullet point, and the use of em dashes. Personally, if I were a job seeker, I'd find that off-putting just as much as if I were presented with the requirement to use AI in my job.
- id00 1y agoDon't want to be too judgemental but does "Self Serve invite link" feature really needs 50 commits, an army of bots, countless nitpicking and 140+ messages? We are not launching Apollo to the Moon here. I don't know this particular project but seeing threads like this kill any motivation to contribute.
- repeekad 1y agoHaha, wait until you hear how long and how many people it takes to change the text for a single button at a company like Google
- mgraczyk 1y agoProbably one person one minute, unless it needs translation in which case potentially unbounded time
- dvh 1y agoAnd now top nav breaks to second line on 63% on mobile devices and the submit button is now out of screen. I know these "how hard can it be?" type of changes
- saidinesh5 1y agoNgl .. the spectrum is really as wide as: "We are a fast moving start up (even at 3-4 years old), we believe in moving fast and breaking things ... That's why we don't do code reviews or unit tests.. we just edit live running code and restart the server" Vs "This one line change needs 4 -5 commits to add feature flags,unit tests, integration tests - all to be reviewed by different teams and wait 1-2 months to be deployed properly to production"
- spcebar 1y agoThere's stories that bridge the gaps between the two models of explosions and fires and legally actionable fast moving breakages that bring new people into start-ups who put these processes into place and generally shift the culture towards cautiousness. Other industries need to start at point B, or otherwise learn the lessons that get you there _quickly_.
- StrLght 1y agoWhat an absolutely dystopian PR flow. Shouldn't automation be somewhat useful? All these bot comments — do they really bring more value than they create distractions?
- nicce 1y agoIf you look the org, it might make more sense. > Antiwork emerged from Gumroad's mission to automate repetitive tasks. In 2025, we're taking a bold step by open-sourcing our entire suite of tools that helped run and scale Gumroad. We believe in making powerful automation accessible to everyone.
- viraptor 1y agoIt looks like most of the coderabbit comments were genuinely addressed. Can't easily follow the Cursor ones - they definitely have some work to do on the right presentation / summary folding. So yeah, it does look like they bring value for genuinely more reliable code.
- mykowebhn 1y agoI know there's something to be said for retaining git history when merging, but merging 50 commits is a great way to pollute your commit history. Some of the commit descriptions: "fix", "fixes", "clean up".
- uniq7 1y agoGithub will squash all commits into a single one that actually gets merged: https://github.com/antiwork/flexile/commit/123404b3caa52870be8b90b4c40faa3b5ec8b260 https://github.com/antiwork/flexile/commit/123404b3caa52870b...
- normie3000 1y ago> # Self-Serve Invite Link Feature — Fixes #348 This feature enables admins to generate an invite link for contractors How is that self-service?
- lolc 1y agoShhh don't tell the bots!
- spuz 1y agoThis would be best implemented inline with the textbox of the comment form. If you want to give people feedback on their grammar then do it while they are actually writing - not after. Otherwise you just make an already hard to follow thread even more noisy.
- raincole 1y agoGrammar MechaHitler.
- _ache_ 1y agoThe comments of coderabbitai are ... well. + const safeToken = typeof token === "string" && token.length > 0 && token.length < 256 ? token : ""; Of arguable quality I would say. The length size limit is arbitrary and the > 0 is ridiculous.
- whatevsmate 1y ago> thank you for the clarification! I appreciate you sharing that domain knowledge about the document-signature relationship > … > Your expertise about the system's constraints helps provide important context that static analysis tools can't capture. So much fawning bullshit bloating the message and the token count. I think this might be the thing with LLMs I dislike most. Suggestion for prompt writers: “Don’t waste tokens. Keep messages succinct and direct.”
- amiga386 1y agoDear bot, Fuck off. Dear humans who advocated for installing the bot, let me use anodyne, US corporate bullshit language so you'll understand: Your bot does not add value. Get rid of it, before it drives out all voluntary contributors.
- Hilift 1y agoImagine this in perfect French.
- am17an 1y agoThere's going to a wrapper around github PRs to summarize these issues, the mess they created in the first place. BTW this is the same guy which has famously stopped hiring engineers
- juliangmp 1y agoHow are these bots still a thing? Who actually wants then???
- thomascountz 1y agoI often use the metaphor of LLMs as calculators. Mathematicians use calculators, and so too do elementary school students, and grocery store clerks, and civil engineers. What each person needs from a calculator can be similar, but would you give a graphing calculator to the store clerk and expect them to be more "productive?" Admittedly, my metaphor is leaky—and I also can't comment on the participants of the PR—but after reading the comments and the code itself, I'm getting a lot of "here’s a new calculator with a bunch of graphing functions, trigonometric menus, and poem generators—now go do the basic arithmetic you were already doing, but you work for the calculator now" vibes. Said another way, it took me a lot more time and effort to understand what the bots were saying and if I agreed, than it did for me to formulate my own thoughts and questions. Like the saying goes, "the best calculator is the one you have with you," and I'd much rather just use my own.
- cyanydeez 1y agoUnfortinately, LLMs arnt deterministic. So they cannot be consistent. So calculators arnt comparable.
- JohnKemeny 1y agocommit number n: add tests
- moribvndvs 1y agoThis profession has gone from rewarding and enjoyable to a confusing, miserable hellscape faster than I possibly could have imagined.
- dearilos 1y agoThis is what sucks about code review today It's just slop and useless context Code review should only help with the repetitive and tedious parts of review I'm building a tool to fix that
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