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The article calls out “certain adult games” which is vague. It is interesting to note that most of the delisted games were themed specifically around incest. h
by throwaway071625 1y ago
The article calls out “certain adult games” which is vague. It is interesting to note that most of the delisted games were themed specifically around incest.
https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27 https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27
Wondering if this will be a slippery slope towards pulling more anodyne stuff.
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- eddythompson80 1y agoSpecifically incest, rape, and child abuse-themed games.
- superkuh 1y agoAh, like a video game version of "Game of Thrones"? None of the payment processors had any issues with taking money for that series. And that was live action.
- eddythompson80 1y agoYep, those games were exactly the same thing as Game of Thrones.
- ggoo 1y agoI mean by the content they were yeah. Precisely the problem with rules declaring what content is and isn’t acceptable.
- eddythompson80 1y agoExactly. By content, here is a book on Amazon[1] where the author openly tells stories of rape and incest and somehow it's all Ok. Pretty much the same as Game of Thrones and those Steam games. [1] https://www.amazon.com/Body-Keeps-Score-Healing-Trauma/dp/0143127748 https://www.amazon.com/Body-Keeps-Score-Healing-Trauma/dp/01...
- ggoo 1y agoSeems like we’re in agreement - I read your prior comment differently
- baobabKoodaa 1y agoYou are not in agreement. The person you are replying to is being sarcastic. They feel that a HBO produced tv show with incest is art that needs to be protected while an indie dev game with incest is trash that needs to be censored.
- mango7283 1y agoThe fact of the matter is you will find more people willing to publicly bat for GOT than you will find people willing to bat for an "indie incest non-con game". And it's not like GOT has not received criticism for its content or that people haven't tried.
- baobabKoodaa 1y agoThe movements here (the pro-censorship movement & the anti-sexuality movement) are mainly driven by religious beliefs, and as such, it comes as no surprise that they do not want to apply censorship in a fair or even logically consistent way; they merely want to ban things they personally do not like.
- mango7283 1y agoAs I pointed out earlier, it's also valid that they are savvy enough to pick their battles and divide and conquer - you can't take down a critical mainstream success like GOT or GTA, but you can go after fringe games with content most people would be uncomfortable publicly defending.
- baobabKoodaa 1y agoSure, I can see that being part of it (I didn't see this implication in your earlier post)
- monkeyelite 1y agoGames/hentai about these topics are not illegal, even if they are in bad taste. And I’m willing to bet some content removed does not fall in these categories
- Jolter 1y agoThat’s exactly the point: getting Valve to remove illegal content would not have caused any headlines. These themes go against common moral standards and so Visa et al don’t want to be seen selling them. You can find the list of removed titles if you go looking for it. Feel free to point out which ones you think are collateral damage. I’m not looking at that list with my eyeballs though. I need them for later.
- casey2 1y agoIn the US they are criminally illegal https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A
- monkeyelite 1y agoYou crossed two categories together, and made a new category I didn’t say: “Depictions of sexual assault of children” Are you claiming that the content removed was encroaching on this law?
- guywithahat 1y ago[flagged]
- tester457 1y agoThe same post by steamdb is on twitter too, they are a steam game tracker and database.
- guywithahat 1y agoI mean it's just a joke, bluesky has earned a reputation for cp and other illegal or inappropriate content
- itsthecourier 1y ago[flagged]
- UltraSane 1y agoVisa and Mastercard generally don't like anything with incest, rape, and/or underage participants.
- Diti 1y agoBut they are strangely okay with murder.
- baobabKoodaa 1y agoThat's american values for you.
- mbs159 1y agoIt's kind of fucked up that we are almost used to murder in various media (movies, games, etc.), meanwhile even slightly explicit sex is much more taboo. I do vaguely understand why this is (religious beliefs that formed our understanding of what is acceptable and what-not), but I am still surprised that this is how it is even with the rise of Atheism in recent decades.
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- superkuh 1y agoUnless it's a TV show depicting it with live action. Then it's fine.
- Aurornis 1y ago> The article calls out “certain adult games” which is vague. A Quick Look at the list has me wishing I hadn’t thought to look at the list. I suspect the vague “certain adult games” was chosen because it makes it sound more controversial. If the headline was “Valve removed incest-themed games under pressure” there would be a lesser reaction.
- AStonesThrow 1y ago[dead]
- Ferret7446 1y agoWhy? Incest is more objectionable than murder or rape?
- yieldcrv 1y agoPayment processors should be regulated like utilities. Permissionless and agnostic to anything you do.
- j_timberlake 1y agoNekopara and Sabbat of the Witch are safe... for now. Hopefully they don't know about the little-sister route in Making Lovers.
- healsdata 1y agoCollective Shout, the group behind this petition, has previously gone after more mainstream games, like Detroit Becomes Human, for spurious reasons. I have no doubt they'll use this win and mealy-mouthed language to push for more censorship.
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- jokoon 1y agoYes, I don't know if selling those games is legal or not. Thus I can imagine that they don't want to become criminally responsible if that's illegal.