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Do they still use Yandex? >I’ve been a happy Kagi user since early 2023 I was an unhappy Kagi user when I learnt it relied on Russian back ends fueling a war.
by PokemonNoGo 1y ago
Do they still use Yandex?
>I’ve been a happy Kagi user since early 2023
I was an unhappy Kagi user when I learnt it relied on Russian back ends fueling a war. Now I'm not a user anymore.
- ajdude 1y agoDo you have any links / sources for this?
- bangaladore 1y agoI think they are referring to this changelog item: > Our image search became even better with the inclusion of two more sources: Yandex Image Search (widely recognized as one of best image search services) and Openverse (vast collection of openly licensed images). Kagi is doing the hard work so that you don't have to. https://kagi.com/changelog#5340 https://kagi.com/changelog#5340
- jwr 1y agoThey were asked to stop and refused: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...
- junon 1y agoThey have search results from Yandex among others, yes, and Yandex isn't really a Russian company anymore.
- jwr 1y agoSee for example https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/publications/zois-spotlight/the-sad-fate-of-yandex-from-independent-tech-startup-to-kremlin-propaganda-tool https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/publications/zois-spotlight/th...
- haiku2077 1y ago> Yandex isn't really a Russian company anymore The Dutch owners sold Yandex to a group of Russian investors.
- threetonesun 1y agoYou're gonna have a hard time using anything right now if you want to avoid services run in a country not spending on a war somewhere.
- cosmicgadget 1y agoIt's not hypocritical to set the bar at a given place, like an ongoing war of territorial expansion and child abduction run by an autocrat that won't be replaced until his death. One with near complete popular support.
- skrtskrt 1y agoThis could easily refer to any of the despots the US backs
- cosmicgadget 1y agoIs that some sort of gotcha? By all means, boycott those countries as well. Support from the US certainly is not a free pass.
- skrtskrt 1y agoFollow the logic and boycott the US as well! Now you have zero viable search engines
- cosmicgadget 1y agoCan you give me a line-by-line breakdown please? For example, I believe term limits are still a thing.
- lostlogin 1y agoI have plenty of reservations about the US, but the invasion of the Ukraine is not in the same category as anything the US is up to.
- J_McQuade 1y agoAlso, the company is based in a country that has 'fueled' more wars in my lifetime than any other country has in the last 100 years. Definitely avoid.
- barbazoo 1y agoI doubted this but it's true: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kagi_(search_engine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kagi_(search_engine) > Country of origin: USA
- Chief_Searcha 1y agoThere have been times when I loved and times when I absolutely hated Yandex. That being said, I am not going to disown everything associated with Russia. Also they are distancing themselves. It's far from perfect but the more independent indexes the better even if you disagree with those particular indexes.
- mossTechnician 1y agoKagi is still partnered with Yandex[0], but they removed a list of sources they used. When asked if the list could be restored, Vladimir Prelovac replied "Is there any particular reason you are asking for this? More context will help us better understand the need."[1] [0]: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/20 https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio... [1]: https://kagifeedback.org/d/252-show-source-of-results/49 https://kagifeedback.org/d/252-show-source-of-results/49
- lostlogin 1y agoGood links. Him making out that hiding it is to help users is a bit gross.
- 7373737373 1y agoThey would rather live in a world where they can find everything, including 2℅ atrocities they indirectly fund, than not
- dcow 1y agoI prefer that world too. The only people morally responsible for committing atrocities are those who commit them. Shall we hold the farmers who grow food that Russian leaders consume morally culpable for those leaders’ actions? I’m dead serious. You cannot in good faith actually argue that everyone is indirectly morally culpable for any action that is “enabled” by something they do. Like freedom of expression, neutral objective search is too important to poison with identity politics and virtue signaling.
- joshuaturner 1y agoNot a great look. Even if you somehow believe partnering with Yandex is justifiable, you should stand by the decision. My annual plan with Kagi renews in a few months and it might be time to look for alternatives.
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- camel-cdr 1y agoI wonder how much of the advantages from kagi are due to their yandex backend. For example, I recently tried to search for a text string from ao3 and google, bing, brave, qwant, ... all return no results, while yandex and by extension kagi found it in the first search result.
- i_love_retros 1y ago[flagged]
- lostlogin 1y agoKagi was founded in the US, so by boycotting it they can satisfying this weird requirement that the US is sanctioned too.
- PokemonNoGo 1y agoHonestly American was bad before that.
- Tadpole9181 1y agoThat's one of the reasons I canceled my subscription as well.
- Heidaradar 1y agoDo you have the same opinion on companies that are based in israel/give money to israeli companies?
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