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>I've run through stress fractures, heart procedures, flus and other physical ailments. I've run in frigid sub zero weather and in sweltering heat. Respectfull
by lbrito 1y ago
>I've run through stress fractures, heart procedures, flus and other physical ailments. I've run in frigid sub zero weather and in sweltering heat.
Respectfully, that sounds awful. Being sick sucks enough, the last thing I'd want or benefit from doing is physical activity during a flu.
- mobiledev2014 1y agoThe site is cool but as a runner this is not admirable and not something others should emulate. Interesting how few comments call that out but perhaps not surprising if your audience admires The Hustle
- noah_buddy 1y agoRespectfully, if this guy has been doing it for ten years, it’s obviously not so bad as you make it out to be. It’s not a grind set mentality, it’s just one guys choice to exercise in a certain manner. I am a runner. I train at what is probably the 80th percentile for longer distances, so I am by no means an expert. But I do understand that if you are running 7 miles a week, most of the time, your body isn’t going to be that beat up, especially if you are taking it slow.
- RHSman2 1y agoRead it out loud ‘7 miles a week’ Most people sit at a desk for 40 hrs a week. That is way more damaging to your health.
- simianparrot 1y agoYeah once I read that I realised it wasn’t extreme at all. I take ~2 mile brisk walks every day (the kind where my pulse will average to 130), interspersed with casual multi-mile hikes up the mountain trail nearby. That’s just my baseline cardio and movement to feel good and keep myself healthy.
- d1sxeyes 1y agoWhat I’ve learned is a lot of people would call a “brisk walk” which takes your heart rate to average 130 “a run”. A runner’s definition of running can be quite different to a layperson’s.
- balfirevic 1y agoI always thought (and still do!) it's about whether there are moments when both of your feet are off the ground, not about the pace.
- LandR 1y agoIsn't that running? If my heart rate is 130, that's a run for me, all be ot slow. 33-35min ish 5k. A brisk walk would be 95ish
- simianparrot 1y agoLots of change in elevation, with steep hills, stairs etc. For comparison my resting heart rate is ~57 on average, and for more intense workouts I can go up to ~160 for periods of time, so I think my range is healthy. But I can get a lot out of a brisk walk in this terrain ;) I've found it's a lot better for my knees than running or jogging, which I've practically replaced in favor of mountain hiking and said brisk walks, as well as indoor cycling when the weather is bad.
- afterburner 1y agoTen years might not be long enough for long term damage to make itself known. In fact, most of the time, it's nowhere near long enough. However, the cardio should help. With overall health that is, not whatever blown knee or hip or whatever he'll have to deal with later.
- RamblingCTO 1y agoIt's not about the running but the "running through sickness and fractures". It's just plain stupid to risk your health like that. Great that it worked, but this is nothing anyone should blindly emulate. Have fun with the heart infection because you needed to run for virtual internet points.
- noah_buddy 1y agoScientific information on the topic is quite sparse. There are ascientific recommendations about vigorous activity that probably have some merit, but unless you are terribly, terribly ill, a very light workout is not known to increase adverse health outcomes.
- gempir 1y agoIt worked out for this specific person under these specific circumstances with a methodology he might have not even fully shared. You should not conclude from that, that it is healthy for every person to do so.
- igouy 1y ago> with the occasional 0:01 run to be sure I get one in that day > i call the one-milers "streak savers" If that game helps, fine.
- noah_buddy 1y agoI believe that he means 00:01 as in one minute after midnight and not 1 second runs. The minimum distance is a mile for his streak I believe
- igouy 1y agoDo you think it matters what they mean? It's a game with arbitrary rules. If the game helps then fine.
- andyst 1y agoI (still!) have an uncle who had a similar mindset, broke his leg half way through a race and only realised when he stopped at the end, that he couldnt walk any further finally when they had to (successfully) defib him during a race, that shook him into assessing his health not running for the sake of running There's a mindset with distance runners that I have seen over and over, just sometimes way too much of a generally good thing
- ujkiolp 1y agoas a runner, i love the site.
- zipping1549 1y agoIt's honestly downright dangerous. I don't think anyone's going to _enjoy_ running after that.
- PaulDavisThe1st 1y agoThe author sounds as though they still do.
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- efilife 1y agoWhy are you guys saying they if the author is clearly a guy?
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- jakeydus 1y agoThe singular they has been common in English for almost four hundred years. If gender is unknown or irrelevant to the sentence, then they is completely grammatically correct. If you're trying to make a political statement, then I think that pointing out the use of they is more of a statement than the use of it is.
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- mrbonner 1y agoYeah I was in the camp of " tough it out" when I was younger. Now, I understand how and when to listen to my body and lrt it rest is as important as working out with it. When my body is under stress from illness there is no need to put more stress on it.
- jimbokun 1y agoI was more surprised the doctors even let him run after a heart procedure.
- afterburner 1y agoDid he ask them?
- _Algernon_ 1y agoIt may come as a surprise to you, but doctors don't have any means of "letting" people do anything. They can, at most, advise.
- fifilura 1y agoIt is only a mile and you can run really, really slow. I am also a run-streaker (3 years by now). I am not proud of running when i have the flu. But I run really slow and only the required amount. Effort comparable to going to the store to buy food and aspirin.
- pinkmuffinere 1y agoI don’t feel strongly on either side, but I do want to point out that “I am not proud of running when I have the flu” immediately suggests a course of action that could make you more proud. It seems that not-running when sick would make you happier? Is it really worth doing just for the completionism?
- fifilura 1y agoThen I would loose my streak and the magic would disappear. I am not a pro athlete. I think there are many days where athletes go beyond what they should to win some gold medal in some competition. This is for me only and I am fine with it. Can you tell me what you think you'd do?
- pinkmuffinere 1y agoYa, that's fair, arbitrary motivators are arbitrary, but they still give motivation. I strongly dislike running, so if it was me I think I would give up once I get sick, or likely would not start the streak to begin with. I'm not saying that's the right solution, just trying to address your question.
- igouy 1y agoPerhaps I misunderstand and misread and then dislike what I feel about that first sentence. I take it to express fear of losing the streak and fear that the magic would disappear. It's the feeling of fear as motivation that I dislike.
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- Imme_Play_5550 1y agoThere is definitely such a thing as overtraining. I got my free testosterone down to 15 (reference range=35-155 pg/mL) and my total testosterone down to 96 (ref=250-1100 ng/dL). From histograms from various studies, I hit the 1-percentile of low testosterone as a 35yo male. That's... uh... not good. This was due to a number of factors: excessive running (the equivalent of ~50-70mi/week), calorie restriction, and possibly carbohydrate restriction. Thankfully symptoms of low T (namely morning erections) resolved ~1month after ameliorating those 3 factors. (For anyone interested, look up "Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport".) Mileage isn't my goal. Health is. OP states "I've... invested into my own health", but I'm not convinced.
- vl 1y agoBut how would you loose weight without calorie restriction? Maybe this amount of running was excessive, but how did you even run such distances with T so low? (Ie how did you recover?)
- BadOakOx 1y agoI'm no expert on this, but I also read about this as I also tried calorie restriction. You still have to keep your macros (and micros) in balance while on calorie deficit, which is even harder. Your body needs various things, you just need to optimize your food. Also, I think the main contributor for OPs issues was the fat deficit, which is very easy to fall into while you think you eat healthy a lean food. Fat is important for your hormone production. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26843151/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26843151/ https://shilpidietclinic.com/low-fat-diet-and-hormonal-imbalance-understanding-the-connection/ https://shilpidietclinic.com/low-fat-diet-and-hormonal-imbal...
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 1y agoIn my experience(currently about 15kg into a 40kg weight-loss program), eating enough fat can also be very helpful for losing weight. It seems counter-intuitive, but it works for me. Fat contributes a great deal to satiety. My diet setup has been to have breakfast and dinner only, no lunch on most days. This way I can make both meals quite calorific, filling and plenty tasty. Crucial for maintaining adherence to the setup, which is by far the hardest part of weight loss. When you have to go 7 to 8 hours without eating before dinner you want plenty of slow-burning calories. Long chain fats, protein, slow carbs, with plenty of fiber. My typical breakfast ends up being one slice of bread with liver pate and cheese, another with peanut butter and either nutella(if I'm doing morning cardio or some other exercise mid-day. Lots of sugar in nutella, which gets used up immediately by the exercise anyway) or various kinds of jam with no added sugar(usually pear and apple, since they're not so tart and are pretty sweet without added sugar), and a protein pudding cup(20g protein). The bread needs to be whole-grain, of course. Ideally 100% whole grain. This ends up being about 700 calories, which is a pretty substantial breakfast. And most importantly, it includes a lot of protein(from liver, peanut butter, cheese, the bread and the pudding), a good mix of saturated fats with plenty of SCFA and MCT from the cheese and liver, mono- and polyunsaturated fat from the peanut butter, and tons of soluble and insoluble fiber from the bread and peanut butter. This tends to keep me full until dinner time, at which point I can typically eat up to 1300 kcal depending on how active I've been. On extremely active days, I might either add another slice of bread to breakfast, or have a protein snack and some fruit after exercise, as well as electrolyte drink with sugar in it during(important both for energy and fluid uptake). Anyway, I'm rarely hungry except for just before eating, which is the idea. I think this would be much harder on a low-fat diet.
- friggeri 1y agoHaving experienced them, those runs were surprisingly not awful. In such cases I’ll jog a very slow mile, paying really close attention to what my body tells me (if I can walk, I can shuffle a mile or so). If anything, the act of getting out of the house and accomplishing something has more than once given me a morale and energy boost while sick. The actually awful runs I’ve had are more of the "type 2 fun" kind (running in the desert, grueling trail runs), or the occasional hungover run before I quit drinking.
- WA 1y agoDid you have the flu (influenza) or a cold? Because I had influenza once and couldn’t even walk from bed to the kitchen. I’m asking, because in German, many people call a regular cold a flu here. But the chance to catch real influenza is like once every 20 years or so. What about COVID-19?
- urban_winter 1y agoI am a runner. I had proper flu this year for the first time. I have never been that ill ever before. I could not even get upstairs to bed one night when I was at my worst.
- padjo 1y agoMy mothers advice on how to tell if it’s cold or flu: if someone dropped a big pile of money outside your window and you could get out of bed to retrieve it then it’s probably just a cold, if not it’s flu.
- stank345 1y agoIf you think you have the flu, it's a cold. If you think you're dying, it's the flu.
- titusjohnson 1y agoI had proper Flu this year, and almost exactly 4 weeks later caught COVID for the first time. Prior to these events I had a 5 year streak of being completely illness free, not a sniffle, not a head cold. Both illnesses completely K.O.'d me. Literally 5 days straight of laying on the couch alternating between sleeping, sweating, or just groaning when I tried to move. So uncomfortable I couldn't even enjoy watching TV. I spent most of my awake time just kinda.... staring at the ceiling. During the Flu on day 4 or 5 I was starting to feel a bit better, I was starting to care that my house was a bit of a wreck and the carpet in particular getting pretty gross (lots of dog treat crumbs). I did a half-assed job of vacuuming 2 bedrooms, the living room, and the den. Took maybe 15 minutes. That was the extent of my activity for the rest of the day, I was just wrecked. Had to sit down to catch my breath and get control of some violent shakes. Next time I catch the flu I have to try going for a jog. It would probably put me into a coma long enough to sleep through the rest of the cold.
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- ujkiolp 1y agothen don’t? not for everyone and that’s why it’s an achievement
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- pimeys 1y agoMy cousin played ice hockey when he was a teenager, and started playing again too soon after having a flu. That lead to a heart infection, and almost killed him. He never played ice hockey after that. So yeah, please be careful when doing sports while sick.
- RamblingCTO 1y agoI came here to say this, running while being sick is incredibly stupid, more so for men.
- mendigou 1y agoHow is it worse for men?
- RamblingCTO 1y agoI was under the impression that the risk is higher for men than for women. According to https://www.myocarditisfoundation.org/about-myocarditis/ https://www.myocarditisfoundation.org/about-myocarditis/: > Men however are twice as likely as women to develop it, but women do develop myocarditis.
- Zambyte 1y agoWhy more so for men?
- anton-c 1y agoI don't have a specific thing to back it up but from my exercise science degree(in another life) men are at a greater risk for pretty much all heart/cardiovascular problems.
- dlahoda 1y agoi had similar experience as author. so run few times a week for 7 years. i was run in pine forest(it produces air with antibiotics), sub zero, down to -20c(in light clothes and sneakers). for simple throat and nose conditions it was immediately healing, body temperature under 38c. there rule was - never stop. nor walk. only run(until get to shower). or will get ill. tested few times. in hockey people does not seem to run all time also, i was run on frozen randomized ice pieces, dirt and snow like things. i had to adapt my posture for that, basically it does not streess same joints same way, not like thread mill or flat city roads. it was good. rule was never walk. when i started to walk, slipped to ground fast.
- ourmandave 1y agoWorked with a guy who led the local running club and he'd run in nearly all weather. But even he admitted defeat after bundling up in heavy winter gear and doing a few blocks in -50F wind chill conditions.
- WalterBright 1y agoI had an operation a while back, and had to give up running for 6 weeks (running increases blood pressure which can cause internal bleeding). I was climbing the walls waiting so I could step out and resume running. One of the symptoms of the flu is aching joints. Running on aching joints may be damaging them, so I don't.
- mmmlinux 1y agoAddiction.