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What Manifest V3 Means for Brave Shields and the Use of Extensions in Brave

34 points by akyuu 1y ago

ggm 1y ago
> While Brave will continue to offer limited support for MV2 extensions, the real solution is to use Brave’s industry-leading, native features. All are available by simply downloading the Brave browser. Look I get it. This is all they can say. But it's frankly disingenuous. What about the browser extensions they don't and probably never will incorporate, like the tools to use archive sites? It's reductive to "only run the things we wrote directly"
- Dylan16807 1y ago
  Does that need v2? My impression was the list of things missing in v3 was not very long, it's just that altering requests was an important one.
  - deleted 1y ago
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greatgib 1y ago
This shows how much Brave pretends to be an independant browser but is basically just chrome. Looking at how hard it is to just preserve the features that are requested by users.
- crop_rotation 1y ago
  That's a very uncharitable way to look at things. Brave obviously doesn't have enough resources to fork chromium (even the multi trillion dollar M$FT didn't have and had to fork Chromium), but they definitely provide the best mobile browser by far.
  - ajdude 1y ago
    When I used Firefox on android it ran fine for me and supported ublock origin. Now I use Orion on iOS and it even supports sponsorblock on YouTube. I consider every browser using chromium as a backend -- especially those that started with another backend and then switch to chromium -- as a traitor to the Internet. They have no standing especially if they purport to care about things like privacy.
    - frizlab 1y ago
      Well said. I would upvote twice if I could.
    - Sabinus 1y ago
      To me, there is very little wisdom in using a piece of software designed by an internet advertising company to browse the internet. The incentives are just too perverse.
- theultdev 1y ago
  Adblocking is built in. That's really all I care about as a brave user.
- rs186 1y ago
  Eh, when did Brave "pretend" to be an independent browser?
- eviks 1y ago
  Will any other "just Chrome"allow you to run the full UBO post mv2 removal? > Update: As of v1.81, we host the following Manifest V2 (MV2) extensions on Brave’s backend: AdGuard, uBO, uMatrix, NoScript. These extensions operate independently from the equivalent versions that are currently present on the Chrome Web Store, and have to be downloaded separately
lousken 1y ago
it would be nice if they joined other chromium forks in the battle and created a v2 store
catlikesshrimp 1y ago
Don't panic until the last Firefox ESR to support MV2 expires. You can panic then, powerusers.
- 5- 1y ago
  firefox continues to support mv2 alongside mv3 and has no plans to the contrary as far as i know.
  - ls612 1y ago
    I think that the concern is more that without Google money Mozilla likely goes bankrupt and Firefox development ends.
zackify 1y ago
It's such a pain when you want to do something that is easily possible but manifest v3 won't allow it... like having an internal extension that references remote content...
DavideNL 1y ago
> "Users can download and enable these 4 extensions from the brave://settings/extensions/v2 page." Does that mean existing uBlock Origin users should re-download the extension ? Confusing instructions...

34 points by akyuu 1y ago

ggm 1y ago

> While Brave will continue to offer limited support for MV2 extensions, the real solution is to use Brave’s industry-leading, native features. All are available by simply downloading the Brave browser. Look I get it. This is all they can say. But it's frankly disingenuous. What about the browser extensions they don't and probably never will incorporate, like the tools to use archive sites? It's reductive to "only run the things we wrote directly"

Dylan16807 1y ago
Does that need v2? My impression was the list of things missing in v3 was not very long, it's just that altering requests was an important one.
- deleted 1y ago
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greatgib 1y ago

This shows how much Brave pretends to be an independant browser but is basically just chrome. Looking at how hard it is to just preserve the features that are requested by users.

crop_rotation 1y ago
That's a very uncharitable way to look at things. Brave obviously doesn't have enough resources to fork chromium (even the multi trillion dollar M$FT didn't have and had to fork Chromium), but they definitely provide the best mobile browser by far.
- ajdude 1y ago
  When I used Firefox on android it ran fine for me and supported ublock origin. Now I use Orion on iOS and it even supports sponsorblock on YouTube. I consider every browser using chromium as a backend -- especially those that started with another backend and then switch to chromium -- as a traitor to the Internet. They have no standing especially if they purport to care about things like privacy.
  - frizlab 1y ago
    Well said. I would upvote twice if I could.
  - Sabinus 1y ago
    To me, there is very little wisdom in using a piece of software designed by an internet advertising company to browse the internet. The incentives are just too perverse.
theultdev 1y ago
Adblocking is built in. That's really all I care about as a brave user.
rs186 1y ago
Eh, when did Brave "pretend" to be an independent browser?
eviks 1y ago
Will any other "just Chrome"allow you to run the full UBO post mv2 removal? > Update: As of v1.81, we host the following Manifest V2 (MV2) extensions on Brave’s backend: AdGuard, uBO, uMatrix, NoScript. These extensions operate independently from the equivalent versions that are currently present on the Chrome Web Store, and have to be downloaded separately

lousken 1y ago

it would be nice if they joined other chromium forks in the battle and created a v2 store

catlikesshrimp 1y ago

Don't panic until the last Firefox ESR to support MV2 expires. You can panic then, powerusers.

5- 1y ago
firefox continues to support mv2 alongside mv3 and has no plans to the contrary as far as i know.
- ls612 1y ago
  I think that the concern is more that without Google money Mozilla likely goes bankrupt and Firefox development ends.

zackify 1y ago

It's such a pain when you want to do something that is easily possible but manifest v3 won't allow it... like having an internal extension that references remote content...

DavideNL 1y ago

> "Users can download and enable these 4 extensions from the brave://settings/extensions/v2 page." Does that mean existing uBlock Origin users should re-download the extension ? Confusing instructions...