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Not sure if it's coincidental that OpenAI's open weights release got delayed right after an ostensibly excellent open weights model (Kimi K2) got released today
by adidoit 1y ago
Not sure if it's coincidental that OpenAI's open weights release got delayed right after an ostensibly excellent open weights model (Kimi K2) got released today.
https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/ https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/
OpenAI know they need to raise the bar with their release. It can't be a middle-of-the-pack open weights model.
- lossolo 1y agoThis could be it, especially since they announced last week that it would be the best open-source model.
- reactordev 1y agoTechnically they were right when they said it, in their minds. Things are moving so fast that in a week, it will be true again.
- sigmoid10 1y agoThey might also be focusing all their work on beating Grok 4 now, since xAi has a significant edge in accumulating computing power and they opened a considerable gap in raw intelligence tests like ARC and HLE. OpenAI is in this to win the competitive race, not the open one.
- unsupp0rted 1y ago> They might also be focusing all their work on beating Grok 4 now, With half the key team members they had a month prior
- sigmoid10 1y agoI'm starting to think talent is way less concentrated in these individuals than execs would have investors believe. While all those people who left OpenAI certainly have the ability to raise ridiculous sums of venture capital in all sorts of companies, Anthropic remains the only offspring that has actually reached a level where they can go head-to-head with OpenAI. Zuck now spending billions on snatching those people seems more like a move out of desperation than a real plan.
- agentcoops 1y agoAt this point, it seems to be more engineering throughput that will decide short to medium term outcomes. I’ve yet to see a case where an IC who took a position only because of X in fact outrageous compensation package (especially if not directly tied to longterm company performance through equity) was ever productive again. Meta certainly doesn’t strike me as a company that attracts talent for their “mission.” TLDR Zuck’s recent actions definitely smell like a predictable failure driven by desperation to me.
- gdbsjjdn 1y agoThey've kind of played themselves making "genius engineers" their competitive advantage. Anyone can hire those engineers!
- Lalabadie 1y agoMeta/Facebook waiting until they're out of step, then trying to hire the leaders has been their modus operandi since they missed on mobile photo sharing and acquired Instagram.
- blurbleblurble 1y agoYet it suspiciously can't draw a pelican?
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- yfw 1y agoDont be mechahitler?
- bilsbie 1y agoBtw why is there no k2 discussion on HN? Isn’t it pretty huge news?
- always_imposter 1y agohad to search for the discussion, it's here, seems like nobody noticed it and it only couple hundred upvotes. Here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44533403 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44533403
- homebrewer 1y ago[flagged]
- Alifatisk 1y agoHow can you tell the user been shadowbanned?
- gruez 1y agocheck his comment history. it's all [flagged]
- always_imposter 1y ago[dead]
- Sabinus 1y agoAll the comments are not flagged, go back another page. Nor are the most recent posts.
- otterley 1y agoWhy don’t you start one?
- Alifatisk 1y agoThere is, but it’s not on the front page so you don’t find it unless you go through multiple pages or manually search it up. Moonshot ai has released banger models without much noise about it. Like for example Kimi K1.5, it was quite impressive at the time
- jekwoooooe 1y agoEvery openai model since gpt4 has been behind the curve by miles