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> CC at like a 500% loss Do you have a citation for this? It might be at a loss, but I don’t think it is that extravagant.
by teruakohatu 1y ago
> CC at like a 500% loss
Do you have a citation for this?
It might be at a loss, but I don’t think it is that extravagant.
- rolisz 1y agoBefore they announced the Max plans, I could easily hit 10-15$ of API usage per day (without even being a heavy user). Since they announced that you can use the Pro subscription with Claude Code, I've been using it much more and I've never ever been rate limited.
- asaddhamani 1y agoAPI prices are way higher than actual inference cost.
- 3uler 1y agoThis is what I don’t get about the cost being reported by Claude code. At work I use it against our AWS Bedrock instance, and most sessions will say 15/20 dollars and I’ll have multiple agents running. So I can easily spend 60 bucks a day in reported cost. Our AWS Bedrock bill is only a small fraction of that? Why would you over charge on direct usage of your API?
- mike_hearn 1y agoAnthropic has costs beyond their AWS bill ....
- csomar 1y agoThe way I am doing the math with my Max subscription and assuming DeepSeek API prices, it is still x5 times cheaper. So either DeepSeek is losing money (unlikely) or Anthropic is losing lots of money (more likely). Grok kinda confirms my suspicions. Assuming DeepSeek prices, I've probably spent north of $100 of Grok compute. I didn't pay Grok or Twitter a single cent. $100 is a lot of loss for a single user.
- tonyhart7 1y agowhat?? sonnet/opus is way better than deepseek, how can you compare that to deepseek also you probably talking about distilled deepseek model
- nurettin 1y agoI haven't tried deepseek but I've seen claude do crazy things if you are at the correct random.seed
- Tokumei-no-hito 1y agowhat do you mean about correct random.seed?
- christina97 1y agoIt means “if you’re unlucky”.
- nurettin 1y agoTo me, claude usually feels like a bumbling idiot. But in extremely rare cases it feels like a sentient super intelligence. I facetiously assumed that in those cases it ran on the correct RNG seed.
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- manojlds 1y agoComparison should be with Claude API pricing. It doesn't matter what other models cost.
- vmg12 1y agoClaude API pricing has significant margin baked in. I think it's safe to assume that anthropic is getting 80% margin on their api and they are selling claude code for less than that.
- artursapek 1y agoYou can spend $200 worth of tokens in a single day using the Max $200/mo fixed cost plan.
- resonious 1y agoI'm also curious about this. Claude Code feels very expensive to me, but at the same time I don't have much perspective (nothing to compare it to, really, other than Codex or other agent editors I guess. And CC is way better so likely worth the extra money anyway)
- harikb 1y agoI think GP is talking about Claude Code Max 100 & 200 plans. They are very reasonable compared to anything else that has per-use token usage. I am on Max and I can work 5 hrs+ a day easily. It does fall back to Sonnet pretty fast, but I don't seem to notice any big differece.
- sothatsit 1y agoYou can tell Claude Code to use opus using /model and then it doesn't fall back to Sonnet btw. I am on the $100 plan and I hit rate-limits every now and then, but not enough to warrant using Sonnet instead of Opus.
- e1g 1y agoYes, my CC usage is regularly $50-$100 per day, so their Max plan is absolutely great value that I don’t expect to last.
- bilsbie 1y agoIs there a cheap version for hobbyists? Or what’s the best thing for hobbyists to use, just cut and paste?
- hanklazard 1y agoCursor at 20$/M is pretty great
- taxborn 1y agoI've been enjoying Zed lately