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GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
- armored_mammal 14y agoSince it's 2.8 series it should have single-window mode, no?
- dguaraglia 14y agoYep, it does Windows->Single-Window Mode. So. Much. Better.
- armored_mammal 14y agoYeah, the multi-window thing only ever made sense for tiling window managers. And even with that it was a bit of a stretch. That said, I don't think there's a more under-estimated or misunderstood program around.
- Avshalom 14y agoI'm actually pretty sure it was a adopted from the original multi-window interface of Photoshop on Mac.
- pippy 14y agoI'm still bewildered why this isn't the default.
- kapilkale 14y agoThank you. There's some buggy behavior about windows staying on top despite switching applications, and this fixes it.
- jfaucett 14y agoI love it! GIMP is one of those tools that's "almost" a photohop killer, not quite yet, but this is a big step in the right direction. Good job GIMP team! As an asside, I think the plugin API and scheme joice is great and a blast to develope with I'd just like to see others jump on board. EDIT: I thought I'd add this since there seems to be a large discussion below as to the type of user for which GIMP is applicable. I'm a software dev, in the past couple of years though mainly web apps where I've had to at times do graphics, for this GIMP worked fine for me (that's my pitch in the discussion). I think GIMP shines (as well as the traditional imagemagick) for batch processing, the scripting is easy, clean, fast - and lispy :) Some links for those interested: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/ http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/ http://www.squidoo.com/gimp-how-to-write-a-script-fu-macro http://www.squidoo.com/gimp-how-to-write-a-script-fu-macro
- rcgs 14y agoAs someone who uses Photoshop almost every day, it's nowhere near a "photoshop killer". The workflow is still one of the worst I have stumbled across.
- DanBC 14y agoFor people who need to put some text on an image[1] or who need to tweak some minor stuff gimp is a "photoshop killer" - and it's nice to push people to legally free software rather than a pirate download of Photoshop. [1] But see this gimp document - the first returned hit in a search for [gimp drop shadow text] - which appears to be weirdly complex. http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/The_Basics/ http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/The_Basics/
- tomwalsham 14y agoSpeaking of weirdly complex, I've always been a fan of the totally deadpan delivery of the 'Straight Line Tutorial' [gimp lacks a 'line' or 'shape' tool] http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Straight_Line/ http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Straight_Line/
- stuaxo 14y agoI've been lambasted for not knowing how to do this in gimp... all I wanted was an icon somewhere!
- wtallis 14y agoAt first glance, it doesn't seem like this Mac version is capable of using the system's installed fonts - only the fonts bundled with the app.
- eridius 14y agoIf you need to do basic image editing on OS X I'd say use Acorn[1] or Pixelmator[2]. [1]: http://flyingmeat.com/acorn/ http://flyingmeat.com/acorn/ [2]: http://www.pixelmator.com http://www.pixelmator.com
- viraj_shah 14y agoThe interface looks significantly better, at least from the last time I messed around with it (which was a while ago).
- jaytaylor 14y agoAgreed. This is a huge step forward for Gimp!
- wtallis 14y agoSo, is this an app that bundles it's own X11, or is it using a Quartz/Cocoa backend for GTK? EDIT: I downloaded it, and the app bundle doesn't seem to have an X11, so that's nice. However, upon firing it up, it throws up a splash screen in front of all other applications. Who still thinks that's acceptable behavior on a multitasking operating system? Also, the app quits when the last window is closed, which isn't how OS X apps are supposed to behave.
- bonch 14y ago> Also, the app quits when the last window is closed, which isn't how OS X apps are supposed to behave. Close the last document in TextEdit on Mountain Lion and see what happens to TextEdit.
- sliverstorm 14y agoWho still thinks that's acceptable behavior Adobe still does, and of all apps, GIMP is going to be one of the most likely to emulate them.
- MikeCapone 14y agoPhotoshop's splash screen doesn't stay on top of all other windows and steal focus, at least not in the version that I have. If anyone from GIMP is reading this, I strongly recommend that you fix that or at least allow us to disable the splash screen. Thank you.
- w1ntermute 14y agoHave you tried this: http://kuoi.com/~kamikaze/read.php?id=129 http://kuoi.com/~kamikaze/read.php?id=129 Looks kind of old, but it might still work.
- graue 14y agoOff-topic rant: "Someone with spare time on their hands feel like adding a 'Disable splash screen' checkbox to the preferences panel?" That suggestion illustrates a common anti-pattern in open source software. Broken behavior should simply be fixed, not receive an extra option to turn it off. No one wants to have to check an "unbreak my software" checkbox.
- fuzionmonkey 14y agoDoes it have Retina display support? I'd download this in a heartbeat. It's frustrating how long it is taken Adobe to update their software for Hi-DPI.
- llimllib 14y agoNo: http://i.imgur.com/5AMU4.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5AMU4.jpg (Edit: that's Gimp and Acorn in the screenshot, respectively, in case you weren't clear what was going on.)
- toyg 14y agoWe don't know how much warning Apple gave them. To be fair, two months to update such beastly products is really nothing, especially when you have to change core functionality (like on-screen rendering in an image-creation tool...). I'd say 4 to 6 months would be an acceptable turnaround time for the most important products. Compare with Microsoft, which simply won't support retina "for the time being"...
- bigfrakkinghero 14y agoThis is awesome! One of my biggest gripes with using OSX was how terrible the GIMP experience was.
- crazygringo 14y agoThis is a great move. Serious question: how did this not happen 5 years ago? Is there some technical reason? It's so hard for me to understand why the creators wouldn't have always had this as the #1 feature improvement to make ASAP.
- armored_mammal 14y agoI doubt most GIMP developers care(d?) about Mac. Or had Macs. Open source stuff tends to live in a special universe where everyone uses Linux. (In fact, based on another post, it sounds like the windowing toolkit picked up Mac support, rather than Gimp doing anything super special.)
- fosap 14y agoAlso GIMP is in desperate need of manpower.
- wlesieutre 14y agoThere was Seashore, which was a simpler image editor based on GIMP, but native integration never seemed to be a priority for GIMP. I think there's a commonly held view on open source projects that they're all doing you a service, and if you don't like the tool they wrote you can fix it yourself or use something else. I can't say there's anything particularly wrong with that view, but it doesn't always lead to the greatest user experience. I can only assume that someone (or several someones) with the time and knowhow to get this done finally came along and decided it was worth investing their time in. I doubt it's as exciting as working on the image editing features.
- Camillo 14y agoA "native" version of GTK had been in the works for years, mainly supported by people who wanted to run other programs with it (CinePaint, I think). It seems that nobody had the interest in getting Gimp working with it, the skills to accomplish that, the time to dedicate to it, and the spirit of sacrifice needed to work on a GTK 2 port when GTK 3 is already out. But somehow, in the end, the stars aligned.
- tcc619 14y agoThis feature along with the single window view makes GIMP very usable on the mac.
- MikeCapone 14y agoSlightly off-topic (but I know very savvy people are here, so I can't help but ask): Anyone knows where I could find a JPEG-2000 plug-in for GIMP that works on this Mac version, along with instructions on how to install it?
- jon6 14y agoOT but is this an official signed application that can work with gatekeeper on 10.8? I recently discovered that my open source project won't work by default on osx 10.8 without me paying $99 to get an apple certificate, which I'm not very interested in doing. What are open source/free projects supposed to do about gatekeeper?
- callahad 14y ago> What are open source/free projects supposed to do about gatekeeper? They're supposed to pay up. The signing Developer Certificate Utility at https://developer.apple.com/certificates/ https://developer.apple.com/certificates/ rejects accounts that are not paid members of the Mac Developer Program, and a footnote at https://developer.apple.com/resources/developer-id/ https://developer.apple.com/resources/developer-id/ states that "Mac Developer Program membership is required to access the tools and resources for distributing Mac applications."
- plorkyeran 14y agoTell users how to turn it off. I've never seen a user object to doing so, possibly because they don't understand what it's doing in the first place.
- stephen_g 14y agoYou don't have to turn it off. Just Command click the application and click open the first time. It's automatically added to a whitelist.
- pnathan 14y agoI disabled Gatekeeper's hollering on 10.8. I suspect most power users will do the same, but I have no data for that suspicion.
- msbarnett 14y ago"Power Users" can have the best of both worlds by simply right-clicking and selecting "Open" to whitelist specific non-signed apps that they want to trust. I'd mostly expect people who turn it off entirely to fit the "don't really know what they're doing but like to do whatever a forum post tells them to do" archetype.
- devindotcom 14y agoThank god, maybe I can finally leave behind Pixelmator.
- jamesu 14y agoI have to say, i'm impressed. One of the biggest reasons I never really used GIMP on OSX was that the X11 version never really felt right. This version in comparison feels a lot better, though there are still a few annoying things about it, such as the image editing itself seems a bit laggy. Still, a good step in the right direction IMO!
- Cyranix 14y agoThe primary download link is getting hammered at the moment; check for a mirror that has an OSX directory for fast access.
- Kilimanjaro 14y agoI've been using the outdated Seashore for my basic crop/resize needs. Will try asap.
- captaincrowbar 14y agoNow if only Inkscape would follow suit. There are plenty of good bitmap image editors for the Mac, but I could really use a good vector editor.
- Flow 14y agoI like Sketch, it's cheap, very good and is aware of pixels. http://bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ http://bohemiancoding.com/sketch/
- scoofy 14y agoWhy can't i move a selection within a layer? This has to be the most persistent problem in the mac version that hasn't been fixed. With every new GIMP version i curse this bug.
- armored_mammal 14y agoIt's a GIMP thing, unless I'm misunderstanding you: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-selections.html http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-selections.html
- scoofy 14y ago>>hold down Ctrl+Alt keys and click-and-drag the selection. This makes the original place empty. A floating selection is created. The required key commands may differ on your system, look in the status bar to see if another combination is specified; for example, Shift+Ctrl+Alt. This does not function on mac as far as i know. You cannot even manually do it in the selection options.
- stuaxo 14y agoMaybe substitute ctrl for command?
- city41 14y agoThere is also McGimp, which is a fully OSX native version of Gimp: http://www.partha.com/ http://www.partha.com/
- nimrody 14y agoCan you summarize the main advantages/disadvantages?
- DenisM 14y agoAny thoughts on this new GIMP vis-a-vis Photoshop Elements? I don't mind paying <$100 for a decent graphics editor. My primary use case is tweaking screenshots, app icons, buttons, and the like for my iOS apps and the web site. I want to get in and out as quick as possible, so I can get back to my other work.
- kellishaver 14y agoI haven't tried GIMP in ages, but have a look at Pixelmator. It's a great little app. http://www.pixelmator.com/ http://www.pixelmator.com/ It has a lot of features for not a lot of money, and a very Photoshop-like interface.
- danieldk 14y agoPhotoshop Elements is a light-weight blend of Photoshop and Lightroom. It's more for managing photo collections, tweaking things like exposure and contrast, removing red eyes, etc. If you want a sub-$100 Photoshop replacement, I'd go for Pixelmator. It's really affordable, and provides the functionality that most users need.
- zyb09 14y agoGIMP, tried out a lot of image editors and imho it goes like this: Photoshop > GIMP > Elements > Pixelmator. Pixelmator has a really nice UI, but it's lacking features left and right. Photoshop is still the nicest, especially for coders, who don't know what they are doing (real artist only need a canvas and a brush anyway).
- bazzargh 14y agoI'm a gimp user. My mum (who has a mac, but isnt a confident computer user) asked for 'photoshop' for christmas after seeing what I'd done fixing up family photos. I knew if I just gave her Gimp (or Photoshop for that matter) she'd just get stuck - they aren't very user friendly. I had a look at all the image editors I could - Acorn, Seashore, Pixelmator, etc and came to the conclusion that Photoshop Elements beat them all for ease of use. Specific things that help are the guided actions (in the panel on the right) that act like wizards for performing common actions, but also teach you how to do these things; and the selection & healing tools are miles better than those in the other tools. Take a look at the demo on the top left here: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-elements/features.html http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-elements/features.ht... ... it's talking about the smart brush, which I don't bother with, but what you're looking at is how well it manages to select within a picture. I still prefer using Gimp, but for quick photo edits, I tend to use PE now. However, I tend to work with photos not eg icons as you do - not sure if PE is any use for that.
- larrywright 14y agoThe excellent Pixelmator is only $14.99 in the Mac App Store. I'm not sure how much use their is for Gimp on OS X any more.
- niels_olson 14y agoI like using GIMP because it's what I use on Ubuntu and Suse and I use a lot of different machines (two XP boxes on different networks at work, several OSes at home, and I change jobs every couple of years). Photoshop isn't cross-platform, and the licensing would be prohibitive for my needs. For my brother, a professional artist with his own studio, Photoshop is the only way to go. For my daughter on a Cr-48, GIMP is great.
- joejohnson 14y agoI wish it were available from the App Store.
- mmphosis 14y agoGIMP Crashes on launching 32bit CPU https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682913 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682913 $ file GIMP.app/Contents/MacOS/GIMP-bin GIMP.app/Contents/MacOS/GIMP-bin: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
- delackner 14y agoSome day in the distant future perhaps there will actually be a non-photoshop 100% psd compatible editor. I thought I could just tell my designer to do File -> Export Layers as PNG, but that command in Photoshop is intentionally broken, churning for several minutes before producing even the first of many output files. In the meantime, while I like seeing how far Gimp has come, it just isn't an option for me.
- akldfgj 14y agoDoesn't come with decent-looking fonts included, though.
- unwind 14y agoThere was some confusion about whether this release (which wasn't done by the "ordinary" Mac OS X package maintainer) meant that the role had been appointed to someone else: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2012-August/msg00217.html https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2012-Aug.... I hope that is getting resolved, it's always painful to see large projects like GIMP suffer from "people problems" and developers become disgruntled as a result.
- jyap 14y agoTIP: I've been a long time GIMP for Mac OS X user (being a former laptop Linux users). New GIMP crashed in me on the first run. It then hung on start up on the 2nd run. I just deleted my old GIMP configuration directories and it started up fine: rm -fr ~/Library/Application\ Support/Gimp/
- calgaryeng 14y agoIs there a way to permanently dock the toolbar in the Mac version? I had this in the old version.... Now I get floating docks over top of other applications even when Gimp is in the background!