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If the coyotes breed, then attacks on humans will begin as the coyotes will instinctively defend their cubs from humans who get too close to the den, even unwit
by doug-moen 1y ago
If the coyotes breed, then attacks on humans will begin as the coyotes will instinctively defend their cubs from humans who get too close to the den, even unwittingly. It would be better to remove the coyotes before this happens.
- fmbb 1y agoCoyotes are tiny critters. Surely they don’t attack humans?
- pinkmuffinere 1y agoThey do on occasion, and there have even been a couple of deaths. But to your point, the rate is very very low. Edit: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_attack
- throw0101d 1y ago> Coyotes are tiny critters. Surely they don’t attack humans? Perhaps adult humans are less likely, but child humans the risk could be higher as a coyote may think they can 'take' them; from a few days ago: * https://globalnews.ca/news/11267424/nobelton-coyote-attack/ https://globalnews.ca/news/11267424/nobelton-coyote-attack/
- kibwen 1y agoIt sounds like you're on the west coast, where coyotes are tiny. East coast coyotes are much larger, on the order of a good-sized dog. That said, I welcome coyotes in urban spaces, and have admired from afar the few bold urban coyotes I've come across. Humans need reminders that they're a part of nature and not apart from nature, especially in the city. In terms of actual danger, coyotes kill approximately infinity times fewer people than cars do, so let's focus infinity times more energy on solving that problem first.
- billfor 1y agoOn the east coast the coyotes interbreed with wolves and form coywolves which are really huge and can be nasty. Look at the picture on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_coyote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_coyote. It's only a matter of time before something bad happens to a small child. They've already killed a lot of small dogs.
- pfdietz 1y agoThey're expanding/evolving into the niche that wolves occupied. The superabundance of deer is facilitating that.
- GauntletWizard 1y agoDingoes are a good percentage smaller than Coyotes on average and maximum (Dingoes 22 – 33 lbs, Coyotes 20 – 46 lbs). Dingoes are small, to the point where "Dingoes ate my baby" was a common and sarcastic joke after a reported attack - And yet that attack was extensively proven[1]. Yes, a small group of Coyotes could easily corner or snatch a small child and pose a danger to such. Is it likely? No. Is it reasonable to relocate the coyotes? Absolutely. It might also be reasonable to manage and not relocate the coyotes. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_Chamberlain-Creighton#Evidence_that_a_dingo_took_Azaria_Chamberlain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_Chamberlain-Creighton#Ev...
- triceratops 1y agoThey're the size of a medium size dog, only not friendly. If we don't accept off-leash dogs in public I don't understand why coyotes are tolerated in human cities.
- amanaplanacanal 1y agoThey are tolerated because there is no human you can yell at to keep them on a leash.
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- skeeter2020 1y agoWhat do you mean tolerated? How many coyotes have you personally eradicated? If not you then who?
- triceratops 1y agoDepartment of animal control usually.
- vunderba 1y agoThe ones I've come across in the southwest portion of the U.S. are pretty small, and from Wikipedia: "The average male weighs 8 to 20 kg (18 to 44 lb) and the average female 7 to 18 kg (15 to 40 lb).". My Pyrenees/husky mix absolutely dwarfs them and they give her a WIDE berth the few times I've seen them while hiking.
- southernplaces7 1y agoAt least when it comes to coyotes on the Pacific Northwest, they're not tiny at all. I've seen specimens that easily had the size of a largish German shepherd, many times. 30 to 40 kilos isn't rare, and that's not a tiny critter at all. It's definitely a threat to a kid or nearly any dog and could give even an adult male human a run for their money if the coyote actually got aggressive enough to lunge (that at least isn't likely, since they're fantastically cowardly when confronted by any aggression from adult humans, at least in my experience)
- kjkjadksj 1y agoCoyotes are all over socal and they really don’t go for people at all. Small dogs maybe.
- giantg2 1y agoGenerally true but there are exceptions.
- otoburb 1y ago>>Small dogs maybe. A judge in Brooklyn recently ruled[1] that dogs are (now) classified as "immediate family members". I wonder if the this might push the Central Park Conservancy to step up considerations for eradication of the coyotes to avoid potential emotional damages in light of the ruling if such a situation were to occur. [1] https://www.nonhumanrights.org/blog/dogs-family-members/ https://www.nonhumanrights.org/blog/dogs-family-members/
- skeeter2020 1y agoif we're lucky maybe the coyotes will take out this judge?
- throw0101d 1y ago> Coyotes are all over socal and they really don’t go for people at all. From four days ago: * https://globalnews.ca/news/11267424/nobelton-coyote-attack/ https://globalnews.ca/news/11267424/nobelton-coyote-attack/ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- mikestew 1y agoNo one is saying that it doesn’t happen. One-off stories don’t prove anything one way or the other.
- metabagel 1y agoSmaller children are at risk for coyote attacks. A 12-year-old boy does seem a bit unusual, but he wasn't paying attention to his surroundings. It may depend somewhat on whether the animal was rabid, or how hungry/desperate the animal was for food.
- IG_Semmelweiss 1y agoIf you have plentiful prey (rats outnumber humans in NYC) , this is not likely to happen
- lawlessone 1y agoAs the other post mentioned they can be aggressive to protect cubs then it is not about hunger..
- steveBK123 1y agoProbably biggest human coyote interaction risks in Central Park will be the bikers and dog walkers.
- slwvx 1y agoHumans are a bigger risk to coyotes than coyotes to humans. > It would be better to remove the coyotes before this happens. following this logic, we should just kill all coyotes. We did this to lotsa other species, I hope we've stopped that.
- bpodgursky 1y agoIn cities where parks are the few places kids can play outdoors yes that is a reasonable idea.
- skeeter2020 1y agoI wouldn't worry about this; pretty rare that today's parent lets their kid farther away than arms length!
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- triceratops 1y ago> we should just kill all coyotes At least relocate them out of cities. Why would you ever want a predator that large living inside a city? Let a dog, a domesticated animal that we trust to live in our homes with our children and babies, off-leash in a city and people lose their minds. But coyotes move in and everyone's chill? Wtf
- rufus_foreman 1y agoWhere I live you can shoot coyotes in any season with a hunting permit. That's chill? OK then, let's be chill about off-leash dogs and apply the same rules to them.
- triceratops 1y agoThat's not what the story is about. But you sound like you want to shoot dogs.
- cowmoo728 1y agoI've seen this exact pair of coyotes three times now. I have a few blurry photos of them. They're about the size of my dog, who is roughly 60 pounds, so they are sizable and could hunt a small dog or child. However, they're very cautious around people still, and appear well fed. The wildlife in central park is highly adapted to the presence of people and stays away, except to dig through the park trash.
- msgodel 1y agoSssh. They don't want to hear it. It won't bother those of us who don't live there and they'll figure it out in a few years.
- bell-cot 1y agoCoyotes have been breeding near human settlements, at scale, for thousands of years. Attacks happen, but are very rare. I'd speculate that there has been considerable selective pressure against the "not highly avoidant of attacking humans" trait in coyotes.
- VTimofeenko 1y agoIME(living in almost rural area, coyotes live in/near stormwater ponds and are abundant) they will follow you if you get too close to the den to try to drive you away, but won't engage. Coyote pups are adorable though. A couple of them made a lair in a drain about a month ago but have relocated since. Still see one of them around the neighborhood with his distinctive tail.
- woodpanel 1y agoOr a couple of decades of lost human lives until enough voters realize that the underlying ideology (that celebrates Coyotes next to playgrounds) absolutely values human life lower than what should be acceptable.