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>Still great for tracking people though. No, no it isn't. Cameras, license plate readers, air tags, phones, literally just stalking someone, and that sort of

>Still great for tracking people though. No, no it isn't. Cameras, license plate readers, air tags, phones, literally just stalking someone, and that sort of thing is great for tracking people. They are easier, vastly less prone to false positives, etc. Your wife/husband isn't going to use a DNA air sniffer to figure out if you were at the strippers. They'll just follow you from a few car lengths back, or ask one of your friends, etc. And if your concern is government, there are way easier, scalable, way more accurate ways to invade your privacy that are already proven to work and have the infrastructure already setup.

pbhjpbhj 1y ago
>...way easier, scalable, way more accurate ways to invade your privacy that are already proven to work... That aren't detectable? That you can't easily take precautions against? If sequencing were cheap then it would be a hidden way to check who was at a venue - better than gait (or other biometric) analysis from video. For some uses this seems like a revolutionary monitoring technique.
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- qualeed 1y ago
  >That aren't detectable? Of course. How do you detect or protect against when the FBI/NSA/three-letter-agency has a warrant for your cellphone (or Google, car, local coffee shop cameras, Ring cameras, credit card, etc.) information alongside a gag order? How often do you check your cars undercarriage for GPS monitors? Do you know how many times your car has been imaged by a license plate camera recently? Again, I'm not saying that this technology is useless. It's just a lot worse, on several dimensions, than technology that is already invading your privacy this second. If this technology was seriously beginning to be used to track people, a handful of people can thwart it by carrying around an air filter and shaking it every now and again.
amelius 1y ago
Until you realize that it is a cookie that you can't delete ...
vkou 1y ago
Not to mention that if you are innocent, and the government wants to fuck with you in particular, they won't need to go through this dog and pony show to do so. They'll just send a half-dozen masked men to disappear you and then say to anyone that asks that you were an illegal immigrant with an unpaid parking ticket from 2005. All of this stuff only matters if they are stupid enough to ever let you see the inside of a courtroom. And if you do, you're free to raise the obvious, believable defense that this is the flimsiest, most circumstantial of evidence imaginable. If that's the best evidence they have, you should ask for a bench trial, no judge with an above-room temperature IQ will convict you.

pbhjpbhj 1y ago

>...way easier, scalable, way more accurate ways to invade your privacy that are already proven to work... That aren't detectable? That you can't easily take precautions against? If sequencing were cheap then it would be a hidden way to check who was at a venue - better than gait (or other biometric) analysis from video. For some uses this seems like a revolutionary monitoring technique.

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qualeed 1y ago
>That aren't detectable? Of course. How do you detect or protect against when the FBI/NSA/three-letter-agency has a warrant for your cellphone (or Google, car, local coffee shop cameras, Ring cameras, credit card, etc.) information alongside a gag order? How often do you check your cars undercarriage for GPS monitors? Do you know how many times your car has been imaged by a license plate camera recently? Again, I'm not saying that this technology is useless. It's just a lot worse, on several dimensions, than technology that is already invading your privacy this second. If this technology was seriously beginning to be used to track people, a handful of people can thwart it by carrying around an air filter and shaking it every now and again.

amelius 1y ago

Until you realize that it is a cookie that you can't delete ...

vkou 1y ago

Not to mention that if you are innocent, and the government wants to fuck with you in particular, they won't need to go through this dog and pony show to do so. They'll just send a half-dozen masked men to disappear you and then say to anyone that asks that you were an illegal immigrant with an unpaid parking ticket from 2005. All of this stuff only matters if they are stupid enough to ever let you see the inside of a courtroom. And if you do, you're free to raise the obvious, believable defense that this is the flimsiest, most circumstantial of evidence imaginable. If that's the best evidence they have, you should ask for a bench trial, no judge with an above-room temperature IQ will convict you.