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> most people won't switch because of network effects, so meta can keep tightening the screws Network effects are much much smaller for messaging apps vis-a-vi

> most people won't switch because of network effects, so meta can keep tightening the screws Network effects are much much smaller for messaging apps vis-a-vis social networks because there is no problem in incrementally moving your DMs from one place to another.

whiplash451 1y ago
There is a massive barrier to switching. In order to switch, you also need to convince your acquaintances to switch. Good luck with that.
- bootsmann 1y ago
  There is no switching involved, you can have two apps installed at the same time. It's not a social network where posting to one means the people posting on the other won't see your stuff.
  - amelius 1y ago
    You are ignoring chat groups here.
  - swarnie 1y ago
    You're always going to send the message on the app with 100% coverage. I'm not switching apps to send the same message to 50% of people and then again to 100% resulting in some switchers getting it twice. And lets be honest, people dont walk around recommending chat apps to each other. It hasn't been 2010 for at least five years.
- aleph_minus_one 1y ago
  > In order to switch, you also need to convince your acquaintances to switch. Rather: you have to to convince yourself to be willing to make it a little bit harder, if necessary, for these acquaintances to contact you. :-)
- upcoming-sesame 1y ago
  This needs a regulatory involvement (for federation)
  - alternatex 1y ago
    That already happened in EU with trying to force leading communications platforms to integrate with at least one competitor. I remember an initiative to make WhatsApp integrate with (wait for it..) Skype. I'm not sure how or why it fizzled out.
- barbazoo 1y ago
  When I did it, because my phone supports multiple apps being installed at the same time, I was able to do it gradually. Most people I know do have a second option to reach them so it wasn't a problem at all.

whiplash451 1y ago

There is a massive barrier to switching. In order to switch, you also need to convince your acquaintances to switch. Good luck with that.

bootsmann 1y ago
There is no switching involved, you can have two apps installed at the same time. It's not a social network where posting to one means the people posting on the other won't see your stuff.
- amelius 1y ago
  You are ignoring chat groups here.
- swarnie 1y ago
  You're always going to send the message on the app with 100% coverage. I'm not switching apps to send the same message to 50% of people and then again to 100% resulting in some switchers getting it twice. And lets be honest, people dont walk around recommending chat apps to each other. It hasn't been 2010 for at least five years.
aleph_minus_one 1y ago
> In order to switch, you also need to convince your acquaintances to switch. Rather: you have to to convince yourself to be willing to make it a little bit harder, if necessary, for these acquaintances to contact you. :-)
upcoming-sesame 1y ago
This needs a regulatory involvement (for federation)
- alternatex 1y ago
  That already happened in EU with trying to force leading communications platforms to integrate with at least one competitor. I remember an initiative to make WhatsApp integrate with (wait for it..) Skype. I'm not sure how or why it fizzled out.
barbazoo 1y ago
When I did it, because my phone supports multiple apps being installed at the same time, I was able to do it gradually. Most people I know do have a second option to reach them so it wasn't a problem at all.