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Mistral Code
- rahimnathwani 1y agoPricing is 'contact us'.
- moralestapia 1y agoDead on Arrival
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- behnamoh 1y agoSince this is a fork of continue.dev I wonder about the legal implications of monetizing the project.
- kiratp 1y agoHow do you launch a dev tool with a “contact us” call to action? It’s like Mistral is choosing to fail here. Edit: I can't even tell if its a CLI tool, an IDE plugin or a standalone IDE! Edit 2: oh man! it's at the bottom of the page Edit 3: "Mistral Code Enterprise is currently only available with an enterprise license." :D
- closewith 1y agoI think unfortunately Enterprise Call Us sales tactics are actually extremely effective.
- theyinwhy 1y agoAre they? I never look at such software again unless forced by my boss.
- aerhardt 1y agoI buy Enterprise software too and unless there is a good reason (there are no other alternatives, or I have complex requirements), I'll also quite often negatively factor being dropped into a sales funnel, with all it entails.
- closewith 1y agoA form of pre-qualification, so.
- almost 1y agoYes, but how likely were you to spend tens of thousands of dollars or more on software?
- haswell 1y agoI worked for enterprise software companies for a number of years. I’m not personally a fan of “call us” pricing, but it is indeed effective, and the companies that sell software this way do so because they prioritize establishing human relationships between a salesperson and the buyer. In the long run, this leads to more sales/upsells.
- coolgoose 1y agoPricing is worse than contact us, it's contact us and tell us your company size and revenue wtf Mistral, I wanted to maybe pick this up, as we're an european company and I want an European ai company to succeed but this is ridiculous
- conception 1y agoOpenAI will not sell you enterprise unless you can bring in a certain amount of money. Same for Anthropic. Demand is too high for small potatoes.
- themanmaran 1y agoYea but for Mistral it's not just the enterprise plan. It's all variants of the "Mistral Code". So pretty useless to launch on HN if the only CTA is booking a demo.
- bdcravens 1y agoThey aren't "launching" on HN. The user that shared this link is well known as a bulk submitter.
- Keyframe 1y agoWe ought all to write this down and remember it well when the tide changes.
- coolgoose 1y agoYea but this little tator just wanted to use the coding agent, I don't expect enterprise features. Unfortunately there's no alternative to enterprise, so no way to support an European alternative :)
- tormeh 1y agoMistral lags behind on model quality. Seems like they want to focus more on customization and customer relations. If they had a leading model they'd probably have transparent pricing.
- esafak 1y agoThey could get away with 'contact us' if they were leaders. Maybe they're courting the EU-only segment.
- tormeh 1y agoIt's the other way around - everybody wants to create products with mass appeal and have low marginal costs and print money. The people who can't manage to do that go the consultancy route and add "contact us" under their pricing.
- bossyTeacher 1y agoN/A
- AstroBen 1y agoI don't see any options for Pro or Team licenses for Mistral Code. That's only chat Seems they're purely targeting this towards enterprise
- Tokumei-no-hito 1y agonothing about this shit page is "obvious". learn about CTA because this isn't it.
- bcye 1y agoThe extension seems to be enterprise only. https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mistralai.mistral-code https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mistrala...
- Hikikomori 1y agoIs it? Mistral Code is available with enterprise deployments. Contact our team to get started.
- Toritori12 1y agoAre you sure what are you saying? The VSCode extension link [0] also redirect to the enterprise version, with no other option being available. 0: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mistralai.mistral-code https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mistrala...
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- b0a04gl 1y agoit’s wild cause the underlying tech might be sick but this enterprise gatekeeping ruins the whole arc. not every dev wants to fake a cto title just to see a pricing page.. tbh at this point just put a playground, let people touch it, break it, love it. if it’s good, it spreads. no need to run it like you're guarding the source of life.
- koakuma-chan 1y ago> it’s wild cause the underlying tech might be sick How is their underlying tech different from any other AI VSCode extension?
- b0a04gl 1y agomaybe it’s a leaner model actually tuned for coding, not just another wrapper. fast, scoped, trained right and but zero clarity. all potential, no real explanation.
- koakuma-chan 1y ago"Advanced models such as Codestral and Devstral under the hood"
- behnamoh 1y agoIDK man, I liked their API for a while due to its low latency but after a few requests the API crashes with 90% probability.
- ivape 1y agoThe underlying tech is the same exact stuff as the other frontier models.
- flakiness 1y agoInstruct "add docstrings" to JS code :shrug:
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- tonyhart7 1y agowhat is this basis on???? elaborate more
- waltercool 1y ago[dead]
- joshstrange 1y agoThis is a little embarrassing and I'm a little shocked HN hasn't flagged it to death. I seriously doubt Mistral was able to create something actually useful (or at least better than Aider/Claude Code/etc) and hiding behind enterprise sales is cowardly. Surely anyone with half a brain isn't going to roll the dice on something completely untested and coming from a company like Mistral. They have no track record in this area and their models aren't considered SOTA.
- tensor 1y agoWhile enterprise stuff is dead on arrival, their models for OCR and niche languages are indeed SOTA. Also, their local/small models are likely SOTA too if you are running in a constrained environment.
- mistrial9 1y ago> Surely anyone with half a brain isn't going to roll the dice the evidence points to the empty half, then
- e-max 1y agoWhat are the alternatives? Let's say you're something like Deutsche Bank and you need an AI solution for your dev team that is fully compliant with EU privacy laws.
- atonse 1y agoSame as others have said, with consumers wanting to try 20 different models all the time, you have to reduce the friction of trying out the model. I hope this is just a huge mistake that they aren't allowing anyone to actually try it. Word of mouth from HN and others (not just advertising a link or press release) is how I've started to use about pretty much every single AI feature I use. Assuming this isn't a mistake, it says that this company has the wrong management/leadership structure if they think they can sell a brand new developer focused coding tool without letting actual developers try it. Maybe we don't know something?
- whiplash451 1y agoPoolside does the same thing, though
- qwertox 1y agoHow will companies engage with Mistral if their developers can't just install the thing and test it? -- Here's a FAQ for Mistral Code: https://help.mistral.ai/en/collections/732571-mistral-code https://help.mistral.ai/en/collections/732571-mistral-code For example: https://help.mistral.ai/en/articles/333875-do-i-need-an-active-subscription-to-use-mistral-code https://help.mistral.ai/en/articles/333875-do-i-need-an-acti... > Do I need an active subscription to use Mistral Code? > At the moment, Mistral Code is a premium feature only avaible to Enterprise customers. > This means that to activate and use Mistral Code, your organization needs to have an active Enterprise agreement with Mistral AI that includes access to this tool. > Individual users within such organizations can then log in on their own and use the extension autonomously, provided they've been attributed a Mistral Code seat by their organization's administrator (see How to manage Mistral Code seats for more details).
- speerer 1y ago> Mistral Code Enterprise is a fork of Continue. All due credit to the original creators of Continue. Source: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mistralai.mistral-code https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mistrala... Link destination: https://www.continue.dev/ https://www.continue.dev/
- tensor 1y agoInteresting. So if you just configure continue with Mistral Medium 3 as the chat model and codestral as the autocomplete, you probably have exactly this. This is the setup I already use.
- speerer 1y agoIf that were the case, then the posted URL would be pure hype. I think it's more likely that they've developed something that is more bespoke than that. It's totally too hard to say though.
- tensor 1y agoKnowing the enterprise space, my guess is that the only real changes are hardcoding continue to use only Mistral, and tying it into some sort of central enterprise licensing service. Holding back some novel models just for enterprise use seems unlikely, as does developing some novel agentic capabilities within Continue. Enterprise deals are usually around compliance and security primarily. Companies want centralized billing and to be sure that their developers only use "sanctioned" AI and other tech. Who knows though with that contact us sales wall.
- ttoinou 1y agoInteresting, why do you use those models ? They feel inferior
- tensor 1y agoOriginally as an experiment in using non-US services, as my company is not a US company and the possibility of tariffs on digital services is not at all unrealistic. The exercise was really enlightening. Not to derail the conversation the TLDR was that in some areas it was easy to move off US services, while in others (github) there are almost no alternatives. I do have access to US models via Kagi to play around with and use for things Mistral doesn't work on. I've been meaning to try command a too, but haven't gotten around to it. I will say that the new mistral medium model is surprisingly good, though I've only just started using it. Codestral is definitely behind other models.
- colechristensen 1y ago>Mistral Code Enterprise is a fork of Continue. All due credit to the original creators of Continue. Here's the problem with AI company revenue, I want this to be local, Continue is open source, my company laptop is powerful enough to run a usefully sized LLM locally more or less just as fast, and there are plenty of open models available publicly (including by Mistral, latest dev related called devstral). As hardware progresses and LLM efficiency increases, I really don't think LLM programming has any future doing remote execution unless maybe as a chatbot kind of experience, but definitely not in an IDE. Putting together a good developer experience with the open-ish and free-ish things available is still an exercise in cobbling a bunch of things together, but it's going to be streamlined soon and finding a way to compete with "zero cost and local" is going to be very hard for AI businesses.
- abdullahkhalids 1y agoWhy are all these code assistants apps coming out now? Is it because it takes two years to make these apps? Or is it because LLM performance is plateauing so the way to capture more of the market is via these apps?
- mirekrusin 1y agoDo they know all this stuff (agentic coding, mcp integration etc) is available through zed + ollama for free?
- hu3 1y agoSame for VSCode which is ubiquitous and offers free Github Copilot quotas with SoTA models, for 6 months now: https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2024/12/18/free-github-copilot https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2024/12/18/free-github-c... Mistral needs to realize they don't stand a chance against AI giants that are giving out stuff for free or nearly free.
- mirekrusin 1y agoI think their selling point is self hosting - I mentioned ollama because you can self host it. You're right though that ie. copilot ie via vscode is something that most enterprises can do as they already have contracts with github/microsoft so they're fine with code flying there (because it's already there).
- mwigdahl 1y agoI think the main differentiator here is the local installability and customizability. They're clearly targeting orgs that can't or won't use the actual cutting edge agentic models on the market for security or other reasons. Those places are going to need/want to work with a full enterprise sales pipeline, do the security reviews, BAAs, etc. "Contact Us" is a dealbreaker for a lot of orgs, but for the ones that are the real intended customers here it's not a huge impediment.
- kardos 1y agoI'd like to try it, but enterprise only?
- KolmogorovComp 1y agoHow is this different than using aider-chat with mistral as the backend llm?
- helloplanets 1y agoIt's a fork of Continue, so you can basically just compare the features to Aider here: https://github.com/continuedev/continue https://github.com/continuedev/continue
- anonymousDan 1y agoWhat's the best set of vim plugins for llm coding?
- Ancapistani 1y agoI’ve been most happy with Neovim and Avante. Using it with several hosted models on OpenRouter and a couple running on my gaming rig.
- dom96 1y agoThere is so many of these at this point, is there a page anywhere that has a nice table comparing all of them with their features/pricing?
- thedudeabides5 1y agoIs it open source? Tired to fake open source companies pulling the rug once they generate goodwill.
- adrienfallou 1y agoFun comments on this page; a lot along the lines of "enterprise sales strategy is dead on arrival because I can't try it". The thing is, every random person being able to use an LLM or related app for free (or even a fixed, amount like a $20/month subscription) is basically the company behind it saying "please spend our money". That might work if you raised tons and tons of cash, but if I recall Mistral has raised ~$1B compared to OpenAI's $60B. That gives them good incentive to prioritize making money over being the hype tool that you can easily try. User-led adoption isn't the only strategy out there. As for it being a fork of Continue, they acknowledge that very much in their blog post that announced this. Sure, it probably means you could set up an equivalent yourself with Continue pointing to the right model; but that adds a lots of friction – and might not be allowed in an entreprise setting.