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Any idea of what the server platform is? Linux?

by YooLi 1y ago

ezfe 1y ago
Almost certainly
paxys 1y ago
Can't really imagine what else it would be.
- MBCook 1y ago
  Apple is known to use Linux on servers, but I could see a case for BSD being in the running. The macOS userland is based on BSD so you’d get a nice little fit there. And it’s not like some common BSD is bad at doing the job of a server. I know it can do great things. Who knows if it was ever discussed. They wouldn’t want Windows (licensing, optics, etc) and macOS isn’t tuned to be a high performance server. Linux is incredibly performant and ubiquitous and a very very safe choice.
  - cosmic_cheese 1y ago
    Another BSD that Apple used at one point was NetBSD, which is what they ran on their AirPort wireless routers prior to their discontinuation.
cosmic_cheese 1y ago
In this case probably Linux, but Apple also uses custom M-series based servers running a hardened Darwin-based OS for LLM processing of user data.
- gorbypark 1y ago
  I really really want some kind of write up on that custom m-series hardware. Not very much has even leaked out.
- saagarjha 1y ago
  I’m not even sure those have been turned on tbh
timsneath 1y ago
It runs on Linux-based infrastructure. We've updated the blog post to clarify this. Thanks!
- latchkey 1y ago
  Which Linux?
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dale_huevo 1y ago
It's well-known Apple is a big RHEL customer, including Linux on Azure, lending credence to the saying that every Mac is built upon Windows (Hyper-V). Fairly certain the iTunes store, their web store, etc. are all built upon enterprise Linux as well. And there's nothing wrong with that. Use the best tool for the job. Most car owners have never looked in the engine compartment.
- jen20 1y ago
  > including Linux on Azure Are you sure about this?
- gorbypark 1y ago
  I don’t think many azure services are Linux on hyper-v, are they? Azure (afaik) is quite heavy on bare metal Linux.
  - miffy900 1y ago
    Many of their SaaS offerings are, but many infrastructure offerings are running Windows Server underneath. Rent out any Azure VM, and regardless of guest OS, it's using Hyper-v underneath as the hypervisor.
    - gorbypark 1y ago
      Ah cool, I didn't realize that even their linux VMs are being powered by Hyper-V
  - pjmlp 1y ago
    The OS powering Azure is Windows, even if about 60% of the VMs run Linux workloads, as per official numbers. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windowsosplatform/azure-host-os-%e2%80%93-cloud-host/3709528 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windowsosplatform/a...

Any idea of what the server platform is? Linux?

by YooLi 1y ago

Any idea of what the server platform is? Linux?

ezfe 1y ago

Almost certainly

paxys 1y ago

Can't really imagine what else it would be.

MBCook 1y ago
Apple is known to use Linux on servers, but I could see a case for BSD being in the running. The macOS userland is based on BSD so you’d get a nice little fit there. And it’s not like some common BSD is bad at doing the job of a server. I know it can do great things. Who knows if it was ever discussed. They wouldn’t want Windows (licensing, optics, etc) and macOS isn’t tuned to be a high performance server. Linux is incredibly performant and ubiquitous and a very very safe choice.
- cosmic_cheese 1y ago
  Another BSD that Apple used at one point was NetBSD, which is what they ran on their AirPort wireless routers prior to their discontinuation.

cosmic_cheese 1y ago

In this case probably Linux, but Apple also uses custom M-series based servers running a hardened Darwin-based OS for LLM processing of user data.

gorbypark 1y ago
I really really want some kind of write up on that custom m-series hardware. Not very much has even leaked out.
saagarjha 1y ago
I’m not even sure those have been turned on tbh

timsneath 1y ago

It runs on Linux-based infrastructure. We've updated the blog post to clarify this. Thanks!

latchkey 1y ago
Which Linux?

deleted 1y ago

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dale_huevo 1y ago

It's well-known Apple is a big RHEL customer, including Linux on Azure, lending credence to the saying that every Mac is built upon Windows (Hyper-V). Fairly certain the iTunes store, their web store, etc. are all built upon enterprise Linux as well. And there's nothing wrong with that. Use the best tool for the job. Most car owners have never looked in the engine compartment.

jen20 1y ago
> including Linux on Azure Are you sure about this?
gorbypark 1y ago
I don’t think many azure services are Linux on hyper-v, are they? Azure (afaik) is quite heavy on bare metal Linux.
- miffy900 1y ago
  Many of their SaaS offerings are, but many infrastructure offerings are running Windows Server underneath. Rent out any Azure VM, and regardless of guest OS, it's using Hyper-v underneath as the hypervisor.
  - gorbypark 1y ago
    Ah cool, I didn't realize that even their linux VMs are being powered by Hyper-V
- pjmlp 1y ago
  The OS powering Azure is Windows, even if about 60% of the VMs run Linux workloads, as per official numbers. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windowsosplatform/azure-host-os-%e2%80%93-cloud-host/3709528 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windowsosplatform/a...