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There was a good channel to make use of those young men in the society: Army conscription, back in the good old days. Then selfish boomers took it, along with m
by anovikov 1y ago
There was a good channel to make use of those young men in the society: Army conscription, back in the good old days. Then selfish boomers took it, along with many other good things, away, because they didn't want to fight in Viet Nam. Now these people will have nothing better to do than 'lie down and rot'.
- Flemlo 1y agoI was quite happy when I was not forced into military and the generator after me was no longer forced (Germany). If that's your only idea... How about an orientation and self-care program instead?
- anovikov 1y agoWell, this is a point where two problems meet: the need to beef up armed forces (especially in Germany! that faces Russian threat and completely unreliable allies), and a generation of young men with nothing to do.
- unsnap_biceps 1y agoThe article talks about them choosing not to do anything, so it's unclear to me why you believe forcing them into a role would result in any sort of positive outcome?
- anovikov 1y agoBecause most of the time, most of the people do good things only when they are forced to.
- notepad0x90 1y agoYou solution is to give socially failing and disgruntled young men who're mad at the world, professional military training and weapons?
- lotsofpulp 1y agoWhat better way to incentivize young people to care about elections? Would US voters have reveled in invading Iraq on flimsy premises if their own kids were at risk? Also, armed services can participate in humanitarian missions along with the military training. Right now, there is no country. Everyone is doing their own thing, perfectly content letting the lower classes do the dirty work.
- notepad0x90 1y agoDon't get me wrong, I support mandatory military service, but for everyone. not just whiny people who call themselves "incels". It will solve many critical social issues we have in the US.
- lotsofpulp 1y agoYes, I guess I inferred a universal mandate.
- anovikov 1y agoAfter going through military service, they will be a lot less failing and a lot less disgruntled. Plus, they could be kept there for a very long time and when the military is very large, very experienced due to long service years, and is comprised of people with no positive life experiences and no positive expectations of civilian life - so after a short initial adaptation period, no longer longing to return to it - it can be used to do many beneficial things, such as building actual empires, squashing authoritarians worldwide, building contiguous, continent-wide spaces free for borderless trade and investment.
- const_cast 1y agoThat's what we did for all of human history. We kind of just kill men, their lives aren't very important in the grand scheme of society. The best thing a lot of men can do is die for some cause.
- jmclnx 1y agoYou should watch Full Metal Jacket :) If I understood the article, many of these people were bullied in when young. So you suggest they join the military to get more bullying ? Granted, I do not know what basic training these days is like, 40 or so years ago, depending on the service, it could have been brutal. Yes, the draft was ended but there were many reasons for that to have occurred. Some conservatives have wanted to being it back, but they never followed through because even they know there are/were many selection issues. For example: gay vs non-gay, draft women. These two items alone could cause tons of law suits. Never mind the fact kids of the rich had ways of avoiding getting selected. With all that said, I have seen military service help many kids, plus I knew a few who it really made this situation much worse. So like everything else "it depends".
- anovikov 1y agoMandatory military service is like monarchy, or democracy for that matter: good thing to keep, super easy to lose, next to impossible to get back once you lost it.