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Isn't Windows Recall opt-in?

fwip 1y ago
Yes. "To use Recall, you will need to opt-in to saving snapshots, which are images of your activity, and enroll in Windows Hello to confirm your presence so only you can access your snapshots."
- hedora 1y ago
  Oh, good. Local activities that used to be anonymous and private are now public with non-repudiation.
  - ziml77 1y ago
    What's public here?
- jajuuka 1y ago
  I understand people not liking Recall. I'm one of them. But for something that is opt in now and even if opt later can still be disabled. So changing OS's because of that seems like an overreaction.
  - mrmuagi 1y ago
    It's the straw that breaks the camel's back I think for most people. Constant nagging by the operating system for Windows products (I have enabled onedrive personally, but for some reason it installed two file explorer quick access links, and the workarounds online fail to persist reboots) -- hijacking file extensions, hijacking program aliases (I just had to remove a windows store alias in my env variables for "python" despite having it already installed months prior), the constant cat and mouse to have local account-only possible, inability to remove edge/stop being pestered about it, and now recall (which is not truely opt-in since it gets installed whether you want it or not).
  - chii 1y ago
    the crutch is that an update could silently re-enable it, in a way that you aren't notified, and it'd be too late to try disable after it captured content off your machine you didnt want captured.
elaus 1y ago
I'm not sure, but in recent years, Microsoft has made a lot of negative headlines by silently re-enabling settings after updates, so this doesn't seem like something you should trust.
- chii 1y ago
  i would imagine there to be a tool in the future to constantly check for settings like these, and re-disable it when it changes.
DrillShopper 1y ago
For now We're only a single Windows Update from silently changing that
- chii 1y ago
  It is why i disable windows update, and manually check each first, before installing it. The security vulnerabilities you fix is no longer the only threat actor these days - you have to also model the threat of microsoft, and how their updates can break your system, change it in irrevocable ways etc.
WD-42 1y ago
Does it really matter? They'll assault users with "Enable recall to access this feature, yada yada" and 99% of people will just do it. Just like every other spyware feature they provide.

fwip 1y ago

Yes. "To use Recall, you will need to opt-in to saving snapshots, which are images of your activity, and enroll in Windows Hello to confirm your presence so only you can access your snapshots."

hedora 1y ago
Oh, good. Local activities that used to be anonymous and private are now public with non-repudiation.
- ziml77 1y ago
  What's public here?
jajuuka 1y ago
I understand people not liking Recall. I'm one of them. But for something that is opt in now and even if opt later can still be disabled. So changing OS's because of that seems like an overreaction.
- mrmuagi 1y ago
  It's the straw that breaks the camel's back I think for most people. Constant nagging by the operating system for Windows products (I have enabled onedrive personally, but for some reason it installed two file explorer quick access links, and the workarounds online fail to persist reboots) -- hijacking file extensions, hijacking program aliases (I just had to remove a windows store alias in my env variables for "python" despite having it already installed months prior), the constant cat and mouse to have local account-only possible, inability to remove edge/stop being pestered about it, and now recall (which is not truely opt-in since it gets installed whether you want it or not).
- chii 1y ago
  the crutch is that an update could silently re-enable it, in a way that you aren't notified, and it'd be too late to try disable after it captured content off your machine you didnt want captured.

elaus 1y ago

I'm not sure, but in recent years, Microsoft has made a lot of negative headlines by silently re-enabling settings after updates, so this doesn't seem like something you should trust.

chii 1y ago
i would imagine there to be a tool in the future to constantly check for settings like these, and re-disable it when it changes.

DrillShopper 1y ago

For now We're only a single Windows Update from silently changing that

chii 1y ago
It is why i disable windows update, and manually check each first, before installing it. The security vulnerabilities you fix is no longer the only threat actor these days - you have to also model the threat of microsoft, and how their updates can break your system, change it in irrevocable ways etc.

WD-42 1y ago

Does it really matter? They'll assault users with "Enable recall to access this feature, yada yada" and 99% of people will just do it. Just like every other spyware feature they provide.