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damnitbuilds 1y ago
"If it's not ideologically aligned it won't get funded." As I show elsewhere in this thread, the previous administration forced applicants to include irrelevant DEI language in grant applications.
- freejazz 1y ago
  I think if Trump just wanted people to swear loyalty statements instead of cutting all the funding, shutting all these departments, cancelling research, etc., they'd be unhappy but still fine with the fact that the research goes on...
- kelnos 1y ago
  If you really think that's the same thing, I'm not sure what to tell you. Your ability to compare situations and evaluate consequences is completely broken.
  - damnitbuilds 1y ago
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- VerminOctopus1 1y ago
  Was it the Biden administration doing this? Are you sure this wasn’t happening at the university or state level?
  - damnitbuilds 1y ago
    The NSF did it.
kbelder 1y ago
That's not any different than it has been.
- hackyhacky 1y ago
  > That's not any different than it has been. Good point. Exactly like when the Biden administration decided to cancel all grants to Harvard University because they didn't allow a government takeover of the university. Oh, wait, that didn't happen.
  - fallingknife 1y ago
    My dad is a university researcher. During the Biden administration he was forced to add completely unscientific DEI language to his grants if he wanted to get them funded. You just don't know about it because the media you watch doesn't report on that because they support it. So yeah, the whole Harvard thing is more of the same.
    - hackyhacky 1y ago
      I work in academia. I don't need to rely on media to know about submitting grants. Everything you just said is a lie. I'm sorry that your dad is not a reliable source of information; maybe he has his own biases. Even if what you are saying were true, it does not compare to the grand level of academic extortion alluded to in my parent comment.
      - UncleOxidant 1y ago
        > I'm sorry that your dad is not a reliable source of information; maybe he has his own biases. Or maybe his dad isn't even a "university researcher"?
    - nxobject 1y ago
      Having been awarded a grant from DMS for an undergrad training program – the "broader impacts statement" was more obnoxious, and forced. There are other issues that affect our ability to do good science, and the "broadening participation" mandate was peanuts compared to the other indignities of grantwriting. Politely speaking, I'm not sure what crowd you're speaking for.

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"If it's not ideologically aligned it won't get funded." As I show elsewhere in this thread, the previous administration forced applicants to include irrelevant DEI language in grant applications.

freejazz 1y ago
I think if Trump just wanted people to swear loyalty statements instead of cutting all the funding, shutting all these departments, cancelling research, etc., they'd be unhappy but still fine with the fact that the research goes on...
kelnos 1y ago
If you really think that's the same thing, I'm not sure what to tell you. Your ability to compare situations and evaluate consequences is completely broken.
- damnitbuilds 1y ago
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VerminOctopus1 1y ago
Was it the Biden administration doing this? Are you sure this wasn’t happening at the university or state level?
- damnitbuilds 1y ago
  The NSF did it.

kbelder 1y ago

That's not any different than it has been.

hackyhacky 1y ago
> That's not any different than it has been. Good point. Exactly like when the Biden administration decided to cancel all grants to Harvard University because they didn't allow a government takeover of the university. Oh, wait, that didn't happen.
- fallingknife 1y ago
  My dad is a university researcher. During the Biden administration he was forced to add completely unscientific DEI language to his grants if he wanted to get them funded. You just don't know about it because the media you watch doesn't report on that because they support it. So yeah, the whole Harvard thing is more of the same.
  - hackyhacky 1y ago
    I work in academia. I don't need to rely on media to know about submitting grants. Everything you just said is a lie. I'm sorry that your dad is not a reliable source of information; maybe he has his own biases. Even if what you are saying were true, it does not compare to the grand level of academic extortion alluded to in my parent comment.
    - UncleOxidant 1y ago
      > I'm sorry that your dad is not a reliable source of information; maybe he has his own biases. Or maybe his dad isn't even a "university researcher"?
  - nxobject 1y ago
    Having been awarded a grant from DMS for an undergrad training program – the "broader impacts statement" was more obnoxious, and forced. There are other issues that affect our ability to do good science, and the "broadening participation" mandate was peanuts compared to the other indignities of grantwriting. Politely speaking, I'm not sure what crowd you're speaking for.