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The likely outcome is that Apple will reduce the 30% to something at least marginally competitive with alternative payment systems.

isodev 1y ago
The entire “store” model needs to go away. Phones are computers now, just let people download and install whatever they want or need.
- burnte 1y ago
  Apple will never do this voluntarily.
- threeseed 1y ago
  > Phones are computers now No one but irrelevant nerds think this. And the market has demonstrated this time and time again. Most people think of phones as being console-like entertainment devices. And aren't interested in scams, malware, virus checkers etc that are needed in a free for all model.
  - shakna 1y ago
    Malware and virus protection apps are already among the most installed across both Android and iOS.
    - threeseed 1y ago
      At least here in Australia. Neither are in the top 50 for either Android or iOS. And on iOS there are no virus protection apps, period.
      - shakna 1y ago
        Here in Australia, Samsung Device Care is in the top 50. [0] In fact, its more often installed than Netflix. [0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.lool https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.an... > And on iOS there are no virus protection apps, period. iOS has Avast, Avira, Lookout, etc. There are many, many virus protection apps on iOS.
    - pjc50 1y ago
      .. are any of those for iOS non-fradulent?
- digianarchist 1y ago
  I don't believe this can be done whilst maintaining a strong sandbox.
  - postalrat 1y ago
    What's in these apps that a decent web browser can't do?
    - digianarchist 1y ago
      In a lot of cases nothing but native experience still reigns supreme.
madeofpalk 1y ago
Many companies would never use Apple's IAP regardless of the cost because companies want a direct relationship with their user for things like refunds and trials and other stuff.
- crooked-v 1y ago
  My immediate interpretation of "direct relationship" is one part "we want your email to send you marketing spam" and one part "we want to add as much friction as possible to cancellations".

isodev 1y ago

The entire “store” model needs to go away. Phones are computers now, just let people download and install whatever they want or need.

burnte 1y ago
Apple will never do this voluntarily.
threeseed 1y ago
> Phones are computers now No one but irrelevant nerds think this. And the market has demonstrated this time and time again. Most people think of phones as being console-like entertainment devices. And aren't interested in scams, malware, virus checkers etc that are needed in a free for all model.
- shakna 1y ago
  Malware and virus protection apps are already among the most installed across both Android and iOS.
  - threeseed 1y ago
    At least here in Australia. Neither are in the top 50 for either Android or iOS. And on iOS there are no virus protection apps, period.
    - shakna 1y ago
      Here in Australia, Samsung Device Care is in the top 50. [0] In fact, its more often installed than Netflix. [0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.lool https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.an... > And on iOS there are no virus protection apps, period. iOS has Avast, Avira, Lookout, etc. There are many, many virus protection apps on iOS.
  - pjc50 1y ago
    .. are any of those for iOS non-fradulent?
digianarchist 1y ago
I don't believe this can be done whilst maintaining a strong sandbox.
- postalrat 1y ago
  What's in these apps that a decent web browser can't do?
  - digianarchist 1y ago
    In a lot of cases nothing but native experience still reigns supreme.

madeofpalk 1y ago

Many companies would never use Apple's IAP regardless of the cost because companies want a direct relationship with their user for things like refunds and trials and other stuff.

crooked-v 1y ago
My immediate interpretation of "direct relationship" is one part "we want your email to send you marketing spam" and one part "we want to add as much friction as possible to cancellations".