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I have already vibe-coded countless number of scripts and two side projects that were on my "list" for years, these projects would have never seen the light of

by yoda97 1y ago

I have already vibe-coded countless number of scripts and two side projects that were on my "list" for years, these projects would have never seen the light of day if not for Cursor. That's the whole point.

skydhash 1y ago
Is it. For small scripts like these you can get far with basic search and sources like docs/github/SO. Maybe cursor is more “fun”, “engaging”, and the like, but it’s not like it was a difficult job before.
- winrid 1y ago
  It is, takes much less energy.
- ketzo 1y ago
  Biking isn’t difficult, but you’ll still travel more with a car.
  - xigoi 1y ago
    Now imagine if your car didn’t have a steering wheel or pedals, but instead you had to explain to it where to go and it would misunderstand you 60% of the time.
    - winrid 1y ago
      I would say Claude misunderstands about 10% of the time once you know how to prompt it.
  - skydhash 1y ago
    Only when the road permits it for that type of car. And if it’s a common road, it’s better economically to build a a train (framework, library) than to use a car (code generation). Then you could use a bycicle (short burst of code) for the parts that matter.
- hnuser123456 1y ago
  If you could throw your endless todo list of side projects at an LLM, and can see at least some of them implemented overnight effortlessly, why not? You can still take credit because you had the idea in the first place and went through the effort to write it down and describe it well enough to be achievable. It's definitely more fun especially if you have limited hobby coding time.
  - homebrewer 1y ago
    If you're fine with running them blindly and having one of those scripts recursively remove your home directory, then sure. Otherwise it's very much not a zero effort affair. More like overseeing an overconfident overenthusiastic amphetamine-doped junior developer (or running his output blindly and hoping for the best). I really do feel like we're living in completely separate worlds, so many people are very enthusiastic about LLMs, and every time I try them, they leave me completely disappointed.
hajile 1y ago
The fact that they could be "vibe coded" means that they (or something similar) probably already existed, but you just didn't know they did.
- davely 1y ago
  But the amount of time saved because one could vibe code it rather than search through Google’s terrible results is immense and a benefit in and of itself.
  - skydhash 1y ago
    Maybe. But anytime I take on the task to automate something, it was a nice opportunity to check how others do it, what other things the program can accomplish. The decision to automate is already done, no need to rush through it.
  - deleted 1y ago
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- dingnuts 1y ago
  IDK, there are a lot of little chores that I find needing done that previously would have been ten minutes of research and cli fiddling that are a prompt and copy paste now. It doesn't feel that different but it is a little faster
  - hajile 1y ago
    If you don't understand what the copy/paste is actually doing, you shouldn't be script-kiddying it in your project. If you do understand, then the AI is just quickly writing what you already intended. If you are having to understand something you didn't understand, it's probably taking a bunch of time to read and verify what the script does. This can be a good learning experience and reveal unknown unknowns, but probably isn't a massive speedup.
    - johnfn 1y ago

by yoda97 1y ago

skydhash 1y ago

Is it. For small scripts like these you can get far with basic search and sources like docs/github/SO. Maybe cursor is more “fun”, “engaging”, and the like, but it’s not like it was a difficult job before.

winrid 1y ago
It is, takes much less energy.
ketzo 1y ago
Biking isn’t difficult, but you’ll still travel more with a car.
- xigoi 1y ago
  Now imagine if your car didn’t have a steering wheel or pedals, but instead you had to explain to it where to go and it would misunderstand you 60% of the time.
  - winrid 1y ago
    I would say Claude misunderstands about 10% of the time once you know how to prompt it.
- skydhash 1y ago
  Only when the road permits it for that type of car. And if it’s a common road, it’s better economically to build a a train (framework, library) than to use a car (code generation). Then you could use a bycicle (short burst of code) for the parts that matter.
hnuser123456 1y ago
If you could throw your endless todo list of side projects at an LLM, and can see at least some of them implemented overnight effortlessly, why not? You can still take credit because you had the idea in the first place and went through the effort to write it down and describe it well enough to be achievable. It's definitely more fun especially if you have limited hobby coding time.
- homebrewer 1y ago
  If you're fine with running them blindly and having one of those scripts recursively remove your home directory, then sure. Otherwise it's very much not a zero effort affair. More like overseeing an overconfident overenthusiastic amphetamine-doped junior developer (or running his output blindly and hoping for the best). I really do feel like we're living in completely separate worlds, so many people are very enthusiastic about LLMs, and every time I try them, they leave me completely disappointed.

hajile 1y ago

The fact that they could be "vibe coded" means that they (or something similar) probably already existed, but you just didn't know they did.

davely 1y ago
But the amount of time saved because one could vibe code it rather than search through Google’s terrible results is immense and a benefit in and of itself.
- skydhash 1y ago
  Maybe. But anytime I take on the task to automate something, it was a nice opportunity to check how others do it, what other things the program can accomplish. The decision to automate is already done, no need to rush through it.
- deleted 1y ago
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dingnuts 1y ago
IDK, there are a lot of little chores that I find needing done that previously would have been ten minutes of research and cli fiddling that are a prompt and copy paste now. It doesn't feel that different but it is a little faster
- hajile 1y ago
  If you don't understand what the copy/paste is actually doing, you shouldn't be script-kiddying it in your project. If you do understand, then the AI is just quickly writing what you already intended. If you are having to understand something you didn't understand, it's probably taking a bunch of time to read and verify what the script does. This can be a good learning experience and reveal unknown unknowns, but probably isn't a massive speedup.
  - johnfn 1y ago