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Meta AI App built with Llama 4
- Roritharr 1y agoInteresting that they tie the glasses so into this new app, while all AI functionality of the glasses still being disabled in the EU.
- arisAlexis 1y agoyes I feel cheated for buying those glasses that are essentially earbuds in eu
- ulfw 1y agoShould generally not buy anything meta. Their AI doesn't work in my country and honestly I don't feel left out. Whatever
- reginald78 1y agoEven in the US you run the risk of having your hardware soft bricked by having your linked Meta account banned for some vague infraction which is probably just cover for not exposing yourself sufficiently to Meta.
- _fat_santa 1y agoMeta has terrible "separation of concerns" within their apps. I just downloaded Messenger the other day and realized that they now also show you your feed within messenger. Why?? If i wanted to see my feed I would have downloaded the Facebook app. Same with WhatsApp and Instagram trying to cram down AI. My theory is you have these app "fiefdoms" that are run by different product managers and all of them are trying to steal users from the other product to show that their product is driving growth. So you end up with 10 apps that implement 90% of the same features.
- reverendsteveii 1y agoit's all about getting you into the endless feed of content. that's where their money lives, and that's where they want you to be.
- Byamarro 1y agoProbably there are many people like me - I use messenger and not the Facebook. But they REALLY want ppl like me to use the Facebook.
- toomuchtodo 1y agoZuckerberg suggested wiping everyone's Facebook friends - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43694861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43694861 - April 2025 (no comments) Mark Zuckerberg suggested wiping everyone’s Facebook friends and making users start again to boost the platform’s relevance - https://fortune.com/2025/04/15/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-instagram-whatsapp-ftc-antitrust-case/ https://fortune.com/2025/04/15/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-inst... | https://archive.today/01pLO https://archive.today/01pLO
- frizlab 1y agoThe lowkey makes sense. It’s more or less what they did with “close friends” on instagram, no?
- atonse 1y agoHe'd suggest doing that more than just the blindingly obvious thing of just allowing us to turn off the algorithm and only get content from friends? What a tool.
- phyrex 1y agoThat's already a thing: https://about.fb.com/news/2025/03/bringing-magic-of-friends-back-to-facebook/ https://about.fb.com/news/2025/03/bringing-magic-of-friends-...
- beAbU 1y agoDoes this mean they'll remove the meta ai stuff from whatsapp?
- cruzcampo 1y agoHeh, no. Everything is AI now. We've spent so much money on this junk, you ungrateful users better start using it!
- lurk2 1y agoThey added it onto mine about a month ago. It disappeared for a couple of weeks and showed up again a few days ago. The search bar now says: “Ask Meta AI or Search,” which I’m sure means every search you make gets sent to their servers.
- siva7 1y agoIn your phantasy maybe.
- cruzcampo 1y agoWhy would I want my AI App to be by the privacy nightmare, cambridge analytica people? AI is becoming more and more of a commodity. What does the FB one offer to make up for its terrible reputation?
- jsheard 1y ago> AI is becoming more and more of a commodity Ironically in large part due to Meta releasing their models. For now at least, we'll see how long their commitment to open weights lasts when the time comes to actually justify the tens of billions they're spending on all this.
- remon 1y agoImagine still using Meta products in 2025.
- rzz3 1y agoI agree with you apart from WhatsApp. I automatically know you’re from America if you don’t use WhatsApp.
- pmlnr 1y agoThis. Never thought that once we had Skype we'll still not solve video calls cross-platform on every bloody device by 2025, including, but not limited to, linux, TVs, Android boxes, Chromecast with Google TV, and so on. I really want to get off Whatsapp, but everyone simply refuses to do so out of simplicity, lazyness, and ignorance. Signal is the easy and obvious alternative. XMPP/Matrix are different paths that also work (and both rely on TURN/STUN, like everything), but that requires someone running those servers in your vicinity of friends.
- lurk2 1y agoIt’s not particularly popular in most of the Anglosphere.
- tdhz77 1y agoI own the meta glasses. I enjoy them. Last night, I asked meta to look at the menu and calculate the best meal by price. It calculated that the protein in the chicken Marsala was the best deal for the price. I then asked it to look at the wine menu and tell me a good dry wine that wouldn’t be too expensive. The wine list was over 100 wines and the answer retuned in seconds. I enjoyed the meal and the wine. I will continue to use the glasses in 2025 as I’m finding creative ways to use them.
- beau 1y agoWeb: https://meta.ai/ https://meta.ai/ iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/meta-ai/id1558240027 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/meta-ai/id1558240027 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.stella&hl=en_CA https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.s...
- ulfw 1y agoSuch weird Apps. Typical Meta. The iOS app screenshots are all about Wayfarer AR glasses. Nothing about Meta.AI.
- kivlad 1y agoThey rebranded the app designed exclusively for that (Meta View) and added the chat features.
- ulfw 1y agoYea but why? Honest question. It has a totally different purpose
- tacker2000 1y agoUsers that have the old app will get the new updated one installed. Also probably for App Store SEO/rankings. Meta is known for scummy behaviour, as we all know…
- jjordan 1y agoThe app id (com.facebook.stella) was for an app called Meta View. It looks like they just rebranded an app that was previously used for Smart glasses and is now using it as their official AI app. Why rebrand rather than create a new app? Who knows. Maybe to demonstrate a high(ish) download count at launch, maybe for app/play store credibility.
- shaneos 1y agoCongrats Beau!
- pmlnr 1y agoGreat, now, can you get it the f* out of Whatsapp, please?
- arisAlexis 1y agowho is using Llama 4 ?
- davidw 1y agoI'll be curious to see if this has legs.
- WhitneyLand 1y agoWho is this app adding value for? How is it differentiated? The models are not sota, the feature set is no stronger than comparable apps, the privacy situation is as expected. Not seeing it.
- Adrig 1y agoThis is about strengthening their own ecosystem (glasses, whatsapp), not attracting power users from competitors
- vineyardmike 1y agoTons of people use Metas existing products. Like an astonishing amount of people, despite the attitude of the typical HN crowd. Many of those people aren’t particularly tech savvy, and aren’t hip to the latest technology. By embedding “Meta AI” into each app, they’re reaching an audience far greater than can be reached by most non-Google AI products. Once they get hooked on using Meta AI (because it was there, and they didn’t know to search for others), they’re reaching may want a dedicated app.
- ToucanLoucan 1y agoI talk and work with plenty of non-tech-savvy people. They don't give a flying fuck about Meta AI. The HN crowd is indeed overly dismissive of Meta and their reach across numerous markets, and my experience is not the end-all-be-all of data collection of course. But I have yet to see any casual users of anything who give a ghost of a shit about AI. Like I'm not even saying they're anti-AI or skeptics or whatever, I'm saying: any time in the last like 2 years when some product or another has had some damn AI or another integrated into it: reactions range from indifference to irritation. Most I've seen is people see it, wonder what it is, ask it a few things, and then get bored with it and go back to what they were doing.
- energy123 1y agoYou don't want an automated em-dash inserter?
- mirekrusin 1y ago
- greybox 1y agoI don't understand why. Why would I want a Facebook AI assistant? I dont understand why its in messenger and WhatsApp either?
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- laweijfmvo 1y agoFacebook doesn't, Meta does. Social media is dead, per Zuckerberg, didn't you hear?
- jajko 1y agoWhy the fuck they had to infest the only reasonable product (they bought) - whatsapp. Outside of US its more used than sms or any other chat, including apple ones even on apple platform. No other meta app has any reason to exist on the phone of any reasonable user (I know most aren't, but this is HN and not army of social network addicts wasting their life online). I guess it was to be expected, but I hate meta products with passion and removed them from phone many years ago (when they were leeching battery hard even when not used), cancerous leech of humanity for the goal of getting fer people ridiculously rich and richer.
- sharkjacobs 1y agoIt's astonishing how much community goodwill and excitement there was for llama when it first came out, and how much it has plummeted since then. Partly the sheen has worn off, and of course there are other interesting "open source" llm offerings now, but I don't think it can be overstated how much Meta is just a toxic brand. Threads had a very similar arc.
- freedomben 1y agofwiw this really doesn't mesh with my experience. The goodwill and excitement is still there for Llama, though diluted by the abundance of model options out there. That said, my lense does tilt heavily towards self hosting where the community is probably overall much more appreciative and excited about Meta's AI
- threecheese 1y agoWRT Llama, IMO it’s only because they couldn’t infect a model with ad tracking that it overcame the tarnish. As long as I don’t need to run their conventional software to use it, I consider it safe. I’m on the fence about their API product( technically they could tie it to one’s identity (as OpenAI could) but I’d imagine that would be less valuable given they can’t know which human is really behind it.
- jampekka 1y agoLlama 4 license probably needs more than one set of scary quotes around """open source""". The Chinese are the real driver of open source/open weights models now. China's brand is overtaking Meta's, and US (corporations) in general. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43676254 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43676254
- alex1138 1y agoThreads had "Oh my god, so many people are using it" Beyond the fact it's possible that they were counting Instagram users in those metrics, yeah, people are going to sign up to try the new thing But it's what you came to expect from Zuckerberg, absolutely no way to control the feed at all, poor excuse for federation
- asdev 1y agoClassic Meta playbook, nothing innovative to build so let's just release a copy of ChatGPT
- sheepscreek 1y agoBEWARE! On iOS, the app will have access to a five-page-long list of data, including your browsing history, purchase history, phone number, physical address, precise location, photos, videos, and more. I almost wish they’d stop f’ing around with advertising and make it a paid subscription app. I might even subscribe to it then (like I have with SuperGrok and ChatGPT Plus). Maybe their audience is people who can’t be bothered or can’t afford it.
- tantalor 1y agoBeware? Why? The app is marketed as providing personalized experience. How is it supposed to do that if it doesn't know anything about you?
- fourside 1y agoBecause Meta have repeatedly shown themselves to not be good stewards of this type of data in the past.
- ASalazarMX 1y agoIf you already have Facebook/Messenger in your phone, and haven't bothered to change default permissions, I guess Meta AI will only add your voice, image, and textual interactions to your already thick dossier. Not much more harm done. Might as well but the Ray-Ban Meta AI Glasses and embrace the exposure already.
- madeofpalk 1y agoiOS apps cannot access your Safari browsing history. I'm not even sure what "purchase history" actually means? They can't access photos and videos without explicitly granting permission. This surely would just refer to the massive trove of data Facebook has already gathered about you.
- pornel 1y agoMost likely it does what their other apps do: opens URLs in an in-app "browser" WebView, which is then injected with a ton of trackers that have unlimited access to everything you browse in their app. iOS apps are allowed to add arbitrary JavaScript to any page on any domain, even HTTPS, as long as it's a WebView and not the standalone Safari app.
- bilekas 1y agoThey added some AI slip chat to their WhatsApp client that seems to have context info about my chats and I can't opt out of that. It's also got a permanent icon hovering at the bottom right which I tend to hit while scrolling through contacts. They've become the parody of how to do AI tools badly. It's disgusting.
- oulipo 1y agoMeta projects are increasingly lame, and Yann Lecun hasn't had a single useful idea for years now
- recursive4 1y agoThis might be interesting if it pulled data from Meta properties (e.g. the Instagram accounts I am following) in order to personally contextualize its responses.
- bhl 1y agoI'm surprised the chatbot on Instagram doesn't already have that. Giving an LLM access to a highly personalized search tool (the scroll algorithm) would make asking for recommendations so much better.
- nthingtohide 1y agoMeta can turn this App into a sort of my assistant. I can dump any link into it. And since those links form the basis of my worldview helping the assistant understand me better. Currently only Google has a monopoly on such a possible futuristic assistant.
- lvl155 1y agoNo thanks. I am not using anything Zuck made with clear intent of screwing it up down the road.
- jajko 1y ago"People just submitted it. I don't know why. They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks."
- markdog12 1y agoWhy do the AI web apps not have voice mode?
- LeoPanthera 1y agoThis is the same model that Meta declared was "too liberal" and had to specifically fine tune it with align with its Republican masters? No thanks. https://gizmodo.com/meta-says-its-latest-ai-model-is-less-woke-more-like-elons-grok-2000587772 https://gizmodo.com/meta-says-its-latest-ai-model-is-less-wo...
- moshegramovsky 1y agoSame. Him and Meta really disgust me.
- simonw 1y agoYou can absolutely get the voice in the iOS app to John Cena and then tell it to pretend to be Peacemaker from the TV show and have a chat about how great Eagly is.