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Pretty distressing at how there’s basically zero pushback from the American elites at the destruction of all strategic American advantages and only ineffective
by bananapub 2y ago
Pretty distressing at how there’s basically zero pushback from the American elites at the destruction of all strategic American advantages and only ineffective pushback from the public.
There will be entire genres of books written about how America just said “eh” to being gutted by a bunch of rich psychopaths.
- jajko 2y agoWith Brexit Brits got exactly what was promised, they just didn't realize what that promise actually meant and very few are happy about it these days. This is next level of "I'll deliver anyway, I know what you wanted" while fucking it up spectacularly. If only all of our pensions wouldn't be now siphoned to those few with advanced government access I would be laughing a bit more.
- mike_hearn 2y agoThey did not get what was promised. They were promised large reductions in immigration, instead the Johnson government raised immigration levels to never before seen heights. Brexit enabled them to have lowered it to whatever level they wanted, but the Conservatives preferred to self destruct than compromise with the voters on mass immigration.
- eli_gottlieb 2y agoSomeone's gotta wipe Grandpa's ass.
- iknowstuff 2y agoBidets
- hedora 2y agoThe market’s down what, 10-20%? The dollar’s down 10%. 20-30% of average 401k’s have already been siphoned, and we haven’t even seen the impact of the tariffs or elimination of social security yet.
- KerrAvon 2y agoCould be even worse even quicker. The big box CEOs just told Trump that we're two weeks from empty store shelves for at least some things. Welcome to the USSR, don't forget to tithe to the Republican party on your way to the toilet paper line.
- tonetegeatinst 2y agoLet's be clear, most Americans like paycheck to paycheck and can't afford losing a job or being arrested for saying antigoverment stuff
- staunton 2y agoThe starving peasants in <insert any grassroots regime change, peaceful and/or violent> could afford it, right?
- warkdarrior 2y agoThe trick is to keep the poor people poor, but not too poor. Nothing left to lose and all that...
- nickff 2y agoOr else they might rebel like the North Koreans, Cubans, and Eritreans do?
- jmclnx 2y agoLets hope we get to the place were these books will be written. Books are already being banned in the US and some retailers are pulling these books from their selves.
- 9283409232 2y agoBooks will be written but not by the Americans much like the fall of Rome wasn't covered by the Romans.
- hodgesrm 2y agoIf you mean the fall of the Roman Republic, that and the succeeding decadence of the Empire was covered in detail by Roman sources. The Annals of Tacitus are just one of many examples. [0] It's how we know what happened. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annals_(Tacitus) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annals_(Tacitus)
- jacobsenscott 2y agoWell, this is want American Elites want - so they can buy up the pieces at a discount.
- AnimalMuppet 2y agoI keep hearing this. But for that to work, the elites have to have a bunch of money available, that didn't lose value when everything fell apart. Well, where are they parking that money right now, that won't lose value when everything else does?
- timschmidt 2y agoSwitzerland, Malta, the Cayman Islands, all the traditional tax havens I'd assume.
- science4sail 2y agoTax havens aren't immune to economic disaster though. If the US dollar becomes worthless, then it doesn't matter how many dollars you have in your offshore bank account. Ditto if you're storing wealth as equities or bonds. Real estate value will collapse if tenants can't pay rent or if the local government decides to confiscate land. I suppose that you could keep gold or bitcoin wallets in a vault, but then it actually belongs to the vault guards, not to you. Basically you need a collapse that's bad enough to shrink asset prices but not bad enough to break the social contact.
- rchaud 2y agoAmerican elites push back when their tax shelters and uninsured deposits (see Silicon Valley Bank collapse) are at risk. That's their line in the sand.
- pyuser583 2y agoThe US government has been systematically destroying all the tax shelters. Switzerland, Cayman Islands, etc now report to the IRS.
- mikeyouse 2y agoWe need a TRC from the IRS to accept funds from some customers… we applied for that in January for 2025 - the 6/8 week estimate is now doubled.. the phone number that used to dump you into a queue to be answered in an hour is disconnected now. The IRS is not going to be chasing down non-compliant companies in the near future.
- jimbokun 2y agoTwo failed impeachment attempts, countless lawsuits, and now the Supreme Court has more or less inoculated Trump from any further prosecution attempts. The checks and balances have all been exhausted. There are no bullets left in the gun.
- square_usual 2y agoAnd the one remaining possible check - a literal Supreme Court order - has also been ignored.
- soared 2y agoI mean, there is one more check, one more not so proverbial bullet in a gun.
- nandomrumber 2y ago[flagged]
- pixelpoet 2y agoIf this isn't the tyrannical government (disappearing people, destroying public services even the Dept of Education, deliberately dismantling checks and balances, ...) the 2A was specifically created for, then what would be? And if the 2A isn't about countering tyrannical government, what IS it for?
- brianmurphy 2y agoTrump was elected on deporting illegals, closing the Dept of Education, removing men from women's sports and to stop sending money overseas. The insular HN community doesn't understand this is what the majority of American voters want. Many of us are very happy with the direction things have been moving.
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- ryandrake 2y agoIt's been truly amazing how ineffective and half-assed the opposition to this administration has been. I mean, in Trump's recent joint address to Congress, a handful of D's in Congress held up little signs in protest. Little signs! They might as well have shrugged and not done anything. These are the people the other side elected to fight this madness, and they're sitting there on their asses holding up little signs and making frowny faces. If that's all the opposition feels they are capable of doing, they might as well all just resign.
- yodsanklai 2y agoI find it very disappointing that there aren't more public figures speaking on what's happening and calling out Trump's BS and lies. My guess, they are scared of Trump, but also Trump is still popular so they don't want to take a side. The saddest thing is that American people voted for that guy, and that check and balances don't seem to work. So it's not a Trump issue, it's a US problem.
- refurb 2y agoWhat makes you think the elites aren’t pushing back? Because they aren’t being public about it? “If it’s not on the internet it didn’t happen”? I know for a fact the CEO of my Fortune 100 company has talked with the administration to share their views on the potential impact. No press release, no public statement. Just a visit to the White House. If anything, I’d suggest the public silence indicates the lites are either on board or feel their concerns will be addressed.
- watwut 2y agoTrying to get favors for own company or industry is not the same as fighting the administration. That is just dping what Trump loves when you do.
- refurb 2y ago> Trying to get favors for own company or industry is not the same as fighting the administration. Why would a company "fight the administration"? That sounds like a recipe for bankruptcy.
- watwut 2y agoTake it to the person who claimed their CEO is doing that fight. My argument was that their CEO is not fighting anything. > Why would a company "fight the administration"? That sounds like a recipe for bankruptcy. Just for the record, I agree that this administration is abusing power right and left. And also that it reflects very badly on those who support it or defend it.
- refurb 2y agoI think you’re all over the place and unfocused on the matter at hand. The original comment was that CEOs are pushing back. It’s just not done in the public sphere. At least at my company, the CEO is satisfied the administration understands their concerns.